I'm Going On INDY Radio To Discuss Luck vs RGIII!

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Some stats. He's way behind in yards, attempts, completions, and slightly behind in TDs. Now granted, I would prefer RGIII's stats to Luck's so lets get that cleared up before any knuckleheads decide to read more into than what's said.


Bottom line is, Luck has less to work with than RGIII does, and is asked to do more than RGIII is. Would he be causing that many TOs if he had a running game like we do? Who knows. Does Luck have a Trent Williams or a Montgomery blocking for him? Not hardly. Our 3rd string TE(paulsen) has outperformed all of their TEs. (including Fleener)

Remember, that Colts defense is one that gave up 352 rushing yards the other week so it's not like that defense is carrying the team. It's not.

Reggie Wayne was balling this year. And they have a couple of Pro-Bowlers on defense, albeit on the down slope.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Some stats. He's way behind in yards, attempts, completions, and slightly behind in TDs. Now granted, I would prefer RGIII's stats to Luck's so lets get that cleared up before any knuckleheads decide to read more into than what's said.

Let's just say RG3's passing stats are vastly more efficient. Higher QB rating, completion %, QBR, only 5 INTs, etc. And you can add in his impressive rushing numbers as well.

I think RG3 keeps defensive coordinators up at night, Luck is good but I don't think opposing DC's have fits about having to face him like they do with Griffin.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Some stats. He's way behind in yards, attempts, completions, and slightly behind in TDs. Now granted, I would prefer RGIII's stats to Luck's so lets get that cleared up before any knuckleheads decide to read more into than what's said.


Bottom line is, Luck has less to work with than RGIII does, and is asked to do more than RGIII is. Would he be causing that many TOs if he had a running game like we do? Who knows. Does Luck have a Trent Williams or a Montgomery blocking for him? Not hardly. Our 3rd string TE(paulsen) has outperformed all of their TEs. (including Fleener)

Remember, that Colts defense is one that gave up 352 rushing yards the other week so it's not like that defense is carrying the team. It's not.

Pretty much sums it up. Luck has a below average line and outside of Wayne they really don't have a quality NFL wr. He's done a really nice job in his rookie year IMO.

But this guy Hilton that they drafted really looks like he's going to be a player.

[scowan]

I hate to say it, but in my mind if the Redskins dont' win this Sunday and win the Division, then I think Andrew Luck is ROY for taking his team to the playoffs. If The skins win however, RGIII will have won the NFC East for his team, which one-ups Luck. I know RGIII wins the "most effecient" award between the two of them and Russell Wilson has been right up there as well. But objectively you have to say going from 2-14 to the playoffs is just amazing for Indy and without Luck, it doesn't happen.

[Mayor]

Originally Posted by scowan

I hate to say it, but in my mind if the Redskins dont' win this Sunday and win the Division, then I think Andrew Luck is ROY for taking his team to the playoffs. If The skins win however, RGIII will have won the NFC East for his team, which one-ups Luck. I know RGIII wins the "most effecient" award between the two of them and Russell Wilson has been right up there as well. But objectively you have to say going from 2-14 to the playoffs is just amazing for Indy and without Luck, it doesn't happen.

Yeah, had they not decided to cut ties and go the youth route with Luck they might have been stuck with Peyton Manning.

[mooby]

I haven't seen anything other than Luck's highlights, but from the limited amount I've seen of him I can say I think he looks natural and comfortable in the pocket, and is also surprisingly calm for a rookie qb. He's made his share of rookie turnovers but it doesn't seem to faze him at all, and big deficits don't faze him either.

[Lotus]

Luck might have more yards passing simply because he hasn't enjoyed the running game that Gryphon has. To me this point narrows the passing yardage gap between the two.

The yardage gap becomes much narrower when you consider what Gryphon has done with his legs, in terms of rushing yardage. And it is not just the yardage gap at stake here: Gryphon makes defenses play honest in a way that Luck does not because of his running threat.

Since the radio is interested in our perceptions of Luck, of course I think that Luck is a phenomenal talent. He has a strong, accurate arm, makes some good decisions (and will make better decisions when he is no longer a rook), and provides leadership.

But I personally have no Luck envy. As phenomenal as Luck has been, I am very happy that we have Gryphon.

[Chico23231]

I think you talk about completion % 66.4 to 54.3 and Yards per attempt 8.27 vs 6.98. When comparing, talk about the expectations as a natural passer. RG3 wasnt suppose to do this, Luck was expected too. The 8.27 per attempt crushes any arguement of screens, short passes. RG3 is leading the league with 8.27 meaning he is getting the ball down the field and doing at a very accurate clip. Also you talk about the interceptions too.

The crazy thing is RG3 is a much better pure passer than originally thought, and he is doing this convincingly better than Luck.

I think the rush, big plays speak for themself from RG3.

I think if they bring up scheme its the equivalent of a weak arguement of who you played and beat. You cant determine the schedule just like RG3 couldnt develop the scheme.

[scowan]

I guess the real question is what has ROY been based on in the past? Individual preformance or team record. MVP is more a team record achievement to me. How "Valuable" are you to your team. ROY is more stat based and individual accomplishments in my mind. If you take team performance and records away then RGIII has had a better Rookie year than anyone really. I would also like to see if someone knows the QB ratings of Rookie QBs in the past. Has anyone ever been over 100 in their Rookie year? I think baring a total colapse by RGIII Sunday, he will finsih the regular season with a QB rating over 100. Has that ever been done with as many games as he has played this year?

[12thMan]

Thanks, SS.

[skinsfan69]

I'm jsut curious, if Luck were a Redskin and RG3 was a Colt, and they're stats were the same, what would we say about RG3? Probably that he plays in a safer offense and Luck throws it downfield more. Both guys are very very good for rookies. But in the passing game, Indy w/out question demands more from Luck than we do with RG3.

[SmootSmack]

Well you know part of being a great QB is making players around you better. So we shouldn't just look at it like well lucky for RG3 he's got Logan Paulsen...why not lucky for Pualsen he's got RG3

[Chico23231]

i just think you keep it simple and look at expectations. RG3 is 2nd rated passer behind Aaron Rogers, that is just amazing. Noone thought he could throw the ball this effecient out of college.

[Defensewins]

Redskins are #1 in the NFL in yards per play with 6.3 yards per play. Higher than Denver and New England. NFL Football Stats - NFL Team Yards per Play on TeamRankings.com
Redskins are #1 in the NFL in least amount of turnovers.
Redskins are #1 running team in the NFL.
RG3 is 2nd rated passer behind Aaron Rogers.
"RGIIi is more physically gifted player than Luck with a beautiful throwing motion and a knack for making good decisions on the football field – and he also just happens to have track-star speed."

The colts offense is not number at anything other than maybe turnovers

[firstdown]

Don't forget to ask him about question number 3.