Vick is a crybaby

mooby · 09-26-2011, 02:14 AM

Anybody see the play today where Muhammad Wilkerson of the jets barely bumped Jason Campbell and got roughing the passer called on him? Now that call was some bs, and the only reason I'm bringing it up is to point out how pretentious the racism angle is. Vick doesn't get the calls because he's a dual threat qb, not because he's black. If anything the call should've been helmet to helmet and not roughing the passer.

Meks · 09-26-2011, 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by mooby

Anybody see the play today where Muhammad Wilkerson of the jets barely bumped Jason Campbell and got roughing the passer called on him? Now that call was some bs, and the only reason I'm bringing it up is to point out how pretentious the racism angle is. Vick doesn't get the calls because he's a dual threat qb, not because he's black. If anything the call should've been helmet to helmet and not roughing the passer.

did u also see the bogus intentional grounding call on the same play ? one.bad call to offset another, least they got that right .... Matt Ryan was hut helmet to.helmet worse than that BY THE EAGLES.. didn't get a flag or cry. .. **** racism... he doesn't get hit un fairly or borderline any effing more than alot of other passers in the league... he's a whiny brat with a false sense of entitlement just like the team, city and fans gettin plays for.

Trent dilfer ripped him on sports center with valid points and rightfully so...

Giantone · 09-26-2011, 07:11 AM

Here is an idea....have the Offensive line block!!!
Last year when the Skins Mcnabb was getting hit was it racism???
Vick brings this on himself by extending the play and holding the ball longer then other QB's....and once he runs(outside the pocket) he is not a QB but a running back and all QB protection rules are off.
Serously look at the Canty play again....he is not hit in the head put the chest and shoulder as was explained on Mike and Mike this morning,the other big hit he took was on his INT when he tried to make a tackle and was nailed.....again he is a normal player and can be ....and should be hit on plays such as these.Cutler in Chicargo has ben hit more this year then Vick....racism my ass he's a cry baby and needs to STFU!!!

P.S>

...watch a boatload of Football yesterday and not in any game but the Giant game did this happen .The refs helped Vick off the ground 3 times...never helped Eli or any other QB from what I saw....must be racism.

mooby · 09-26-2011, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Meks

did u also see the bogus intentional grounding call on the same play ? one.bad call to offset another, least they got that right .... Matt Ryan was hut helmet to.helmet worse than that BY THE EAGLES.. didn't get a flag or cry. .. **** racism... he doesn't get hit un fairly or borderline any effing more than alot of other passers in the league... he's a whiny brat with a false sense of entitlement just like the team, city and fans gettin plays for.

Trent dilfer ripped him on sports center with valid points and rightfully so...

I did see the intentional grounding but that wasn't bogus at all, he was within the tackle box and he threw it to an area where there was no receiver in the vincinity. My point was the racism angle is just completely stupid. Could there have been a flag on that play? Yes, but for one reason or another, he didn't get it. He should be busy teaching his offensive linemen how to block instead of getting pissed at the refs.

mooby · 09-26-2011, 02:18 AM

Honestly I haven't seen as many borderline roughing the passer penalties as I did last year and I think the refs might've been instructed to lay off a little bit if it didn't appear intentional.

But the big problem with the refs across the league is inconsistency. They are just not consistent when it comes to appropriately measuring out punishment for intentional acts.

over the mountain · 09-26-2011, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by mooby

Honestly I haven't seen as many borderline roughing the passer penalties as I did last year and I think the refs might've been instructed to lay off a little bit if it didn't appear intentional.

But the big problem with the refs across the league is inconsistency. They are just not consistent when it comes to appropriately measuring out punishment for intentional acts.

agreed.
imo it seems the roughing the passer calls have been called less frequently than last year. There have been plays where i watch and say to myself "thats 15 yards" then no flag is thrown where as last year it would have been. i guess they overcall it the first year the rule is implemented, then during the offseason the league goes over film with them and tries to curb the unnecessary flags.

also i think there is a discrepancy btw refs as to what each individual ref considers roughing the passer.

heard mangini say on ESPN radio this morning that a 15 yard PF flag is thrown for something like 2.3 or 2.6 percent of vicks drop backs which is right in line with the QB league avg.

Alvin Walton · 09-26-2011, 07:26 AM

Wow, the refs are in Mike V's doghouse, sucks to be them.

Giantone · 09-26-2011, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Alvin Walton

Wow, the refs are in Mike V's doghouse, sucks to be them.

LOL....Best Post of the Day!! also ...most stolen post of the day!!!

JoeRedskin · 09-26-2011, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Alvin Walton

Wow, the refs are in Mike V's doghouse, sucks to be them.

Brilliant!!

Daseal · 09-26-2011, 07:33 AM

Yeah. The racism comment is bullshit. I'm guessing a racist wouldn't try for a job in a league that is primarily black. Wasn't Mike Carey the ref of this game as well? I could have that confused, but I thought he was.

Vick doesn't get the calls because he constantly extends the plays. Most QBs can't escape the way Vick can. If you don't finish the play with Vick, there's a good chance it's going for 7 afterwords. He also holds on to the ball until the last second and constantly extends the play. Nothing wrong with that, but there are consequences for that type of action.

Vick gives up his body, but he's also pretty fragile. I know if I were a coach, I'd be preaching to get hits in on Vick. Put him on the ground. Nothing dirty, but finish the plays. Because if Kafka comes in, we win!

mlmdub130 · 09-26-2011, 07:34 AM

i didn't see any of the game i was driving all day yesterday, but after watching the "highlights" of vicks game from the original post, that was just a bad game by the eagles and vick. and the canty hit did not look like helemt to helmet, he hit vicks shoulder with his helmet, which the ref is clearly motioning to the eagles sideline after the play.

and as far as the race thing goes, thats way of base imo. the only qb's who get the roughing the passer calls are manning and brady and mostly just brady. and they are the poster boys for the nfl so yeah a few more call are going to go their way.

vick is just a punk, always has been always will be, the guy just can't take adversity for shit. the second it starts getting rough he loses his cool and can't stay focused on the game. just look at last week when he scoreboarded the falcons fans as he was walking off. not that is't a huge issue, but it just shows you his lack of focus. bet a reid would love to see kolb walkin thru tunnel right about now

Meks · 09-26-2011, 09:07 AM

blah

MTK · 09-26-2011, 09:08 AM

Report: Vick will miss 3-4 weeks | ProFootballTalk

GTripp0012 · 09-26-2011, 11:42 AM

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Report: Vick will miss 3-4 weeks | ProFootballTalk

Unless they also lose a guy like McCoy or Maclin, they're going to be the toughest team on our schedule in the near future, with or without Vick.

The Eagles without Vick are a better team than the Cowboys or Rams at current strength.

artmonkforhallofamein07 · 09-26-2011, 09:34 AM

At looking at the calendar that puts him out for our week 6 meeting at FedEx on Oct. 15th.

09-26-2011, 02:14 AM	#1
mooby Hug Anne Spyder Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 20,577	Anybody see the play today where Muhammad Wilkerson of the jets barely bumped Jason Campbell and got roughing the passer called on him? Now that call was some bs, and the only reason I'm bringing it up is to point out how pretentious the racism angle is. Vick doesn't get the calls because he's a dual threat qb, not because he's black. If anything the call should've been helmet to helmet and not roughing the passer. __________________ Hail to the Football Team

09-26-2011, 07:11 AM	#3
Giantone Gamebreaker Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 14,427	Re: Vick is a crybaby Here is an idea....have the Offensive line block!!! Last year when the Skins Mcnabb was getting hit was it racism??? Vick brings this on himself by extending the play and holding the ball longer then other QB's....and once he runs(outside the pocket) he is not a QB but a running back and all QB protection rules are off. Serously look at the Canty play again....he is not hit in the head put the chest and shoulder as was explained on Mike and Mike this morning,the other big hit he took was on his INT when he tried to make a tackle and was nailed.....again he is a normal player and can be ....and should be hit on plays such as these.Cutler in Chicargo has ben hit more this year then Vick....racism my ass he's a cry baby and needs to STFU!!! P.S> ...watch a boatload of Football yesterday and not in any game but the Giant game did this happen .The refs helped Vick off the ground 3 times...never helped Eli or any other QB from what I saw....must be racism. __________________ ....DISCLAIMER: All of my posts/threads are my expressed typed opinion and the reader is not to assume these comments are absolute fact, law, or truth unless otherwise stated in said post/thread. Last edited by Giantone; 09-26-2011 at 07:21 AM.

09-26-2011, 02:18 AM	#5
mooby Hug Anne Spyder Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 20,577	Honestly I haven't seen as many borderline roughing the passer penalties as I did last year and I think the refs might've been instructed to lay off a little bit if it didn't appear intentional. But the big problem with the refs across the league is inconsistency. They are just not consistent when it comes to appropriately measuring out punishment for intentional acts. __________________ Hail to the Football Team

09-26-2011, 07:26 AM	#7
Alvin Walton Pro Bowl Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Holland, Michigan Posts: 5,741	Re: Vick is a crybaby Wow, the refs are in Mike V's doghouse, sucks to be them. __________________ REDSKINS FAN SINCE 1968

09-26-2011, 07:33 AM	#10
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 42 Posts: 8,341	Re: Vick is a crybaby Yeah. The racism comment is bullshit. I'm guessing a racist wouldn't try for a job in a league that is primarily black. Wasn't Mike Carey the ref of this game as well? I could have that confused, but I thought he was. Vick doesn't get the calls because he constantly extends the plays. Most QBs can't escape the way Vick can. If you don't finish the play with Vick, there's a good chance it's going for 7 afterwords. He also holds on to the ball until the last second and constantly extends the play. Nothing wrong with that, but there are consequences for that type of action. Vick gives up his body, but he's also pretty fragile. I know if I were a coach, I'd be preaching to get hits in on Vick. Put him on the ground. Nothing dirty, but finish the plays. Because if Kafka comes in, we win! __________________ Best. Player. Available.

09-26-2011, 07:34 AM	#11
mlmdub130 Playmaker Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Woodbridge, VA Age: 42 Posts: 3,238	Re: Vick is a crybaby i didn't see any of the game i was driving all day yesterday, but after watching the "highlights" of vicks game from the original post, that was just a bad game by the eagles and vick. and the canty hit did not look like helemt to helmet, he hit vicks shoulder with his helmet, which the ref is clearly motioning to the eagles sideline after the play. and as far as the race thing goes, thats way of base imo. the only qb's who get the roughing the passer calls are manning and brady and mostly just brady. and they are the poster boys for the nfl so yeah a few more call are going to go their way. vick is just a punk, always has been always will be, the guy just can't take adversity for shit. the second it starts getting rough he loses his cool and can't stay focused on the game. just look at last week when he scoreboarded the falcons fans as he was walking off. not that is't a huge issue, but it just shows you his lack of focus. bet a reid would love to see kolb walkin thru tunnel right about now __________________ "I don't think anybody should have regrets, especially me, ... You don't regret what you do in your life. If you do it, you do it for a reason." ST21

09-26-2011, 09:07 AM	#12
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09-26-2011, 09:08 AM	#13
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09-26-2011, 09:34 AM	#15
artmonkforhallofamein07 Pro Bowl Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Charleston , SC Posts: 5,001	Re: Vick is a crybaby At looking at the calendar that puts him out for our week 6 meeting at FedEx on Oct. 15th. __________________ Just win.

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