Stop Whining!!!

[Daseal]

Incentive based contracts are hard to sell, Gmanc. What about coaches who bench players so they don't reach an incentive to save money. Or what if all the players hit incentives and send you over the cap? Too many bad things can happen if the whole team has incentive laced contracts.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Yeah. Like give a good signing bonus to make sure they get those spinners they want for their SUVs and then make them EARN their checks.

[joethiesmanfan]

Don't hate the player hate the game.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

LOL Nice one...

[TheMalcolmConnection]

When it comes to where people are making millions and millions that is a VERY different story. When you have millions, WORLDS of opportunity are opened up for you. That's completely different from making $70,000. When you are making millions, you are living a life of luxury.

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

When it comes to where people are making millions and millions that is a VERY different story. When you have millions, WORLDS of opportunity are opened up for you. That's completely different from making $70,000. When you are making millions, you are living a life of luxury.

Malcolm-
If you were making your boss millions, would not expect to be properly compensated? Bonus, raise..whatever. Or would sit there and accept getting ripped off?

[Defensewins]

LavarTaylor21:
I liked your opening statement. There has been way too much whining about Sean Taylor. I am not sure if you were a member of this site when we drafted him, but the members that wanted Kellen Winslow II were bitching up a storm just like some are doing regarding QB Campbell. There was a thread last year calling Taylor an idiot, moron, etc.
What irks me most about this whole situation is the NFL (by their own laws) makes these work outs VOLUNTARY! However if you decide not go...you get thrown under the bus by the fans, media and coaches. Call them what they really are...MANDATORY!

[TheMalcolmConnection]

If I'M making millions, I'd enjoy the fact that I am living at a level most people never dream of. That might be because I could DEAL with making a million or two. I wouldn't care what other people around me were making.

[Defensewins]

One major problem with this comparison, in the NFL you re one play, one injury away from instant retirement.
While at our jobs, if we do not do something stupid to get fired, we can keep our jobs until we are 60 or more.
So the NFL players need to get as much as they can in their very short careers.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

I'd agree with that if they made salaries of $100k or less a season. They are making MILLIONS of dollars. If they want a fat signing bonus, that's fine. That can set them up for life whether they get hurt or not. OK, so you sign a contract with a $4 milllion signing bonus. You get hurt first game of the season, and can never play again.

Here's an idea: Sell your mansion, sell your Hummers and invest that $4 million you made into high quality investments and you'll continue to make money. OR maybe use the degree that you hopefully earned in school to get a job.

[Grayacre]

This seems like a pretty simple matter. Taylor sat down with the Redskins management. Both sides presumably had highly paid lawyers and advisers there. They worked out a deal. What earthshaking, unforeseeable event has happened in the relatively short time since that meeting that justifies Taylor's demand for more money?

[LavarTaylor21]

Every year all of the Miami players go and work out at UM. They have been doing it for years and they generally tend to be some of the better players in the NFL. There will be plenty of time during mini camps and regular camp for them to work out with the team. The NFL is really high on the talent that comes out of Miami every year so why do they have a problem if those players want to keep doing the same things every year that have made them so successful. Do you really think that the offseason workouts are going to be the reason Patrick Ramsey cant connect with Santana Moss in the regular season. I don't think so. If training down in Miami will make Sean and Santana better, I am all for it!!! They will be here when camp starts and they will probably be in better shape than anyone else.

[RedskinsJunkie]

Originally Posted by LavarTaylor21

Every year all of the Miami players go and work out at UM. They have been doing it for years and they generally tend to be some of the better players in the NFL. There will be plenty of time during mini camps and regular camp for them to work out with the team. The NFL is really high on the talent that comes out of Miami every year so why do they have a problem if those players want to keep doing the same things every year that have made them so successful. Do you really think that the offseason workouts are going to be the reason Patrick Ramsey cant connect with Santana Moss in the regular season. I don't think so. If training down in Miami will make Sean and Santana better, I am all for it!!! They will be here when camp starts and they will probably be in better shape than anyone else.

Great points here, but they are redskins now not Hurricanes, I couldn't imagine that happening back in Gibbs first stint you know? I know the game has changed, but I like what Gibbs is trying to instill in these players through these "Voluntary" workouts. We need the CHEMISTRY!!!

[RedskinsJunkie]

Taylor has to at least answer his phone when Gibbs calls. I don't care where he is working out but I would like to see Moss in there getting his timing down with Ramsey. He is going to get a new contract because the Skins don't want to have given up Coles and not get something in return so that shouldn't be the issue. What is the issue is he isn't a number 1 WR and wants to be paid like one...

[TheMalcolmConnection]

I'm OK with them training in Miami, I'd prefer to have them with the rest of the team. What I DO have a problem with, is them asking for contracts when neither deserves a new one.