O-Line and ST questions

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Jeez, since when did we start needing offensive line help?

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

In defense of Aprius, Dockery isn't a quality starting left guard. All too often, I see Dockery get beat on the pass rush, seemingly miss blocking assignments, and get called for false starts.

However, Dockery is developing and I don't think the coaching staff wanted to get rid of him just yet. Dockery certainly improved his play over 2003, but that doesn't say much of anything. Dockery could turn out to be a good starter, but he's not there yet. I think that's why Dockery wasn't replaced.

So, I understand why people might want an upgrade at left guard - with the addition of Rabach, he's certainly the worst offensive lineman on a good line But, I understand why the coaching staff didn't replace him.

[jrocx69]

first off, gragg is a well known player to whoever hasnt heard of him, BUT, he would be another Dave Fiore, and not play most of the season with a hefty contract. AND WHY SIGN VERBA?? WHY? HE'S A OT, NOT A OG. and as people have already stated, we have samuels and jansen as our tackles. ray brown is more than capable of playing LG for us 1 more season if dockery cant handle the load. and dockery would be a good back up. remember, browns original position is OG, the last 10 or so years. Samuels,Dockery,Rabach,Thomas,Jansen...the talent is there and about 30% of our cap...so what makes you think we need to hand out millions for another O-lineman? we dont.

[aprius]

Originally Posted by jrocx69

first off, gragg is a well known player to whoever hasnt heard of him, BUT, he would be another Dave Fiore, and not play most of the season with a hefty contract. AND WHY SIGN VERBA?? WHY? HE'S A OT, NOT A OG. and as people have already stated, we have samuels and jansen as our tackles. ray brown is more than capable of playing LG for us 1 more season if dockery cant handle the load. and dockery would be a good back up. remember, browns original position is OG, the last 10 or so years. Samuels,Dockery,Rabach,Thomas,Jansen...the talent is there and about 30% of our cap...so what makes you think we need to hand out millions for another O-lineman? we dont.

Whoa! Smoking something arent we?
Look at the thread title....
Dockery(G) and Verba(T) are O-line players and I have questions about both....
therefore....
can you put 2 and 2 together....
O-Line questions!!!!!
Hard to figure out....Jeez!
I know what position Dockery and Verba play but I figured anyone with a tiny bit of sense could interpret the meaning of my questions.
I am amazed how many people dont think about the title.
Brown is old and his body may give out this year or next....no one can say....but he is not going to be around long. (not at 42 or 43) He probably wont be able to take the day in day out pounding if Dockery goes down early in the season.
Dockery is a very good backup but was not a good starter last year.
Huge difference in starting and backing up.

[PSUSkinsFan21]

Sorry Tafkas, I submitted the message before seeing your post. I just don't like the tone he was using with the other members of this board and myself.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Daaaaamn. Testosteron-y!

[PSUSkinsFan21]

Sorry MC, but did you see his response to jrocx69? Totally uncalled for.

Not to mention numerous members of this board have tried explaining to this kid that OT and OG are different positions, but he doesn't seem to understand that. Apparently anbody who plays on the line is an "o-lineman" and therefore completely interchangeable........news to me. Maybe somebody should call Buges and let him know too.

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by PSUSkinsFan21

Sorry MC, but did you see his response to jrocx69? Totally uncalled for.

Not to mention numerous members of this board have tried explaining to this kid that OT and OG are different positions, but he doesn't seem to understand that. Apparently anbody who plays on the line is an "o-lineman" and therefore completely interchangeable........news to me. Maybe somebody should call Buges and let him know too.

Yeah he seems a little high on the horse but in the end he could be right about our o-line. I just don't think he is clearly right at the moment. Only time will tell.

[backrow]

Sam, Dock, Rabach, Thomas, and Jansen are all ok to great. If Aprius point is that we need depth, we have Wilson, Molinaro, 92 yr. old R. Brown, Friedman, and all! Probably a couple of our own NFLE or FAs already on the roster may make it over Brown. The position I felt was most suspect, was Brown! But we have Jansen back!

I feel we have fewer questions on the OL than as does Aprius, apparently.

On the S. Taylor situation, we cannot lower his salary. Period. End of subject.

[FRPLG]

I love the smell of napalm in he morning. Smells like...like...victory.

[Redskins8588]

I understand the knock against Brown being his age, but the way I understand it, or atleast the way I read it on the WashingtonPost when Brown re-signed, was that the coaching staff is grooming him to eventually become an assistant O-line coach. So yeah Brown is old and not really the ideal player one would want on the field but if he has value to teach and help the younger players then I agree that we should keep him...

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Basically I feel to sum up the original questions: Why we haven't gone after the other two top free agent tackles is another question of economics and need. Verba is exactly what aprius says he is, a starter at tackle. We don't need someone sucking those resources up just to sit the bench. Would I want him if another Jansen-accident happened? Of course. I'd rather take the chance now, rather than pay for it in more ways than one later.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

And I'm not directing testosteron-y to one person in particular, I was just pointed out that the dong-swinging has gotten mighty dangerous in here.

[MTK]

I can see this thread is going nowhere. Time to throw away the key on this one.