Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Dolphins)

[CultBrennan59]

I just watch skins games now for the humor part and the 'ooh called it' parts of the game. Example redskins in Miami's territory 10 yards away from scoring.
Me: watch, rex is going to throw a pick here.

(Rex drops back with lots of time and throws a pick to Karlos Dansby)

Me: HAHAHa ha...ooh god we suck, and are so predictable.

[skinsfaninok]

Mike Shanahan - yes because he wanted these 2 QBs and didn't draft a rookie after having a chance at Dalton in the 2nd.. What a sad joke

Rex Grossman- Dude you make some good throws until it's time to actually score then u **** it all up over and over.

Defense - played ok but too many holes in the secondary and I thought that would b a strong point.

Kyle again- 3rd and 2 and u don't run ? Speechless

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Mike Shanahan - yes because he wanted these 2 QBs and didn't draft a rookie after having a chance at Dalton in the 2nd.. What a sad joke

Rex Grossman- Dude you make some good throws until it's time to actually score then u **** it all up over and over.

Defense - played ok but too many holes in the secondary and I thought that would b a strong point.

Kyle again- 3rd and 2 and u don't run ? Speechless

We came thiiiiiis close to Locker, which would have made me happy, but then no Kerrigan and company. Could have gotten someone like Stanzi though I suppose

The whole Beck thing confuses me

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

We came thiiiiiis close to Locker, which would have made me happy, but then no Kerrigan and company. Could have gotten someone like Stanzi though I suppose

The whole Beck thing confuses me

I get not drafting a QB in this draft, didn't like the class much. Dalton had some questions with arm strength, level of competition etc. I don't think anyone expected him to perform so well.

The Beck thing seems like a matter of Daddy and Jr. trying to work together as co-OCs rather than having a unified direction. Daddy is Zone run, PA. Jr. is spread & throw. Daddy liked Beck, Rex is Jr's guy. When Rex was crapping himself, Daddy said let's give Beck a shot. Problem is (as we found out), Beck is a better fit for Daddy's system, not Jr's. What we also found out is that Daddy appears to be committed to Jr's system even if we continue to stick circle pegs in square holes. What needs to happen is Daddy should take control and essentially make Jr as postion coach (QBs) and call the plays himslef. Jr needs to sit back and learn the run/PA game and when we have a QB, then you can open up and let Jr have his headset back.

Bottom line, with no QB, Jr's system won't work. Plus, I believe power run mixed w/PA & balanced passing is the way to go in the NFC East. I don't want to say "suck for Luck", I think Indy has that locked....but my feeling is Rex is back in because he's the best option in-house to execute Jr's system so the young guys can get prepared for next year....when we hopefully have a QB.

Rebuilding is tough, but it is what it is. That being said, if we're in the same boat this time next year, I think Daddy & Jr are out.

And I'll throw this out too, if we're in the same boat this time next year for the money DS is paying the coaching staff (particularly the HC). You give me half that amount, and I guarantee I'd have a young, hungry staff in 30 days that could field a competitive team with the players in-house.

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

The Beck thing seems like a matter of Daddy and Jr. trying to work together as co-OCs rather than having a unified direction. Daddy is Zone run, PA. Jr. is spread & throw. Daddy liked Beck, Rex is Jr's guy. When Rex was crapping himself, Daddy said let's give Beck a shot. Problem is (as we found out), Beck is a better fit for Daddy's system, not Jr's. What we also found out is that Daddy appears to be committed to Jr's system even if we continue to stick circle pegs in square holes. What needs to happen is Daddy should take control and essentially make Jr as postion coach (QBs) and call the plays himslef. Jr needs to sit back and learn the run/PA game and when we have a QB, then you can open up and let Jr have his headset back.

I'm not sure if Beck is a fit for any NFL caliber system. He just can't process the info fast enough to play in this league, regardless of his physical skills .

[REDSKINS4ever]

Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

I'm not sure if Beck is a fit for any NFL caliber system. He just can't process the info fast enough to play in this league, regardless of his physical skills .

I think Beck can play. He just can't go four years without taking a snap and expect to play well once he's given an opportunity. There's no logical or rational explanation for Mike Shanahan to place a QB atop the depth chart who hasn't started nor even played in a game since 2007. That alone tells me that Mike Shanahan doesn't truly know how to evaluate quarterbacks like he says he does. And add the inconsistent Rex Grossman to compete with Beck for the starting job in preseason/training camp, and you have an offense going absolutely nowhere.

And why in the hell didn't Mike Shanahan keep Kellen Clemens? At least Clemens, unlike John Beck, has wins in the NFL as a starting QB.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

I'm not sure if Beck is a fit for any NFL caliber system. He just can't process the info fast enough to play in this league, regardless of his physical skills .

Agree, but with his mobility in a run/PA system it would help limit how bad he sucks.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Mike Shanahan - yes because he wanted these 2 QBs and didn't draft a rookie after having a chance at Dalton in the 2nd.. What a sad joke

Rex Grossman- Dude you make some good throws until it's time to actually score then u **** it all up over and over.

Defense - played ok but too many holes in the secondary and I thought that would b a strong point.

Kyle again- 3rd and 2 and u don't run ? Speechless

Why do people keep saying we had a chance at Dalton?? I've read that over and over. Dalton was taken with the 35th pick in the second round and we had the 41st pick. The plan clearly was never to package some sort of deal to move up -- they wanted to maximize their selections or trade down to get more. Yes, Dalton sure looks better than anything we have now -- but here's the key point: Dalton has some semblance of a supporting cast around him. Dalton would be running for his life with no running game and no one to throw to if he was here.

As far as Kyle's playcalling goes, I seem to remember several runs going for less than 2 yards. Apart from a couple of draw plays by Helu late in the game, it didn't look to me like they were capable of getting yardage on the ground when they needed it. But people just won't give up bashing the offensive coordinator for the line's inability to run block...

[Chico23231]

Sean Locklear and Mo Hurt are just terrible.

Torain is done

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Sean Locklear and Mo Hurt are just terrible.

Torain is done

Little harsh on Hurt I'd say. Second career start for a 7th round pick facing a HOF in Jason Taylor.

Locklear has been a disappointment.

Torain is way too inconsistent

[IrMitchell]

Hankerson.... :cheeky-sm

[mooby]

Originally Posted by IrMitchell

Hankerson.... :cheeky-sm

Please, elaborate.

[IrMitchell]

Originally Posted by mooby

Please, elaborate.

I thought it was all there.. I'm happy he was involved.

[#56fanatic]

Regarding the posts of playcalling :

Kyle Shannahan ran a very potent attack in Houston, so I dont believe the issue is playcalling. The issue is the horses he has running the plays. Now, some may say he'd curtail his calls to what they do best. Well, find something this group does best is the questions i pose.

Regarding the Torain is worthless comments

He was injured in training camp, all along coming in as the unquestioned #1 back based on his performance last year. All of the sudden he's at #3 on the depth chart. Now he plays a game, sits a game, plays a game... Its hard for a running back, especially in this system to gain any sort of rhythm. I have seen torain run, and he runs quite well in this system. He is young and I would hate to give up on him. I guess the question is Hightower, Helu, Torain.. which two do you keep?

Rex -

Not alot you can say.. He obviously isnt' our future, but he is our present. He made some good throws and I thought overall our offense looked better than it had the previous 3 games. THe interceptions...1st one Hankerson fell down. the 2nd one, I keep playing it back in my brain, and I just keep seeing the receiver running behind the LB on that play. Why he didn't come infront of him I dont know. Either way, a pass that shouldn't have been thrown. I think Rex is definitely pressing in this game. We have to get the run game working. If it works, Rex becomes more effective with deep balls, and stretch roll outs, boots and so on.

Defensively -

I am baffled. Why our corners consistantly play so far off the receivers every damn down. Hall just about gives up 5 and 10 yard completions like nothing. Why when we blitz are our corners not on the line of scrimmage pressing the receivers?? That freaking kills me. At this point, we have nothing to lose, I would be extremely aggressive on the Defensive side of the ball, try to create turnovers because our offense is terrible at getting points on the board.

[skinsfaninok]

Oh and I'm laying the smackdown on us fans for clowning Carlos Rogers because he's playing like a pro bowler in SF... Of course he would isn't that the skins luck?