OFFICIAL 1st preseason thread!

BigSKINBauer · 08-14-2005, 12:10 PM

campbell i felt did well,
guys, Ramsey played like a good QB toward the end of the season last yera. I watched and reviewed the game and saw that ramsey would never hold the ball more than 3 seconds, even if he didn't have pressure, it was almost like he wanted to get the ball out as quickly as possible. He wouldn't let the plays develope and passed underneath. On playbook on NFL network during the offseason they showed Ramsey and they pointed out he throws to the closest receiver and doesn't think about where the first down was. Ramsey played well but he didn't play smart. With the exception of the intercetion and a pass overthrown to patten he got the ball where he wanted it to go, they weren't the right decisions however, this was most seen when he threw the ball to moss, i mean wtf, moss was 3 yards away and we needed like 5, cmon that is both ramsey and moss, moss should know just ease up allittle and say to himself that if i do catch this ball i need to be ready to get the Firstdown

i liked to see that we were given respect and no 8 in the box crap. That might be because we didn't have portis in there but even in the begginning we were given room. I just hope it stays that way but we got to throw deep toget that done.

monk81 · 08-14-2005, 12:16 PM

On Campbell.......some incompletes and his fumble.........we had an opportunity to win the game until he fumbled

heybigstar · 08-14-2005, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by monk81

On Campbell.......some incompletes and his fumble.........we had an opportunity to win the game until he fumbled

One of his incompletes was a fumble,

he led a drive with mccombs. a sorry running back who isnt going to make the team. The first fumble was hard to tell whose fault it was, the second was a fumble by the RB in the endzone.

I thought Campbell looked very good.

Dirtbag · 08-14-2005, 01:37 PM

As go the Dirtbags, so will go our season. And they looked GREAT last night!

As long as none of them get hurt (knock on wood) and Buges keeps them sharp our offense will be fine.

SmootSmack · 08-14-2005, 01:59 PM

I thought Ramsey looked ok, not great, just ok. There seemed to be a lot of 4 yard passes on 3rd and 5 situations. Not really sure whose fault that was, but it was frustrating. But it's still early. The "plan all along"-as Gibbs would say-is for Ramsey to be the starter opening day. I'd like it if he put together a dominating performance next week and definitively wins that starting job, as opposed to not losing it.

Even if you don't like Brunell, I would think that as Redskins fans we should all be pretty happy with how he did yesterday. He made good decisions, sharp throws. All around I was happy with his performance. Yeah I know it was against backups, but wasn't he playing alongside backups on offense as well? As for Campbell, based on what some people here have said about him I was just amazed that he knew to line up behind the center. Seriously though, for his first time out there I thought he did pretty well. I actually feel a little bit better about our overall QB situation after Saturday's game.

It was painful to hear Darrell Green keep referring to Bill Musgrave and "Hargrave" and his comparison of Brunell to Favre was odd. For those of you that didn't catch it, he said that Brunell had started his career as a backup to Favre. And then he talked about how Favre had decided to rededicate himself this offseason and how he had faced so much adversity recently-father's death, wife's lung cancer, brother-in-law's freak fatal accident. And then he said that people don't realize that Brunell has also faced a lot of adversity recently. So here I'm thinking "wow, what could this be? Something going on in Brunell's personal life?". But then DG says Brunell got frustrated with the whole situation in Jacksonville toward the end of his time there and had to deal with fans frustrated with him last year-his first in Washington.

I don't know, maybe it's just me, but fans heckling you is nowhere near the adversity that Favre has been dealing with. Is it?

cpayne5 · 08-15-2005, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by TAFKAS

It was painful to hear Darrell Green keep referring to Bill Musgrave and "Hargrave" ...

It was embarrassing. He was trying to be too much of a broadcaster, something he obviously is not. He just needs to be himself. Maybe pull out a tootsie roll during sideline interviews or something.

backrow · 08-17-2005, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by TAFKAS

I thought Ramsey looked ok, not great, just ok. There seemed to be a lot of 4 yard passes on 3rd and 5 situations. Not really sure whose fault that was, but it was frustrating. But it's still early. The "plan all along"-as Gibbs would say-is for Ramsey to be the starter opening day. I'd like it if he put together a dominating performance next week and definitively wins that starting job, as opposed to not losing it.

Even if you don't like Brunell, I would think that as Redskins fans we should all be pretty happy with how he did yesterday. He made good decisions, sharp throws. All around I was happy with his performance. Yeah I know it was against backups, but wasn't he playing alongside backups on offense as well? As for Campbell, based on what some people here have said about him I was just amazed that he knew to line up behind the center. Seriously though, for his first time out there I thought he did pretty well. I actually feel a little bit better about our overall QB situation after Saturday's game.

It was painful to hear Darrell Green keep referring to Bill Musgrave and "Hargrave" and his comparison of Brunell to Favre was odd. For those of you that didn't catch it, he said that Brunell had started his career as a backup to Favre. And then he talked about how Favre had decided to rededicate himself this offseason and how he had faced so much adversity recently-father's death, wife's lung cancer, brother-in-law's freak fatal accident. And then he said that people don't realize that Brunell has also faced a lot of adversity recently. So here I'm thinking "wow, what could this be? Something going on in Brunell's personal life?". But then DG says Brunell got frustrated with the whole situation in Jacksonville toward the end of his time there and had to deal with fans frustrated with him last year-his first in Washington.

I don't know, maybe it's just me, but fans heckling you is nowhere near the adversity that Favre has been dealing with. Is it?

I agree! Ram was, well, just ok.

I didn't like the acquisition of Brunnell, but after all, he did save HOF Coach Gibbs life during their first meeting, and now his arm is more lively.

Listening to DG was difficult at times.

Daseal · 08-14-2005, 01:02 PM

Our line was never exactly the forte of this defense. They rarely got pressure last year without the blitz.

Harris looked awful. I really think letting Smoot leave kicked our ass. We'll see!

GoSkins! · 08-14-2005, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Daseal

Our line was never exactly the forte of this defense. They rarely got pressure last year without the blitz.

Harris looked awful. I really think letting Smoot leave kicked our ass. We'll see!

I taped the game and went back to look at why the defense looked so bad. The first thing that I noticed is that the blitzes were not disguised and that when M, Washington blitzed, he didn't push hard. It really looked like they were trying not to get hurt.

12thMan · 08-14-2005, 01:47 PM

Firtst of all, it's only the first preseason game. So neither the defense or the offense is going to show much by way of schemes or designs, not yet. GW will have these guys ready by the begginning of the season. I don't know if there's any team that could have three D-line starters out and and a starting corner and not feel it.

I was really impressed with Nemo and Brunell. Even if Brunell was going against the second team or whatever, he had plenty of zip on the ball and was more acurate than he ever was in '04.

The O-line look really good and will get nothing but better as we go along. I think the addition of Nemo and Portis in the new scheme will take a lot of pressure of Ramsey. Go skins!!!

That Guy · 08-14-2005, 02:06 PM

we were missing our good D line guys too...

campbell had two fumbles and int while he was playing, but neither were his fault. His stats look bad, but his play (vs scrubs) really didn't.

SKINSnCANES · 08-14-2005, 02:32 PM

I didnt get to see the game, it wasnt televised here. But from what I was hearing from people the playcalling was stil pretty bad. Or atleast Ramseys execution of it. On third and long he was still throwing the ball to a hb for a short, if any gain. And not attempting to look down field first and try to actually get the first down. Yes I know you dont open up your bag of tricks in preseason, but getting a first down isnt really a big secret in football. Im pretty sure your playbook would still be safe if you threw the ball past the sticks...

joethiesmanfan · 08-15-2005, 07:28 AM

Ramsey looked terrible. I can understand why Joe Gibbs drafted Jason Campbell. Ramsey is not an NFL calibur QB to be honest. For peaks sake how many years is it gonna take you to make an accurate throw. comfortable with receivers is no excuse for professionals. Basically he looked awkward and lost. He is gonna get pulled early on if we lose to chicago and dallas.

EternalEnigma21 · 08-15-2005, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by joethiesmanfan

Ramsey looked terrible. I can understand why Joe Gibbs drafted Jason Campbell. Ramsey is not an NFL calibur QB to be honest. For peaks sake how many years is it gonna take you to make an accurate throw. comfortable with receivers is no excuse for professionals. Basically he looked awkward and lost. He is gonna get pulled early on if we lose to chicago and dallas.

awkward and lost might be yours and peak's take on it, but the only thing we can agree on is that he was fidgety.

I'm gonna take a chance here and say that he was fidgety for a whole other reason. He was giddy as a school girl. He kept seeing ways to exploit the guys left and right, seeing recievers prancing through the secondary in slowmotion wearing tu tus calling seductively for the ball. Defenders donning concrete shoes, angry and befuddled.

All the while he's got gibbs in his ear... "dont tilt your hand". So he lofts a pillow into the air to the man in the cement loafers. "Here, have your moment of glory, 'cause when we meet again sloth cat, It will be a different story."

cpayne5 · 08-15-2005, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by canthetuna

...yours and peak's take on it...

Classic.

08-14-2005, 12:10 PM	#1
BigSKINBauer Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Washington, DC Age: 37 Posts: 5,688	Re: OFFICIAL 1st preseason thread! campbell i felt did well, guys, Ramsey played like a good QB toward the end of the season last yera. I watched and reviewed the game and saw that ramsey would never hold the ball more than 3 seconds, even if he didn't have pressure, it was almost like he wanted to get the ball out as quickly as possible. He wouldn't let the plays develope and passed underneath. On playbook on NFL network during the offseason they showed Ramsey and they pointed out he throws to the closest receiver and doesn't think about where the first down was. Ramsey played well but he didn't play smart. With the exception of the intercetion and a pass overthrown to patten he got the ball where he wanted it to go, they weren't the right decisions however, this was most seen when he threw the ball to moss, i mean wtf, moss was 3 yards away and we needed like 5, cmon that is both ramsey and moss, moss should know just ease up allittle and say to himself that if i do catch this ball i need to be ready to get the Firstdown i liked to see that we were given respect and no 8 in the box crap. That might be because we didn't have portis in there but even in the begginning we were given room. I just hope it stays that way but we got to throw deep toget that done.

08-14-2005, 12:16 PM	#2
monk81 The Starter Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: TEXAS Posts: 2,029	Re: OFFICIAL 1st preseason thread! On Campbell.......some incompletes and his fumble.........we had an opportunity to win the game until he fumbled __________________ "It's absolutely criminal, in my opinion, that Monk has yet to be enshrined (in the Pro-Football Hall of Fame)" Dan Arkush PFW

08-14-2005, 01:37 PM	#4
Dirtbag Special Teams Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 142	Re: OFFICIAL 1st preseason thread! As go the Dirtbags, so will go our season. And they looked GREAT last night! As long as none of them get hurt (knock on wood) and Buges keeps them sharp our offense will be fine.

08-14-2005, 01:59 PM	#5
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: OFFICIAL 1st preseason thread! I thought Ramsey looked ok, not great, just ok. There seemed to be a lot of 4 yard passes on 3rd and 5 situations. Not really sure whose fault that was, but it was frustrating. But it's still early. The "plan all along"-as Gibbs would say-is for Ramsey to be the starter opening day. I'd like it if he put together a dominating performance next week and definitively wins that starting job, as opposed to not losing it. Even if you don't like Brunell, I would think that as Redskins fans we should all be pretty happy with how he did yesterday. He made good decisions, sharp throws. All around I was happy with his performance. Yeah I know it was against backups, but wasn't he playing alongside backups on offense as well? As for Campbell, based on what some people here have said about him I was just amazed that he knew to line up behind the center. Seriously though, for his first time out there I thought he did pretty well. I actually feel a little bit better about our overall QB situation after Saturday's game. It was painful to hear Darrell Green keep referring to Bill Musgrave and "Hargrave" and his comparison of Brunell to Favre was odd. For those of you that didn't catch it, he said that Brunell had started his career as a backup to Favre. And then he talked about how Favre had decided to rededicate himself this offseason and how he had faced so much adversity recently-father's death, wife's lung cancer, brother-in-law's freak fatal accident. And then he said that people don't realize that Brunell has also faced a lot of adversity recently. So here I'm thinking "wow, what could this be? Something going on in Brunell's personal life?". But then DG says Brunell got frustrated with the whole situation in Jacksonville toward the end of his time there and had to deal with fans frustrated with him last year-his first in Washington. I don't know, maybe it's just me, but fans heckling you is nowhere near the adversity that Favre has been dealing with. Is it? __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

08-14-2005, 01:02 PM	#8
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 42 Posts: 8,341	Re: OFFICIAL 1st preseason thread! Our line was never exactly the forte of this defense. They rarely got pressure last year without the blitz. Harris looked awful. I really think letting Smoot leave kicked our ass. We'll see! __________________ Best. Player. Available.

08-14-2005, 01:47 PM	#10
12thMan MVP Join Date: May 2005 Location: washington, D.C. Posts: 11,460	Re: OFFICIAL 1st preseason thread! Firtst of all, it's only the first preseason game. So neither the defense or the offense is going to show much by way of schemes or designs, not yet. GW will have these guys ready by the begginning of the season. I don't know if there's any team that could have three D-line starters out and and a starting corner and not feel it. I was really impressed with Nemo and Brunell. Even if Brunell was going against the second team or whatever, he had plenty of zip on the ball and was more acurate than he ever was in '04. The O-line look really good and will get nothing but better as we go along. I think the addition of Nemo and Portis in the new scheme will take a lot of pressure of Ramsey. Go skins!!!

08-14-2005, 02:06 PM	#11
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,620	Re: OFFICIAL 1st preseason thread! we were missing our good D line guys too... campbell had two fumbles and int while he was playing, but neither were his fault. His stats look bad, but his play (vs scrubs) really didn't.

08-14-2005, 02:32 PM	#12
SKINSnCANES Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New Jersey Age: 43 Posts: 5,455	Re: OFFICIAL 1st preseason thread! I didnt get to see the game, it wasnt televised here. But from what I was hearing from people the playcalling was stil pretty bad. Or atleast Ramseys execution of it. On third and long he was still throwing the ball to a hb for a short, if any gain. And not attempting to look down field first and try to actually get the first down. Yes I know you dont open up your bag of tricks in preseason, but getting a first down isnt really a big secret in football. Im pretty sure your playbook would still be safe if you threw the ball past the sticks... __________________ "I'm used to winning, coming from the University of Miami. " Clinton Portis

08-15-2005, 07:28 AM	#13
joethiesmanfan The Starter Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,163	Re: OFFICIAL 1st preseason thread! Ramsey looked terrible. I can understand why Joe Gibbs drafted Jason Campbell. Ramsey is not an NFL calibur QB to be honest. For peaks sake how many years is it gonna take you to make an accurate throw. comfortable with receivers is no excuse for professionals. Basically he looked awkward and lost. He is gonna get pulled early on if we lose to chicago and dallas.

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