Rocky Returns

[12thMan]

I think it's still Riley's job, this gives us more depth with a player that already knows the system. Guess the market wasn't all that great for Rocky afterall.

[CultBrennan59]

I won't be surprised if Rocky was cut by the end of preseason. This is just to push Riley. Any word on how the Tatupu visit went yesterday?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

I won't be surprised if Rocky was cut by the end of preseason. This is just to push Riley. Any word on how the Tatupu visit went yesterday?

I guess it's actually happening this morning

[sportscurmudgeon]

Maybe one of the folks here who has retained tapes of Redskins' games from last year might have this stat on hand - - or might try to go and get it:


I wonder what percentage of the time on defense that the Redskins lined up in a 3-4 defense last year My guess is less than 60% of the time because I saw them in a 4-3 or a 4-2-5 more than just once in a while.


I do not think that the Redskins were playing 3-4 an overwhelming number of defensive snaps last year.


So - - if you think Rocky might not be ideal for ILB in a 3-4, perhaps that is not what they want to have him do this year. Maybe he is their OLB in the 4-3...???

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon

Maybe one of the folks here who has retained tapes of Redskins' games from last year might have this stat on hand - - or might try to go and get it:


I wonder what percentage of the time on defense that the Redskins lined up in a 3-4 defense last year My guess is less than 60% of the time because I saw them in a 4-3 or a 4-2-5 more than just once in a while.


I do not think that the Redskins were playing 3-4 an overwhelming number of defensive snaps last year.


So - - if you think Rocky might not be ideal for ILB in a 3-4, perhaps that is not what they want to have him do this year. Maybe he is their OLB in the 4-3...???

we're not going back to the 4-3, and Rocky may not even be on the team come week 1, this signing could be a back up/camp body signing.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon

Maybe one of the folks here who has retained tapes of Redskins' games from last year might have this stat on hand - - or might try to go and get it:


I wonder what percentage of the time on defense that the Redskins lined up in a 3-4 defense last year My guess is less than 60% of the time because I saw them in a 4-3 or a 4-2-5 more than just once in a while.


I do not think that the Redskins were playing 3-4 an overwhelming number of defensive snaps last year.


So - - if you think Rocky might not be ideal for ILB in a 3-4, perhaps that is not what they want to have him do this year. Maybe he is their OLB in the 4-3...???

Four most recent games I've seen (Dallas week 1, Green Bay, Minnesota, Jacksonville) all saw the team play about 80% of their defensive snaps with a 3-4 alignment. The only times they went away from it was on obvious passing downs with different 4 man fronts (sometimes 2 man seeing as how they had two or three guys standing up).

I know with Indy they tried some sort of amoeba defense but other then that I'd say they were true to the 3-4 most of the year. Biggest difference though between the first half of the season and the last half came in the amount of blitzing. First half they were extremely aggressive, second half was more bend don't break.

Chicago might have had more 4 man fronts but I'm guessing that based on how that game served as Haynesworth marquee game in 2010.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon

Maybe one of the folks here who has retained tapes of Redskins' games from last year might have this stat on hand - - or might try to go and get it:


I wonder what percentage of the time on defense that the Redskins lined up in a 3-4 defense last year My guess is less than 60% of the time because I saw them in a 4-3 or a 4-2-5 more than just once in a while.


I do not think that the Redskins were playing 3-4 an overwhelming number of defensive snaps last year.


So - - if you think Rocky might not be ideal for ILB in a 3-4, perhaps that is not what they want to have him do this year. Maybe he is their OLB in the 4-3...???

Just under 51% of the total snaps were in a 3-4 in 2011

[sportscurmudgeon]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Just under 51% of the total snaps were in a 3-4 in 2011

WOW!! Thanks for the info...

I thought it was close to 60% but never would have guessed it was only about half of the snaps for the season.

So, the Skins do not have to "go back to a 4-3 team" this year because they played a lot of "stuff" other than 3-4 last year - - when the excuse for the poor defense was that they had personnel that did not fit the defense they only played half the time.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Just under 51% of the total snaps were in a 3-4 in 2011

Source. For all I know you're just throwing up numbers, granted I am to but I have a hard time believing it's as low as 51%. Should be at least around 66% (2/3 = .666666)

I mean sure on 3rd downs I would see crazy formations like this


However most of the time (and I don't mean 51% most) I'm seeing some form of this. 3 down lineman, 2 inside backers, 2 standing outside rushers.

[warriorzpath]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Just under 51% of the total snaps were in a 3-4 in 2011

How much would that percentage change if you took away the opposing teams punt or field goal attempt plays?

[steveo395]

Originally Posted by warriorzpath

How much would that percentage change if you took away the opposing teams punt or field goal attempt plays?

That is special teams so I'm guessing that wouldn't count on defensive snaps.

[SirClintonPortis]

Shanahan does not like making anyone feel complacent. Rocky might be "back", but as the dude brought in to scare the 1st teamers, not the dude who is a 1st teamer.

[Defensewins]

I think it way too early to be giving the ILB job Riley or any other player.
Let it be earned in the preseason games against starting offensive lines. Not the second and third string lines.

Has Riley been handed the starting position in camp? I have not seen that mentioned by any coach anywhere. I doubt the depth chart in Training camp will be the same as game 1 depth chart.
I bet Rocky is being brought as insurance. Would not be surprised if he gets cut come September.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

I think it way too early to be giving the ILB job Riley or any other player.
Let it be earned in the preseason games against starting offensive lines. Not the second and third string lines.

Has Riley been handed the starting position in camp? I have not seen that mentioned by any coach anywhere. I doubt the depth chart in Training camp will be the same as game 1 depth chart.
I bet Rocky is being brought as insurance. Would not be surprised if he gets cut come September.

Yeah, he has. Nobody has been talking about him lighting it up against scrubs in camp. He's playing with the first team d and is penciled in as the starter so far.

[SmootSmack]

Well the key word is penciled. It's Riley's to lose