O-Line Edition: Free Agency and the Draft

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

I don't know why but I have this ominous feeling of us drafting a CB or a LB with our 3rd round pick this year. Maybe even a TE.

Nah, Kicker.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

Nah, Kicker.

lol there is that Punter from LSU

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

I don't know why but I have this ominous feeling of us drafting a CB or a LB with our 3rd round pick this year. Maybe even a TE.

Dwight Bentley?, Mychael Kendricks?, LaDarius Green?

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by 30gut

lol there is that Punter from LSU

Brad Wing.

[That Guy]

well, randy moss was 300% as productive with tom brady vs w/ with oakland had... if you have a great QB, any WR is going to look a lot better. RGIII is going to have a lot of say in whether garcon is looked back upon as a good or bad signing.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by That Guy

well, randy moss was 300% as productive with tom brady vs w/ with oakland had... if you have a great QB, any WR is going to look a lot better. RGIII is going to have a lot of say in whether garcon is looked back upon as a good or bad signing.

Exactly. If I had to put a number on it I'd say that for most receivers the QB and play calling is at least 50% responsible for a receivers production. Most likely even more then that. You can have a receiver with all the talent in the world but unless he has a good QB and an offensive system that allows him to get open theres a good chance of said receiver underacheiving. Only the Calvin Johnson's of the world can make anyone look good and they are very very very very very VERY few and far between.

With Griffin at the healm we might find that we're going from "all the receivers we get end up sucking" to "man receivers are a dime a dozen."

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

Exactly. If I had to put a number on it I'd say that for most receivers the QB and play calling is at least 50% responsible for a receivers production. Most likely even more then that. You can have a receiver with all the talent in the world but unless he has a good QB and an offensive system that allows him to get open theres a good chance of said receiver underacheiving. Only the Calvin Johnson's of the world can make anyone look good and they are very very very very very VERY few and far between.

With Griffin at the healm we might find that we're going from "all the receivers we get end up sucking" to "man receivers are a dime a dozen."

well, i don't know if you followed CJ, but watching reggie ball throw to him at GT was pretty god awful. and yet, he still helped get reggie drafted.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

Exactly. If I had to put a number on it I'd say that for most receivers the QB and play calling is at least 50% responsible for a receivers production. Most likely even more then that. You can have a receiver with all the talent in the world but unless he has a good QB and an offensive system that allows him to get open theres a good chance of said receiver underacheiving. Only the Calvin Johnson's of the world can make anyone look good and they are very very very very very VERY few and far between.

With Griffin at the healm we might find that we're going from "all the receivers we get end up sucking" to "man receivers are a dime a dozen."

All depends how you define WR production. If it's just by yards and catches, then it's probably a lot more than 50% dependent on the QB and offensive scheme. Any fantasy football player knows to avoid a quality receiver who is working with a limited passing game.

Receiver stats are pretty advanced though within the last ten years, thanks to details in the NFL gamebooks that weren't there before 2000.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

All depends how you define WR production. If it's just by yards and catches, then it's probably a lot more than 50% dependent on the QB and offensive scheme. Any fantasy football player knows to avoid a quality receiver who is working with a limited passing game.

Receiver stats are pretty advanced though within the last ten years, thanks to details in the NFL gamebooks that weren't there before 2000.

I agree, I was just using 50% as a conservative estimate.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Isn't Beck under contract for a few milllion? Why in the world are they keeping him on the roster? At this point he's totally useless.

I imagine he is gone if cap room is needed for Fletcher(if beck even provides cap relief) but he is a camp body at this point to be cut at the altar of the true RGIII.

(Lotus, I will never again refer to Griffen that way but love the name play between the false prophet RGIII(Rexy) and the true one)

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I imagine he is gone if cap room is needed for Fletcher(if beck even provides cap relief) but he is a camp body at this point to be cut at the altar of the true RGIII.

(Lotus, I will never again refer to Griffen that way but love the name play between the false prophet RGIII(Rexy) and the true one)

Love the word play!

Also, I just made a suggestion. I'm not the "Griffin" police.

[30gut]

Good news for the OL watchers:

Bryan Brackney ‏ @bryanbrackney
Demetrius Bell has narrowed his choices between the Redskins and Bills.

Bryan Brackney ‏ @bryanbrackney
@TimAdams_Skins1 Redskins (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...tXHS_blog.html) and Bills (Redirect Notice). Cardinals have dropped out after re-signing LT L. Brown

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by 30gut

Good news for the OL watchers:

Bryan Brackney ‏ @bryanbrackney
Demetrius Bell has narrowed his choices between the Redskins and Bills.

Bryan Brackney ‏ @bryanbrackney
@TimAdams_Skins1 Redskins (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...tXHS_blog.html) and Bills (Redirect Notice). Cardinals have dropped out after re-signing LT L. Brown

I wouldn't mind seeing Bell here. I would be fine with going into the season with Bell as the starting RT and Brown as a backup.

[REDSKINS4ever]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I wouldn't mind seeing Bell here. I would be fine with going into the season with Bell as the starting RT and Brown as a backup.

Jamaal Brown, according to Mike Shahanan, has to prove that he can stay healthy. He's making entirely too much money to be a back up. Unless Brown restructures his contract to that of a random back up, expect him to be either released or perhaps traded. He's either a starter or he's on the waive wire.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by REDSKINS4ever

Jamaal Brown, according to Mike Shahanan, has to prove that he can stay healthy. He's making entirely too much money to be a back up. Unless Brown restructures his contract to that of a random back up, expect him to be either released or perhaps traded. He's either a starter or he's on the waive wire.

Sounds right to me. Yet it's also perplexing...I can't really think of a time when Brown looked like a bona fide starting RT during his time in DC?