Offseason Power Rankings - # 29

SkinsRock · 05-17-2005, 02:24 PM

My first reaction was to be pissed off, but the more I think about it, fine, let them put the Skins dead last! That way when we end up with a decent record and end up in the top 10, they all have to eat crow...and LOTS of it!!!
Seriously, when was the last time the Redskins dropped in power rankings after FA and the draft...at least this substantially? Watch teams like the Vikings and Cowboys that have "made great strides" this offseason flounder in mediocrity due to lack of chemistry. They are like this years Redskins as far as "winning" the offseason.
Our offseason has had a real "team" type of feel to it. No huge stars, but a lot of team-oriented guys that will make our team better. I think our special teams will be very good, which may make the difference in more than a couple games. I also think our offense will be improved....not super explosive, but we'll at least be able to put some points on the board. So if our D is anywhere close to last season, we should end up around 10-6...no worse than 9-7...

MTK · 05-17-2005, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by irish

Matty, how do you expect the skins O to move up to a top 10 when they have done almost nothing to improve?

As much as I hate to say it, I think this poll is closer to being correct than being wrong. I doubt the skins will be 29th at the end of the season but I will be amazed if they can get to 15.

I think you're mixing me up with someone else, I didn't say anything about the offense going top 10.

My view is it's way to early for a power poll, it's just silly to rank teams right now.

RedskinRat · 05-17-2005, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I think you're mixing me up with someone else, I didn't say anything about the offense going top 10.

My view is it's way to early for a power poll, it's just silly to rank teams right now.

Hey, quit dogging Matt, it was me.

I WANT our offense to be top ten, didn't say they were.

BrudLee · 05-17-2005, 01:53 PM

This is where we should be ranked... in May. We had, though not a disasterous offseason, certainly not one that made strides of improvement over last year's squad - and last year's squad left us picking 9th.

I don't think we are the third worst team in the league - far from it. But for the purposes of the May 2005 Power Rankings, we are what we are.

Gmanc711 · 05-17-2005, 02:23 PM

Whatever, its May.

Riggo44 · 05-17-2005, 02:31 PM

Who cares it's only May. Besides I like being the under dog!!!

JWsleep · 05-17-2005, 02:40 PM

What really matters, and what's not shown in this "power ranking" thing, is what I'll call the 3 C's= Coaching, Chemistry, and Continuity. For the first time in a long time, I feel good about these things. And, remember: we usually get over-ranked in these things in the offseason because of our wild, splashy offseason moves.

Here's what we did this offseason, Irish: we improved the O-line (Rabach, Jansen's return), we altered our receiving corps (Patten, Moss), we didn't break the bank on anyone, even though we lost some good players in Pierce and Smoot, and we drafted a CB replacement, some depth at LB and FB/H-back, and we got a QB prospect (Brunell's replacement, and insurance for Ramsey). Nothing here is on paper an upgrade, I'll admit, except Rabach. ANd given that we were 6-10, why should we move up in the polls (which are pretty subjective: what IS a power ranking???). BUt that's not what's going to matter. It's the three C's, the big one being coaching. If GIbbs gets it going on offense, we'll be good--a decent shot at a wild-card, is my bet. If not, it aint gonna happen, and all the flashy signings wouldn't change a thing.

Ron Burgundy and Gold · 05-17-2005, 02:54 PM

I see parallels between us and last year Chargers team anyway. They fought their way to a 12-4 record with a strong defense, a dominant tailback, less than amazing receivers and a quarterback revitalized after everyone wrote him off in favor for the incoming rookie.

Now Clinton Portis isn't exactly Tomlinson (though you have to think he'll score more than 5 touchdowns this year) and Chris Cooley, though productive, is no Antonio Gates. But our defense is stronger I'd say, and I doubt many would argue that Gibbs is a superior coach to Schottenheimer. Now if Ramsey can just have himself a Brees 2004 season, we might be in business.

Redskins8588 · 05-17-2005, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron Burgundy and Gold

I see parallels between us and last year Chargers team anyway. They fought their way to a 12-4 record with a strong defense, a dominant tailback, less than amazing receivers and a quarterback revitalized after everyone wrote him off in favor for the incoming rookie.

Now Clinton Portis isn't exactly Tomlinson (though you have to think he'll score more than 5 touchdowns this year) and Chris Cooley, though productive, is no Antonio Gates. But our defense is stronger I'd say, and I doubt many would argue that Gibbs is a superior coach to Schottenheimer. Now if Ramsey can just have himself a Brees 2004 season, we might be in business.

I agree that our team does parallel the Chargers of last year, but I look at it slightly different.

I think that Moss and Patten are upgrades compared to the WR's that the chargers have. I mean they didnt get a known wr until they got McCardell.

As for Portis being compared to Tomlinson, I think that you hit the nail on the head. If you look at there stats, they were almost identical. The only differenc is the TD coulmn, but as for carries and yards and yards per carry, they are really close to the same. I too hope that Portis gets in to the endzone more than five times also, but to be fair it wasnt all his fault. And Cooley isnt Gates, but I feel pretty confidant that he will get the job done.

The biggest person/position we need to perform this year is the QB/Ramsey, hopefully Gibbs inserts the shotgun formation and Ramsey lights up this year...

Paintrain · 05-17-2005, 04:49 PM

Offseason power polls are as pointless as the post draft report cards..

irish · 05-17-2005, 03:03 PM

Sorry Matty, I confused you with Redskins Rat.

Why is it silly to rank teams now? With that logic it would be silly to ever rank teams (or talka about what the future holds) because nobody has any idea who will play, be injured, etc, no matter what time of the season it is.

FRPLG · 05-17-2005, 03:05 PM

This is me not caring.

mooby · 05-17-2005, 03:15 PM

who cares. it's may. they judge us every year, and because we didn't make great strides in the offseason to improve a losing record, they are assuming that we are gonna suck again this year. im sure the years before this one we were ranked high in may power rankings mainly because of all the people we picked up in the offseason.

aprius · 05-17-2005, 03:22 PM

We barely improved the O-line...We still have questionable depth there.
We replaced Smoot with a question mark that may take a couple years to develop.
We replaced Pierce.
We still have questions at QB.
We have questions at WR.
If Sean Taylor, Cooley, Nowland, Wilson and Molinaro have a soph slump and Dockery, Ray Brown, Jansen, all the new LB's and LA cant or dont perform our offense and defense could be alot worse.
We have too many questions for a good ranking.

That Guy · 05-17-2005, 03:22 PM

last year we fixed a leaky defense, this year we'll fix crappy special teams... EVERY move this offseason has basically been for special teams (even rodgers is expected to play some there), so if we've got 2/3rds of our team in the top 5, we should be alright... on offense we got a better oline by 2 parts and better deep threats to help portis get some space (hopefully)... i dont think our yardage is going to go way up (except for ramsey replacing brunell), but there should be less 8-9 in the box plays against us.

05-17-2005, 02:24 PM	#1
SkinsRock Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Crofton, MD Age: 55 Posts: 907	Re: Offseason Power Rankings - # 29 My first reaction was to be pissed off, but the more I think about it, fine, let them put the Skins dead last! That way when we end up with a decent record and end up in the top 10, they all have to eat crow...and LOTS of it!!! Seriously, when was the last time the Redskins dropped in power rankings after FA and the draft...at least this substantially? Watch teams like the Vikings and Cowboys that have "made great strides" this offseason flounder in mediocrity due to lack of chemistry. They are like this years Redskins as far as "winning" the offseason. Our offseason has had a real "team" type of feel to it. No huge stars, but a lot of team-oriented guys that will make our team better. I think our special teams will be very good, which may make the difference in more than a couple games. I also think our offense will be improved....not super explosive, but we'll at least be able to put some points on the board. So if our D is anywhere close to last season, we should end up around 10-6...no worse than 9-7...

05-17-2005, 01:53 PM	#4
BrudLee Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Rehoboth Beach, DE Posts: 3,494	Re: Offseason Power Rankings - # 29 This is where we should be ranked... in May. We had, though not a disasterous offseason, certainly not one that made strides of improvement over last year's squad - and last year's squad left us picking 9th. I don't think we are the third worst team in the league - far from it. But for the purposes of the May 2005 Power Rankings, we are what we are. __________________ There's nowhere to go but up. Or down. I guess we could stay where we are, too.

05-17-2005, 02:23 PM	#5
Gmanc711 Thank You, Sean. Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Gaithersburg, MD Age: 39 Posts: 7,506	Re: Offseason Power Rankings - # 29 Whatever, its May. __________________ #21

05-17-2005, 02:31 PM	#6
Riggo44 The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: San Clemente CA Age: 51 Posts: 2,390	Re: Offseason Power Rankings - # 29 Who cares it's only May. Besides I like being the under dog!!! __________________ Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. Benjamin Franklin

05-17-2005, 02:40 PM	#7
JWsleep Propane and propane accessories Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston, TX Age: 56 Posts: 4,719	Re: Offseason Power Rankings - # 29 What really matters, and what's not shown in this "power ranking" thing, is what I'll call the 3 C's= Coaching, Chemistry, and Continuity. For the first time in a long time, I feel good about these things. And, remember: we usually get over-ranked in these things in the offseason because of our wild, splashy offseason moves. Here's what we did this offseason, Irish: we improved the O-line (Rabach, Jansen's return), we altered our receiving corps (Patten, Moss), we didn't break the bank on anyone, even though we lost some good players in Pierce and Smoot, and we drafted a CB replacement, some depth at LB and FB/H-back, and we got a QB prospect (Brunell's replacement, and insurance for Ramsey). Nothing here is on paper an upgrade, I'll admit, except Rabach. ANd given that we were 6-10, why should we move up in the polls (which are pretty subjective: what IS a power ranking???). BUt that's not what's going to matter. It's the three C's, the big one being coaching. If GIbbs gets it going on offense, we'll be good--a decent shot at a wild-card, is my bet. If not, it aint gonna happen, and all the flashy signings wouldn't change a thing. __________________ Hail from Houston!

05-17-2005, 02:54 PM	#8
Ron Burgundy and Gold Camp Scrub Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Damascus, MD/Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 12	Re: Offseason Power Rankings - # 29 I see parallels between us and last year Chargers team anyway. They fought their way to a 12-4 record with a strong defense, a dominant tailback, less than amazing receivers and a quarterback revitalized after everyone wrote him off in favor for the incoming rookie. Now Clinton Portis isn't exactly Tomlinson (though you have to think he'll score more than 5 touchdowns this year) and Chris Cooley, though productive, is no Antonio Gates. But our defense is stronger I'd say, and I doubt many would argue that Gibbs is a superior coach to Schottenheimer. Now if Ramsey can just have himself a Brees 2004 season, we might be in business. __________________ Fight on, fight on, 'til you have won, sons of Washington.

05-17-2005, 04:49 PM	#10
Paintrain Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Ft. Lauderdale, FL Age: 54 Posts: 5,006	Re: Offseason Power Rankings - # 29 Offseason power polls are as pointless as the post draft report cards..

05-17-2005, 03:03 PM	#11
irish Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 4,575	Re: Offseason Power Rankings - # 29 Sorry Matty, I confused you with Redskins Rat. Why is it silly to rank teams now? With that logic it would be silly to ever rank teams (or talka about what the future holds) because nobody has any idea who will play, be injured, etc, no matter what time of the season it is.

05-17-2005, 03:05 PM	#12
FRPLG MVP Join Date: May 2004 Age: 46 Posts: 10,164	Re: Offseason Power Rankings - # 29 This is me not caring.

05-17-2005, 03:15 PM	#13
mooby Hug Anne Spyder Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 20,577	Re: Offseason Power Rankings - # 29 who cares. it's may. they judge us every year, and because we didn't make great strides in the offseason to improve a losing record, they are assuming that we are gonna suck again this year. im sure the years before this one we were ranked high in may power rankings mainly because of all the people we picked up in the offseason. __________________ Hail to the Football Team

05-17-2005, 03:22 PM	#14
aprius Camp Scrub Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Call it Frisco....I am originally from DC Posts: 56	Re: Offseason Power Rankings - # 29 We barely improved the O-line...We still have questionable depth there. We replaced Smoot with a question mark that may take a couple years to develop. We replaced Pierce. We still have questions at QB. We have questions at WR. If Sean Taylor, Cooley, Nowland, Wilson and Molinaro have a soph slump and Dockery, Ray Brown, Jansen, all the new LB's and LA cant or dont perform our offense and defense could be alot worse. We have too many questions for a good ranking. __________________ Hail Redskins!

05-17-2005, 03:22 PM	#15
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,620	Re: Offseason Power Rankings - # 29 last year we fixed a leaky defense, this year we'll fix crappy special teams... EVERY move this offseason has basically been for special teams (even rodgers is expected to play some there), so if we've got 2/3rds of our team in the top 5, we should be alright... on offense we got a better oline by 2 parts and better deep threats to help portis get some space (hopefully)... i dont think our yardage is going to go way up (except for ramsey replacing brunell), but there should be less 8-9 in the box plays against us.

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