The "Inside Word" on the QB Search

[celts32]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Although I seem to be the only one here arguing for grabbing Tannehill or Jones at #6, this is why. I would not trade back any later than #8. Otherwise the Fins or Seahawks may grab our guy, thus meaning we've missed our guy for the second straight year. Reach be damned - get your guy.

Amen! I am so sick of the lets get cute attitude with the most important fkn position in the sport!

[redsk1]

Anyone familiar w/ Russell Wilson?

I think this guy can play in the NFL and play well. He's projected as a 4th/5th. The knock is his size. He's mobile, shifty, very accurate, and smart.

We could do worse w/ a 4th/5th rounder. Hopefully, we'll take a QB before then though.

[celts32]

Would love to end up with Bradford and Clausen.

[Ruhskins]

I think it would be great if we were to get Bradford. If we were to get him with just the first rounder, we can use the second round pick to get an interior lineman.

[SBXVII]

I think Beck and Crompton both need to be cut, let go, fire..D.

I don't want Grossman to start but if he has to until the next QB is up to speed then fine.

I'd look for whatever FA QB's were available to challenge Grossman. Perfect world we get a FA QB, and get to keep out 1st round pick to take a #1 WR like Blackmon or whoever, then take a QB in the second round to try to develope. Then the rest of the draft could be used on FS or CB and OL.

[T.O.Killa]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

There have been a lot of names floating around re: the next Redskins QB so I thought I'd just take a moment here to sort of refresh the discussion and summarize what I've heard.

Reminder: This is only about what I've heard. And remember things change. Also, this isn't about some of the later round prospects they have been scouting like Harnish or Dominique Davis

Current QBs

Rex Grossman: They've been working on a 1-2 year deal, but talks have stalled. But that may be because both sides decided to just hold off further talk until the offseason. I know there are other teams that have expressed interest in Rex (to the surprise of many I'm sure) as a veteran backup.

John Beck: Gone, but don't be too surprised if he stays through most of training camp. Particularly if Grossman goes elsewhere

Jonathan Crompton: Likely gone

Free Agents (only those who have been linked to the Redskins):

Kyle Orton: I'm actually not totally sure he's a FA, but the Redskins aren't likely to pursue him. Have heard the Jets are a possibility for KO

Matt Flynn: I know his name is the hot name being tossed around and everyone is connecting him to the Redskins. But I haven't had one legit source tell me there is true interest. Maybe there is, but from all I've heard it sure doesn't sound like it

Josh Johnson: Interest, but not as a starter.

Brian Hoyer: He's Restricted, but he's a potential sleeper. Papa Shanahan likes him (I can't speak for Junior). But he might be someone to keep an eye on.

Peyton Manning: None that I've heard of

Trades:

Jimmy Clausen: Very possible if the Panthers decide to move him. Redskins won't offer higher than a conditional 5th and he wouldn't be brought in to be the unquestioned starter. Skins have been monitoring Clausen situation since last spring when Panthers took Cam.

Mark Sanchez: Rumor was smoking hot three weeks ago but has died down a bit. Not as likely to happen anymore

Sam Bradford: This is probably choice #1. To figure out some way to get Bradford without giving up both their 1st and 2nd this year. No one knows that the new Rams regime is going to do, but Redskins are definitely keeping tabs on what happens there because if they can get Bradford they'll likely do just about "whatever it takes" to get him. Which is interesting, because they didn't want to 2 years ago. Though now "whatever it takes" is probably much less

Colt McCoy: Have not heard of any legit Redskins interest in him.

Draft:

Andrew Luck: As of right now, it doesn't look like they are seriously considering trading up for him

RGIII. Not to be confused with this RGIII. They like him a lot, though I don't think more than Luck as has been reported here, but they probably won't move up to get him.

Landry Jones: Chris Russell (ESPN 980 Redskins Beat Reporter) says the Skins have zero interest in LJ. But I've heard otherwise many times. If they're going to "reach" for anyone at 6, don't be too surprised if it's Jones. This is all assuming he declares. Kyle is the one who likes him. Well, let me specify Kyle seemingly prefers Jones to Tannehill (though both father and son like both), sees him as having much of the same qualities Schaub has.

Ryan Tannehill: See Jones. Though honestly I think they're more likely to take Jones at 6 than Tannehill. Feeling is Jones can start now, Tannehill may need a little more time

Nick Foles: 2nd round possibility, won't move up for him.

Kirk Cousins/Ryan Lindley: 3rd round possibilities

Brandon Weeden: No...not that I've heard

So I think Plan A is make a run for Sam Bradford and possibly add someone like a Jimmy Clausen/Brian Hoyer. Though Hoyer may cost too much to not start him. Bradford and Clausen! Could you imagine, how silly would that be. Plan B is draft a Jones/Tannehill and someone like Grossman or Josh Johnson is the veteran/transition QB.

My gut prediction as of today...Landry Jones (I know I've been saying Tannehill but I'm honestly going back and forth on the two) and Rex returns as the backup.

My gut prediction is Matt Flynn. I think the Shannahans have to win next season or it is curtains. I hate to say it, but I think it will end up costing the Redskins a 2nd, possibly a first round draft choice. The Packers will franchise him. They probably never considered it till now, but after Sunday there will be legitimate interest in him. Seatle, Cleveland, the Redskins and Miami. It will come down to Cleveland and the Redskins. Thats my take. What I hate about it is that the Redskins will end up giving draft choices up to get him.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by T.O.Killa

My gut prediction is Matt Flynn. I think the Shannahans have to win next season or it is curtains. I hate to say it, but I think it will end up costing the Redskins a 2nd, possibly a first round draft choice. The Packers will franchise him.

They are going to franchise their TE, not Flynn. The Skins aren't even interested in Flynn.

Packers' Raji gets more out of playing less - JSOnline

No progress: Tight end Jermichael Finley, who is in the final year of his contract, said it was his understanding there had been no recent talks between his agent and the team.

The Packers are expected to place the franchise tag of about $5.5 million on Finley in March if the sides can't agree on a long-term deal.

"If they do, it's something I've got to work through and talk it out," Finley said.

[T.O.Killa]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

They are going to franchise their TE, not Flynn. The Skins aren't even interested in Flynn.

Packers' Raji gets more out of playing less - JSOnline

They were going to franchise thier TE. Now they can draft one with the pick they recieve, or just sign him. Matt Flynn is going to bring a first or second round pick. Maybe we end up trading our first for thiers. Maybe we are not even players. But I have heard two former Gm's say they would give a first for him if they were the Redskins.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by T.O.Killa

They were going to franchise thier TE. Now they can draft one with the pick they recieve, or just sign him. Matt Flynn is going to bring a first or second round pick. Maybe we end up trading our first for thiers. Maybe we are not even players. But I have heard two former Gm's say they would give a first for him if they were the Redskins.

Anybody that would give up a first rounder for Flynn is a ****ing idiot. Vinny is no longer a GM so I seriously doubt any would. If these guys actually said they would give up a first rounder for Flynn, I can see why they are "former" GMs.


Also, nobody is going to pay Flynn a 16million dollar salary if he's franchised either. Not going to happen.

[T.O.Killa]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Anybody that would give up a first rounder for Flynn is a ****ing idiot. Vinny is no longer a GM so I seriously doubt any would. If these guys actually said they would give up a first rounder for Flynn, I can see why they are "former" GMs.


Also, nobody is going to pay Flynn a 16million dollar salary if he's franchised either. Not going to happen.

You are wrong. There is only a few peolpe in the world that ever get to be GMs. There is never more than 32 at any given time, and there are 7 billion people in the world. His cap figure would be 14 million. His contract would be re-negotiated prior to anyone giving anything. Good QBs are more rare than GM's. There are only ten in 7 billion. As much as we hate Rex Grossman, he is the 28 th best quarterback in the world. I am going to post the last ten years of first round quarterbacks taken so you can see how few really succeed.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by T.O.Killa

My gut prediction is Matt Flynn. I think the Shannahans have to win next season or it is curtains. I hate to say it, but I think it will end up costing the Redskins a 2nd, possibly a first round draft choice. The Packers will franchise him. They probably never considered it till now, but after Sunday there will be legitimate interest in him. Seatle, Cleveland, the Redskins and Miami. It will come down to Cleveland and the Redskins. Thats my take. What I hate about it is that the Redskins will end up giving draft choices up to get him.

I didn't see him play, however the media is a buz right now about him. My worry would be him coming here and performing like Kolb did in Arizona. I'm not saying he's not going to be good I'm saying he's been in a system for a couple or few yrs and knows the system. He comes here he might not fair well the 1st yr or might not live up to some peoples expectations of making the play offs or fire everyone.

I agree I think next year will be a deciding factor for Shanahan even though I don't think it should be. I'd give MS his whole 5 yrs while showing faithfulness and patience and willing to keep continuity before I'd bail after yr 3 and bring in another HC.

Maybe I'm just the only one who is seeing improvement, the team getting younger, the players understanding the scheme better, the run plays starting to come together better, a defense that had more sacks and INT's in this scheme vs. the 4-3 scheme we used. Add a couple offensive weapons (QB, WR) and a couple defensive weapons (FS, CB) and players coming back healthy then I can see this team doing better.

[Big C]

really hoping that landry jones doesnt end up here. if we do happen do get him, i hope we trade down and select him rather than reach big time at 6.

[skinsfaninok]

Latest word in Norman is Landry is still undecided and is leaning on staying atOU

[Dirtbag59]

Thanks Smoot. Nice to have all this in one place. Personally Landry Jones doesn't seem like a bad choice. No reaching. No durability concerns. Extremely accurate. Not super smart, but definitely has a mind for the game. Arm strong enough to make all the throws.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

Thanks Smoot. Nice to have all this in one place. Personally Landry Jones doesn't seem like a bad choice. No reaching. No durability concerns. Extremely accurate. Not super smart, but definitely has a mind for the game. Arm strong enough to make all the throws.

He's one of the coolest dudes you'll meet, I work with the team every home game and he's always carried conversations with me unlike some of the "Star" players. Sam and A.D were nice guys too