Grade the Draft ... 2009 style

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by mooby

Orakpo has been the only one worth a damn so far. I think he'd be better off as a DE in a 4-3, but nobody foresaw the 3-4 coming. With that said he's still a valuable contributor in a 3-4. Nobody else in that class worth mentioning, and that's not suprising. Anybody want to do this with the 2008 draft? I'd shudder to think what our grade in that draft is now. Fred Davis and Reed Doughty are the only ones left from that one, and half the fans here hate Doughty.

I beleive Reed came in the 2006 draft.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by mredskins

I beleive Reed came in the 2006 draft.

You're right, I was thinking of Kareem Moore.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by mooby

You're right, I was thinking of Kareem Moore.

God I feel like Reed has been here since the dawn of time.

[jamf]

If Orakpo was on GB, he would lead the league in sacks and could be in the running for defensive player of the year.
Matthews is good but benefits greatly from playing on a much better defense.

[Bubba305-ST21-]

Originally Posted by jamf

If Orakpo was on GB, he would lead the league in sacks and could be in the running for defensive player of the year.
Matthews is good but benefits greatly from playing on a much better defense.

i agree completely, hopefully pretty soon he will be putting up similar numbers as our defense improves, hes got the ability.

[sportscurmudgeon]

Originally Posted by jamf

If Orakpo was on GB, he would lead the league in sacks and could be in the running for defensive player of the year.
Matthews is good but benefits greatly from playing on a much better defense.

Green Bay's defense in 2011 was one of the five WORST defenses in the league.

The objective fact is that after three years of NFL football, Matthews is a better OLB than is Orakpo. That may change over the course of their careers, but for now...

This is NOT to diminish in any way the fact that Brian Orakpo is an excellent OLB and one that the Redskins cannot afford to lose.

[HailGreen28]

I think you guys are too kind. That draft looks like one great pick and a bunch of bench fodder, to me.

[mlmpetert]

This is a really awesome review, thanks for the insight Joe. I was just wondering what Cody Glenn was up to the other day. I think he was the biggest reach of that draft considering limited experience and conversion to a LB, but as you point out no LB really sticks out in the 3rd round.

Marko Mitchell was my faviort player of our 2009 draft but i think he is pretty much out of football at this point. Maybe we released Gaffney to pick him back up?

Also, while not drafted, Chase Dainels was a rookie signing that year. He already has 1 superbowl.

[mlmpetert]

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...gton-redskins/

Not trying to hijack or nothin, but this is a short recent review of 08, 09 and 10.

[That Guy]

great info - thanks!

and i agree, i wasn't super happy about that draft at the time, but i felt like rak was basically the safest pick in the entire draft, and i was really glad we got him (his measureables, stats, etc pre-draft were all exactly what you'd want to see in a productive DE with absolutely nothing missing, though nothing crazy either like 4.4 40s).

since pass rushers seem to bust about 50% of the time, even early, safe is GOOD.

and reed HAS been here forever. we got him round 6 pick 4 and it was a steal to get a 120 tackle/year guy that late (ncaa high stat guys (over multiple years) tend to be productive in the NFL, though his 40 times told you he'd be too slow to be a reliable starter). other high ncaa stat guys (NOT one year wonders) are stephen tulloch, chris cooley (100+ catches), etc, etc. It tends to map well, though you've got to look at drill numbers to make sure NFL speed isn't going to be an issue.

[Ruhskins]

Man, how did we miss on Webb? That would have been nice given how he turned out. Good thread JoeRedskins.

[The Goat]

Cool thread Joe!! Your analysis is dialed in, but I also wonder if Matthews benefited from a better defense? I believe GB's defense regressed in 2011...did Matthews production remain similar to his '09 and '10 seasons?

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Cool thread Joe!! Your analysis is dialed in, but I also wonder if Matthews benefited from a better defense? I believe GB's defense regressed in 2011...did Matthews production remain similar to his '09 and '10 seasons?

he had less sacks than orakpo.

[Luxorreb]

2008 draft was nail in the coffin. Still trying to recover from Malcom Kelly, Devin Thomas 2nd rounders. Drafting Cousins isn't a mistake.

[Luxorreb]

2008 draft was nail in the coffin. Still trying to recover from Malcom Kelly, Devin Thomas 2nd rounders. Drafting Cousins isn't a mistake.