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SBXVII · 10-10-2011, 10:02 AM

^ I could be confusing the DL guy with the DC guy but if Ried would swallow some pride and make a few tweaks it could be fixed. The defense reminds me of last yrs Skins. Teams ran all over us and now with the right personell the Skins are a lot better. So I can see how the scheme might work for the DC next yr but if your looking to make the run this yr they need to change their mind set a little. Instead of getting gashed both through the air and on the ground they need to start stopping one of the two maybe the run and force teams to try through the air to beat them.

12thMan · 10-10-2011, 10:10 AM

Thing is the Eagles have so much money tied between Nnamdi and Vick. And how big was Cullen Jenkins contract, Cromratie? I think they're going to have to work with what they got. And Trent Cole, when is he a FA?

Hog1 · 10-10-2011, 10:38 AM

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Thing is the Eagles have so much money tied between Nnamdi and Vick. And how big was Cullen Jenkins contract, Cromratie? I think they're going to have to work with what they got. And Trent Cole, when is he a FA?

They totally WON the off-season.....

SBXVII · 10-10-2011, 11:23 AM

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They totally WON the off-season.....

As we have seen it's hard to break the "joke of the offseason" team, with all the yrs we spent and thought we'd take the division. But.... it's nice to see another team having done what we did with great disapointment as well. lol.

I'm not sure what's funnier the fact the team is doing so bad or the fact everyone to include the fans and media thought this was their year, the "dream team" and it was a failure (buying a championship) like it has been for the Skins for 10 yrs.

hooskins · 10-10-2011, 10:13 AM

The key has to be pressuring and hitting Vick. Also, I am sure Philly we start going back to more bootlegs and moving the pocket. Gotta keep that left-hand side on lock.

Stuck in TX · 10-10-2011, 10:17 AM

Its really crazy how history repeats itself....The Falcons traded away their stud backup QB and handed Vick a giant contract. The next season he was in prison and the Falcons were in dire straits. Fast forward to last off season. The Eagles traded away their stud backup QB and handed Vick a giant contract. I do not forsee him in prison again anytime soon, but what happens to the Eagles when the man they put all of their faith into lets them down? Looks like Philly will be rebuilding soon and it looks like once again, Vick will be the catalyst for that.

SBXVII · 10-10-2011, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Stuck in TX

Its really crazy how history repeats itself....The Falcons traded away their stud backup QB and handed Vick a giant contract. The next season he was in prison and the Falcons were in dire straits. Fast forward to last off season. The Eagles traded away their stud backup QB and handed Vick a giant contract. I do not forsee him in prison again anytime soon, but what happens to the Eagles when the man they put all of their faith into lets them down? Looks like Philly will be rebuilding soon and it looks like once again, Vick will be the catalyst for that.

Or.... the team could look to build up it's OL to give Vick decent protection and more time for his WR's to get open. They could hire a DC that will work with what he's got or get more pieces to their puzzle the DC might need to fix his defense.

Ruhskins · 10-10-2011, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Stuck in TX

Its really crazy how history repeats itself....The Falcons traded away their stud backup QB and handed Vick a giant contract. The next season he was in prison and the Falcons were in dire straits. Fast forward to last off season. The Eagles traded away their stud backup QB and handed Vick a giant contract. I do not forsee him in prison again anytime soon, but what happens to the Eagles when the man they put all of their faith into lets them down? Looks like Philly will be rebuilding soon and it looks like once again, Vick will be the catalyst for that.

I wouldn't necessarily call Kolb a stud though, but other than that you're right on the money. Not to mention that Reid has been right down Vinny-esque with his offseason moves.

Stuck in TX · 10-10-2011, 11:33 AM

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I wouldn't necessarily call Kolb a stud though, but other than that you're right on the money. Not to mention that Reid has been right down Vinny-esque with his offseason moves.

Wouldnt call Schaub a stud either...I am using that word out of context. How about this, they are both QBs that the Falcons and Eagles are/were going to miss and perhaps cause/caused the fanbase to second guess front office moves.

And since I live in CO I feel the need say something about Tebow. The fans here are like rabid minks wanting Tebow to start. Orton is the butt of all the jokes, and if Jesus Christ himself were to walk on and go under center, he would be booed. Tebow has big play ability but lacks fundamentals. Remind you of anyone? *cough*Tony Romo*cough*. I forsee the Broncos winning some good games on some insane plays. The thing to watch, however, will be whether or not he revels in it and accepts his role, or commits to the film room and being a better QB.

SirClintonPortis · 10-10-2011, 12:32 PM

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Wouldnt call Schaub a stud either...I am using that word out of context. How about this, they are both QBs that the Falcons and Eagles are/were going to miss and perhaps cause/caused the fanbase to second guess front office moves.

And since I live in CO I feel the need say something about Tebow. The fans here are like rabid minks wanting Tebow to start. Orton is the butt of all the jokes, and if Jesus Christ himself were to walk on and go under center, he would be booed. Tebow has big play ability but lacks fundamentals. Remind you of anyone? *cough*Tony Romo*cough*. I forsee the Broncos winning some good games on some insane plays. The thing to watch, however, will be whether or not he revels in it and accepts his role, or commits to the film room and being a better QB.

Romo actually has very sound mechanics. As physical specimen, he is one of the top dogs. But mentally, the dude just can't get it together. Oh, and Romo loves throwing picks to the right side. Chris Horton knows.

If anything, Tebow compares better with Michael Vick.

htownskinfan · 10-10-2011, 10:20 AM

I dont see this as being on Vick,he's made a few mistakes but hes had dropped passes and richochets for int's and fumbles
It wouldnt surprise me a bit to see it all come together for them when they play us

hooskins · 10-10-2011, 10:40 AM

I dont know how recent this picture is, but doesn't have one here. He sure has enough hair to rock one if he wanted though.

http://www.bigleaguescrew.com/wp-con...o_ponytail.jpg

hooskins · 10-10-2011, 11:23 AM

From my understanding, the 49ers use 'Los in more zone coverages than he was used in here. Don't want to make any conclusions, but perhaps that has helped him with the INTs.

Can't rule out good fortune, low sample size and playing better either.

SBXVII · 10-10-2011, 11:26 AM

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From my understanding, the 49ers use 'Los in more zone coverages than he was used in here. Don't want to make any conclusions, but perhaps that has helped him with the INTs.

Can't rule out good fortune, low sample size and playing better either.

I don't know I always thought he was good Man-to-Man but sucked in Zone coverage which is where he would get beat every other play. Hall is more of a Zone coverage player but sucks Man-to-Man.

tryfuhl · 10-10-2011, 02:14 PM

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I don't know I always thought he was good Man-to-Man but sucked in Zone coverage which is where he would get beat every other play. Hall is more of a Zone coverage player but sucks Man-to-Man.

he was better in man when shutting down receivers but when he had a chance to come to the ball rather than have the ball come to him were the times that he got his few picks if I recall correctly

you'd also have to look at things like the safety play and whatnot to see if he's being put in a position to make less mistakes or reduce the cost of them

10-10-2011, 10:02 AM	#1
SBXVII Franchise Player Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 7,766	Re: Around the NFL Week 5 ^ I could be confusing the DL guy with the DC guy but if Ried would swallow some pride and make a few tweaks it could be fixed. The defense reminds me of last yrs Skins. Teams ran all over us and now with the right personell the Skins are a lot better. So I can see how the scheme might work for the DC next yr but if your looking to make the run this yr they need to change their mind set a little. Instead of getting gashed both through the air and on the ground they need to start stopping one of the two maybe the run and force teams to try through the air to beat them.

10-10-2011, 10:10 AM	#2
12thMan MVP Join Date: May 2005 Location: washington, D.C. Posts: 11,460	Re: Around the NFL Week 5 Thing is the Eagles have so much money tied between Nnamdi and Vick. And how big was Cullen Jenkins contract, Cromratie? I think they're going to have to work with what they got. And Trent Cole, when is he a FA?

10-10-2011, 10:13 AM	#5
hooskins Most Interesting Man in the World Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Chantilly, VA Age: 38 Posts: 8,606	Re: Around the NFL Week 5 The key has to be pressuring and hitting Vick. Also, I am sure Philly we start going back to more bootlegs and moving the pocket. Gotta keep that left-hand side on lock. __________________ Vacancy

10-10-2011, 10:17 AM	#6
Stuck in TX Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Colorado Springs, CO Age: 39 Posts: 545	Re: Around the NFL Week 5 Its really crazy how history repeats itself....The Falcons traded away their stud backup QB and handed Vick a giant contract. The next season he was in prison and the Falcons were in dire straits. Fast forward to last off season. The Eagles traded away their stud backup QB and handed Vick a giant contract. I do not forsee him in prison again anytime soon, but what happens to the Eagles when the man they put all of their faith into lets them down? Looks like Philly will be rebuilding soon and it looks like once again, Vick will be the catalyst for that. __________________ We will miss you Sean. RIP 1983-2007 REMEMBER VT Go Hokies

10-10-2011, 10:20 AM	#11
htownskinfan JUST LIVIN Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: houston,tx Age: 63 Posts: 4,929	Re: Around the NFL Week 5 I dont see this as being on Vick,he's made a few mistakes but hes had dropped passes and richochets for int's and fumbles It wouldnt surprise me a bit to see it all come together for them when they play us __________________ Make The Redskins Great Again

10-10-2011, 10:40 AM	#12
hooskins Most Interesting Man in the World Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Chantilly, VA Age: 38 Posts: 8,606	Re: Around the NFL Week 5 I dont know how recent this picture is, but doesn't have one here. He sure has enough hair to rock one if he wanted though. http://www.bigleaguescrew.com/wp-con...o_ponytail.jpg __________________ Vacancy

10-10-2011, 11:23 AM	#13
hooskins Most Interesting Man in the World Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Chantilly, VA Age: 38 Posts: 8,606	Re: Around the NFL Week 5 From my understanding, the 49ers use 'Los in more zone coverages than he was used in here. Don't want to make any conclusions, but perhaps that has helped him with the INTs. Can't rule out good fortune, low sample size and playing better either. __________________ Vacancy

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