Vick: Goodell Helped Convince Me To Sign With Eagles

12thMan · 08-18-2011, 11:13 AM

On the surface, it looks like Roger Goodell was/is meddling and perhaps overstepped his authority here. But let's be honest for a second, this wasn't Joe Blow quarterback that was released from prison and wanted to come back to play football. Had this story not taken on national and international importance, maybe Goodell steps back a little and allow things to run it's course. This story was dominating headlines for sometime. Wherever Michael Vick landed it would have come back to Roger Goodell's judgement or lack thereof. Tony Dungy would have suffered no repercussions if Vick went rogue again. So either way, Goodell and Vick were partners in his ultimate decision.

Roger Goodell is running a multi-billion dollar global enterprise, not your local Walmart. He is very much involved with not just the business side of the NFL, but also responsible for fashioning the image and making the product more accessible to consumers around the world as well as local communities. And players and what uniforms they put on are a big part of that. I'm sure he weighed all of this during his meetings with Vick.

I don't know if Michael Vick is the face of the NFL, but it's hard to argue that he's not in the top two or three right now. And if Philly goes to the Super Bowl, Goodell will get a lot of credit for helping Vick make a stunning comeback.

Schneed10 · 08-18-2011, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by 12thMan

On the surface, it looks like Roger Goodell was/is meddling and perhaps overstepped his authority here. But let's be honest for a second, this wasn't Joe Blow quarterback that was released from prison and wanted to come back to play football. Had this story not taken on national and international importance, maybe Goodell steps back a little and allow things to run it's course. This story was dominating headlines for sometime. Wherever Michael Vick landed it would have come back to Roger Goodell's judgement or lack thereof. Tony Dungy would have suffered no repercussions if Vick went rogue again. So either way, Goodell and Vick were partners in his ultimate decision.

Roger Goodell is running a multi-billion dollar global enterprise, not your local Walmart. He is very much involved with not just the business side of the NFL, but also responsible for fashioning the image and making the product more accessible to consumers around the world as well as local communities. And players and what uniforms they put on are a big part of that. I'm sure he weighed all of this during his meetings with Vick.

I don't know if Michael Vick is the face of the NFL, but it's hard to argue that he's not in the top two or three right now. And if Philly goes to the Super Bowl, Goodell will get a lot of credit for helping Vick make a stunning comeback.

To me, maintaining the integrity of the league takes priority over making the business decision to help Vick minimize the risk (to both Vick and the NFL itself) of a relapse.

12thMan · 08-18-2011, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Schneed10

To me, maintaining the integrity of the league takes priority over making the business decision to help Vick minimize the risk (to both Vick and the NFL itself) of a relapse.

I think those two things are related at the end of the day.

Schneed10 · 08-18-2011, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by 12thMan

I think those two things are related at the end of the day.

Not from the perspective of the Bengals or the Bills, they're not at all.

firstdown · 08-18-2011, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Schneed10

To me, maintaining the integrity of the league takes priority over making the business decision to help Vick minimize the risk (to both Vick and the NFL itself) of a relapse.

Then don't reinstate him. It comes down to money and they know MV sells tickets and Godell over stepped here for money.

irish · 08-18-2011, 11:21 AM

I dont have a problem with what RG did, although its impossible to tell from this article what he said. He was looking out for the league by helping a high profile player get himself into a good situation that will make both the player and league look good. That's what I call a win-win.

Cincy would have been a disaster for MV as Cincy has the worst head coach at any level of football. That wasnt what MV or the league needed or wanted.

sportscurmudgeon · 08-18-2011, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by irish

I dont have a problem with what RG did, although its impossible to tell from this article what he said. He was looking out for the league by helping a high profile player get himself into a good situation that will make both the player and league look good. That's what I call a win-win.

Cincy would have been a disaster for MV as Cincy has the worst head coach at any level of football. That wasnt what MV or the league needed or wanted.

Just curious - - because I don't know:

Is Jerry Faust still coaching?

irish · 08-18-2011, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon

Just curious - - because I don't know:

Is Jerry Faust still coaching?

LOL, I dont think he is. IMO Marvin Lewis makes him look like Knute Rockne. Lewis was a good D coordinator but a disaster as HC.

skinsfan69 · 08-18-2011, 01:12 PM

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LOL, I dont think he is. IMO Marvin Lewis makes him look like Knute Rockne. Lewis was a good D coordinator but a disaster as HC.

I'm not sure he's a disaster, he's just in Cinn. He would've fared much better had he gotten a better job. Lewis is in for a real long year.

irish · 08-18-2011, 02:27 PM

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I'm not sure he's a disaster, he's just in Cinn. He would've fared much better had he gotten a better job. Lewis is in for a real long year.

If you put Lewis as HC in Pitt or NE those teams will be cellar dwellers within 2 years. He has some nice talent in Cincy but has screwed it up.

SirClintonPortis · 08-18-2011, 11:26 AM

It wasn't only Goodell, but also "other reps from the NFL" in that meeting he talked about.

skinsfan69 · 08-18-2011, 11:51 AM

What I found interesting is that the Bengals wanted him while they still had Carson Palmer starting.

SmootSmack · 08-18-2011, 11:55 AM

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What I found interesting is that the Bengals wanted him while they still had Carson Palmer starting.

Yeah, I thought that was interesting too. Because to hear Vick tell it they told him he'd start in Cincy

irish · 08-18-2011, 12:30 PM

It appears Faust is now a motivational speaker (according to Wiki). I didnt know people needed to be motivated on how to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

rbanerjee23 · 08-18-2011, 04:35 PM

If you read the interview it makes you realize what a POS Vick still is in some regards -- he basically hand waves the whole killing dogs thing as a part of black culture and growing up poor or whatnot. I am not black but I have a tough time believing that drowning, fighting, and electrocuting dogs is part of any culture, black or otherwise

08-18-2011, 11:13 AM	#1
12thMan MVP Join Date: May 2005 Location: washington, D.C. Posts: 11,460	Re: Vick: Goodell Helped Convince Me To Sign With Eagles On the surface, it looks like Roger Goodell was/is meddling and perhaps overstepped his authority here. But let's be honest for a second, this wasn't Joe Blow quarterback that was released from prison and wanted to come back to play football. Had this story not taken on national and international importance, maybe Goodell steps back a little and allow things to run it's course. This story was dominating headlines for sometime. Wherever Michael Vick landed it would have come back to Roger Goodell's judgement or lack thereof. Tony Dungy would have suffered no repercussions if Vick went rogue again. So either way, Goodell and Vick were partners in his ultimate decision. Roger Goodell is running a multi-billion dollar global enterprise, not your local Walmart. He is very much involved with not just the business side of the NFL, but also responsible for fashioning the image and making the product more accessible to consumers around the world as well as local communities. And players and what uniforms they put on are a big part of that. I'm sure he weighed all of this during his meetings with Vick. I don't know if Michael Vick is the face of the NFL, but it's hard to argue that he's not in the top two or three right now. And if Philly goes to the Super Bowl, Goodell will get a lot of credit for helping Vick make a stunning comeback.

08-18-2011, 11:21 AM	#6
irish Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 4,575	Re: Vick: Goodell Helped Convince Me To Sign With Eagles I dont have a problem with what RG did, although its impossible to tell from this article what he said. He was looking out for the league by helping a high profile player get himself into a good situation that will make both the player and league look good. That's what I call a win-win. Cincy would have been a disaster for MV as Cincy has the worst head coach at any level of football. That wasnt what MV or the league needed or wanted.

08-18-2011, 11:26 AM	#11
SirClintonPortis Pro Bowl Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 6,052	Re: Vick: Goodell Helped Convince Me To Sign With Eagles It wasn't only Goodell, but also "other reps from the NFL" in that meeting he talked about. __________________ Analysis using datasets (aka stats) is an attempt at reverse-engineering a player's "goodness". Virtuosity remembered, douchebaggery forgotten. The ideal character profile shoved down modern Western men and women's throats is Don Juan.

08-18-2011, 11:51 AM	#12
skinsfan69 Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 17,452	Re: Vick: Goodell Helped Convince Me To Sign With Eagles What I found interesting is that the Bengals wanted him while they still had Carson Palmer starting.

08-18-2011, 12:30 PM	#14
irish Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 4,575	Re: Vick: Goodell Helped Convince Me To Sign With Eagles It appears Faust is now a motivational speaker (according to Wiki). I didnt know people needed to be motivated on how to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

08-18-2011, 04:35 PM	#15
rbanerjee23 The Starter Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,440	Re: Vick: Goodell Helped Convince Me To Sign With Eagles If you read the interview it makes you realize what a POS Vick still is in some regards -- he basically hand waves the whole killing dogs thing as a part of black culture and growing up poor or whatnot. I am not black but I have a tough time believing that drowning, fighting, and electrocuting dogs is part of any culture, black or otherwise __________________ "Tough times don't last but tough people do" -Mike Shanahan HTTR

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