Updated: Hightower Torn ACL/Moss Out 5-7 Weeks

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

TO's going to Tennesee...or so goes the rumor. Beside what do we have Paul, Hankerson, and Austin for?

I wondered if TO might be on the radar but giving the younger guys time makes more sense long run.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Im Not going to lie folks, maybe we really should look at T.O? I mean who else we got? AA has been AWOL this year which was to be expected and Gaffney is a number 2 at best, Fred Davis is our number 1 ATM.. Ouch

no. we drafted and added a ton of WR. Lets us play the young guys and get them some experience.

T.O.? Com'on Man!!!

[NC_Skins]

Royster activation in T-minus....5......4......3......2...

[NC_Skins]

All part of the "Suck for Luck" initiative. Muahahahah....I love it when a plan comes together.


J/K

[redsk1]

We need an Out For The Season Thread.

Hope Helu starts. I think we're in for some serious problems. I know I'm stating the obvious, but its going to be tough. Is that half of our starting offensive unit out?
Get Hankerson in there and get him some experience. Same goes for Helu, Austin.

[Ruhskins]

I don't understand why they don't run Torain between the tackles. I know we like to run the stretch runs (is that the name?) but I feel Helu would be better suited for those since he has more speed (well I feel Helu can do anything). Still, I think we should be fine with RBs, as long as our playcaller decides to run the ball.

[CrustyRedskin]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I don't understand why they don't run Torain between the tackles. I know we like to run the stretch runs (is that the name?) but I feel Helu would be better suited for those since he has more speed (well I feel Helu can do anything). Still, I think we should be fine with RBs, as long as our playcaller decides to run the ball.

Id run as far away from our oline as well!! I guess the strtch is as far as you can get!

[CRedskinsRule]

Time to see if any of the youth are ready. MS needs to encourage and get them all on board for the remainder of the season. Really looking forward to seeing who swims and who sinks.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Time to see if any of the youth are ready. MS needs to encourage and get them all on board for the remainder of the season. Really looking forward to seeing who swims and who sinks.

MS also needs to encourage the veterans. I'm glad to hear him talk about that today, but I'd like to see some results. All this "Shanahan is changing the culture" won't mean sh*t unless the team does a better job at playing well when a lot is at stake. In the past two weeks, I've seen just a half a$$ performance in two important games. Players have to do their part no doubt, but in the end the actions of a team is a reflection of their coach.

[DCtoAZ]

Torrain & Helu will be fine @ RB .. Total bummer for Hightower but we can survive that ... I was thinking today that maybe this is the time for Niles Paul to step up as a sleeper late round pick that blossoms. He seems to have a knack for plays along with Austin. Mix in Gaffney & Armstrong while basing your offense around pounding the rock & FRED DAVIS and things can be done. Season not over, but we are def fighting an up hill battle. Last 2 weeks sucked however the season will shake out this week in Toronto of all places. 4-3 and we roll the dice & see what happens. 3-4 and we are steamrolling the wrong way with a 3 game loosing streak.

[SFREDSKIN]

I look at the Moss and Hightower injuries as an opportunity to give Austin, Paul, Helu and Royster valuable experience. It would not surprise me to have all these guys step it up a notch.

[Alvin Walton]

I cant believe someone mentioned T.O.

gag me with a wooden wagon wheel

[SBXVII]

I think I was brave enough to suggest T.O. yesterday. Why? Moss is out 5-6 wks which I figured. Moss was our best WR. AA has had a ton of drops with Rex and it didn't change with Beck. Basically AA was our deep threat and Moss was our possession WR.

Gaffney has caught nothing long. Paul is only used for blocking. Austin could step up but why has it not happened previously? We need a possession WR, one who can keep defenses honest and one who will have to be accounted for by the defense to free up AA, Gaffney, Austin or whoever. I don't foresee Hankerson doing that or Stallworth.

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

I think I was brave enough to suggest T.O. yesterday. Why? Moss is out 5-6 wks which I figured. Moss was our best WR. AA has had a ton of drops with Rex and it didn't change with Beck. Basically AA was our deep threat and Moss was our possession WR.

Gaffney has caught nothing long. Paul is only used for blocking. Austin could step up but why has it not happened previously? We need a possession WR, one who can keep defenses honest and one who will have to be accounted for by the defense to free up AA, Gaffney, Austin or whoever. I don't foresee Hankerson doing that or Stallworth.

T.O's extra 400-600 yards and whatever TDs(possibly 3-4) this season would mean nothing to us this season if we don't get a ton of wins from him. Even if we add him, we're not really in contention for the Super Bowl. We are 3-3 now, and the addition of an aging WR with diminishing skills who does not know the playbook will not make us suddenly go 7-3, finish with a 10-6 record, and take us to the NFC Championship game, or even past the divisional round. You add T.O to increase your win total. I don't see him increasing it that much to be worth it. T.O will not save us from being stomped by one of the "real" contenders like Green Bay or New Orleans.

Those extras yards and touchdowns also do not rollover to the next season. He'll have to start from square one and outproduce Gaffney or Amstrong. That means better stats than either one of them.

Then, there's the matter that T.O is might be a lemon and thus might not better than what we have. His production has decreased(hasn't had a 1000 yard season since he was in Dallas) and he is coming off an ACL injury. His speed is not going to be what it was when he was 27 and he very well may not get that burst back until next season, if he ever does. A receiver with such limited athleticism will not be making a great impact for us.

T.O is well-known for his dropsies too. He even led the league in them in 2006. A drop machine can hardly be considered worthy of a possession receiver role, where sure hands are an absolute necessity.

With so many potential flaws, I see Terrence Austin as much better alternative. He has a rapport with Beck and does NOT drop the ball willy-nilly.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

T.O's extra 400-600 yards and whatever TDs(possibly 3-4) this season would mean nothing to us this season if we don't get a ton of wins from him. Even if we add him, we're not really in contention for the Super Bowl. We are 3-3 now, and the addition of an aging WR with diminishing skills who does not know the playbook will not make us suddenly go 7-3, finish with a 10-6 record, and take us to the NFC Championship game, or even past the divisional round. You add T.O to increase your win total. I don't see him increasing it that much to be worth it. T.O will not save us from being stomped by one of the "real" contenders like Green Bay or New Orleans.

Those extras yards and touchdowns also do not rollover to the next season. He'll have to start from square one and outproduce Gaffney or Amstrong. That means better stats than either one of them.

Then, there's the matter that T.O is might be a lemon and thus might not better than what we have. His production has decreased(hasn't had a 1000 yard season since he was in Dallas) and he is coming off an ACL injury. His speed is not going to be what it was when he was 27 and he very well may not get that burst back until next season, if he ever does. A receiver with such limited athleticism will not be making a great impact for us.

T.O is well-known for his dropsies too. He even led the league in them in 2006. A drop machine can hardly be considered worthy of a possession receiver role, where sure hands are an absolute necessity.

With so many potential flaws, I see Terrence Austin as much better alternative. He has a rapport with Beck and does NOT drop the ball willy-nilly.

Would you rather play with Moss or with out? Obviously with him. See while he's playing he opens up the field for AA or Gaffney or Stallworth to get open. Now that he's out 5-6 weeks there will be no one to take away the defenses attention so those other WR's can get open. We need someone who can replace Moss, ie; T.O. I'm not saying he needs to be put on deep routes or go routes, I'm simply saying the team could use him for the short to intermediate routes which would open up the deep field for AA or Gaffney because defenses would have to double up on T.O.

Funny that you mention he would not know the playbook or know which route to run when we have someone on the team right now who fits that mold ..... Hankerson. Plus he doesn't need to know the whole playbook, he just needs to know 10-20 plays.

I also was suprised how you mentioned T.O. drops passes all the time, have you not watched every week when AA drops passes? Gaffney? How about Davis who seems to drop his fair share of passes and thats not counting his tipped passes that lead to interceptions.

Worse case scenario T.O. comes in and plays just as bad as what we already have. Best case scenario is he comes in and catches a few passes. I think we all know this team is not going to the SB. But catching a few passes for 1st downs might help move the chains which might result in more opportunities for scores.