Smoot Lays The Smack Down (Redskins vs. 49ers) (Thread is Open)

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by mooby

I was simply taking the long way of saying, I concur.

/Also read like the first 2/3 of your post, then decided I got your point, then started working the response. Yeahhhhhhhhhh.

Proof that long sentences are simply not read in full. I must remember to keep them short. My professional writing class prof made it a big point to keep them short.

[skinsfan69]

The announcers pointed out that the safeties were playing 10 yards from the line. That's total disrespect to the opposing QB. I hate to say I was right about Beck but I was dead on. He's a bum. We all kinda wanted to believe in him based off his pre season games but that's what it is. Pre season. He had a good game and everyone wanted to crown the guy. A lot different when people actually start game planning. He can't read defenses, has no deep ball, is too quick to check the ball down and doesn't let plays develop, he's just awful and so are the Shanahan's for shoving this guy down the fans throats.

[#56fanatic]

I will start with "Beck sucks!"

I said from the beginning, benching Rex was a HUGE mistake. The team was 3-1, when he was benched against Philly. 3-2 when they named Beck the starter. 3-2, and the starter is benched. That was a knee jerk reaction and the offense hasn't looked like it has had any flow at all. Beck refuses to throw balls down the field, and holds on to it way too long. He had several throws deep yesterday and just didn't throw it. He doesn't seem to have good vision in the pocket at all. When team stack 10 people within 10 yards of the line of scrimmage, and you can't hit a couple or hell take a few shots down the field.....thats horrible. I dont think it was shannahan's play calling either because I saw receivers running down the field.

It is time to put Rex back in and see what he can do the rest of the season. I think HE gives us the best chance to win, not Beck.
As far as playing the younger guys, absolutely agree. Helu looked good all around. Would like to see him get 20 carries a game, but that wasn't happening yesterday. Hankerson looked solid.

Its going to be a process, which I think Shanahan should be given every opportunity to complete. He has had 1 1/2 years, that is way to short of a time to throw him under the bus. You need a few good drafts and offseasons to really get the talent to compete. He has done a good job of getting young talent, its time they play and get them the experience they need.

[GMScud]

I'm not reading 5 pages of this thread to see if it's been mentioned, but man I am so tired of Laron Freaking Landry. Getting into shouting matches before the game, wagging his finger and jawing after making a tackle on a 12 yard play that went for a first down....

Just shut your freaking trap man. You're not even that good right now.

Also, how funny is it that our longest offensive play was a mistake? Helu grabs that tipped ball out of the air and takes off for like 14 or 16 yards or whatever it was. Just pathetic.

And John Beck... ohhhh John Beck. You absolutely stink out loud like I've never seen. Jumpy in the pocket, terrible awareness, throws to guys that are covered when other guys are wide freaking open, if Justin Smith had hands Beck would have thrown a touchdown in the endzone, horribly inaccurate.... I could go on. He's god awful.

I firmly believe that if Beck stays the starter, we won't win another game. Not a single one.

[Meks]

Originally Posted by GMScud

I firmly believe that if Beck stays the starter, we won't win another game. Not a single one.

yes. and sadly regardless who starts Miami might trounces us next weekend

[Dirtbag59]

Nothing sums it up better then this statement from John Keim of the Examiner

1. Here’s what I like about Jim Harbaugh: He’s winning the way Washington should be, with a strong running game, an outstanding defense and a game manager at quarterback. They have what the Redskins don’t: something to hang their hat on. And even before the injuries, the Redskins did not want to play this way. They wanted to be an explosive offense without explosive talent. In less than half a season the 49ers have an established identity. The Redskins do not; even before the injuries that wasn’t the case. They’re 24 games in… and counting. Maybe they did want their identity to be an aggressive passing team. But it just seems San Francisco plays to its strengths while the Redskins play to what they wish their strength was. Schemes are terrific, but they don’t win titles. Playmakers in good schemes win titles. Using guys to their strengths matters, too. I’m certain that Mike Shanahan knows this; he knows the talent level was low. But when you put certain guys in certain spots, it’s also on you.

Read more at the Washington Examiner: Ten observations: Niners 19, Redskins 11 | John Keim | NFL | Washington Examiner

[CrazyCanuck]

Originally Posted by celts32

Rex is terrible...I never thought i would want him back in there but Beck is not even an NFL QB.

Agreed. With Grossman at the helm we are a bad NFL team. With Beck we're a bad high school team.

Not sure the solution. Watching Beck is very painful. Starting Rex we'll develop our WRs a little more and maybe win a game or two but winning isn't necessarily a good thing at this point.

Here's my plan... Run the wildcat every play and anytime we get to the other team's 40 bring on Gano for the 57-yarder...

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by CrazyCanuck

Agreed. With Grossman at the helm we are a bad NFL team. With Beck we're a bad high school team.

Not sure the solution. Watching Beck is very painful. Starting Rex we'll develop our WRs a little more and maybe win a game or two but winning isn't necessarily a good thing at this point.

Here's my plan... Run the wildcat every play and anytime we get to the other team's 40 bring on Gano for the 57-yarder...

Before this you are going to need to lock up Kyle Shanahan somewhere so he doesn't call the plays.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

Nothing sums it up better then this statement from John Keim of the Examiner



Read more at the Washington Examiner: Ten observations: Niners 19, Redskins 11 | John Keim | NFL | Washington Examiner

Yup. Perfect summary there.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

Nothing sums it up better then this statement from John Keim of the Examiner



Read more at the Washington Examiner: Ten observations: Niners 19, Redskins 11 | John Keim | NFL | Washington Examiner

Meanwhile...

Shanahan had a game manager on the roster (or could have gotten a game manager via free agency), yet chose to trade for a washed up veteran that couldn't even be a game manager.

He took an established defense, blew it up (creating more holes on the roster) and implemented a new scheme.

Finally, he took a run-first team and turn it into a pass-first team. The problem (like with the defensive overhaul) is that we didn't (and still don't) have the talent or players to run such a scheme.

I guess I need to realize that last year was a complete waste and this is rebuilding year #1.

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Meanwhile...

Shanahan had a game manager on the roster (or could have gotten a game manager via free agency), yet chose to trade for a washed up veteran that couldn't even be a game manager.

He took an established defense, blew it up (creating more holes on the roster) and implemented a new scheme.

Finally, he took a run-first team and turn it into a pass-first team. The problem (like with the defensive overhaul) is that we didn't (and still don't) have the talent or players to run such a scheme.

I guess I need to realize that last year was a complete waste and this is rebuilding year #1.

I feel like I've said the before. The trade for Beck involved a training camp scrub.We put the guy back on the PS later that year. We haven't heard of Doug Dutch since.

[REDSKINS4ever]

It's time for Mike Shanahan to stop making excuses for Beck. If John Beck doesn't put together his first solid game, we'll see Rex Grossman again somewhere down the line. But Beck is Mike Shanahan's handpicked guy. Beck is the QB that Shanahan had so much blind faith in this past off season that they didn't even select not one QB in the NFL draft and didn't acquire a QB through free agency. Now, after three straight starts we have to asks, how is Beck working out?

Beck rushes his reads. He overthrows wide open receivers. While he doesn't make poor decisions with the football a lot, he holds on to the ball for too long. His scrambling ability is decent, but from a scale from one to 10, Beck is definitely a 3 based on what I've seen of him against the Panthers, Bills, and 49ers.

[skinsfaninok]

The whole organization as a whole I could care less anymore honestly

[53Fan]

Receivers were getting open and Beck didn't even seem to notice or was afraid to throw for any distance. That's pretty bad. Really bad. Banks is now having trouble fielding the ball and seems to be getting worse instead of better. I agree with Mooby about the TW call. First thing I thought when I saw the replay was Smith is effing with Hurt because he's a rookie.

[skinsfaninok]

TW was just trying to get his teammates back but whatever it's not like that play made us lose, we can't ****ing score against air in practice I hate this offense and have for years now, different QB, different OC all the time and same result