To Read Option, or Not

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by The Goat

You can't be serious here. If anything RG has shown less "intelligence" about avoiding contact etc. Or do you assume that will improve dramatically and he'll slide early and often or head out of bounds?

Keep saying he cant

[SmootSmack]

The Mule just doesn't shut up does he.

[Monkeydad]

May I request an avatar change for The Goat?

He's disgracing the one he's using right now. I vote for a "custom" one. Put Summo on the job.

Originally Posted by The Goat

You can't be serious here. If anything RG has shown less "intelligence" about avoiding contact etc. Or do you assume that will improve dramatically and he'll slide early and often or head out of bounds?

Congratulations. You are the first person to ever call Robert Griffin III stupid.

His intelligence and maturity has impressed the hell out of the rest of the world, even Dallas fans don't talk bad about him.


I guess we should all just stop responding and stop feeding the goat.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by Monkeydad

May I request an avatar change for The Goat?

He's disgracing the one he's using right now. I vote for a "custom" one. Put Summo on the job.



Congratulations. You are the first person to ever call Robert Griffin III stupid.

His intelligence and maturity has impressed the hell out of the rest of the world, even Dallas fans don't talk bad about him.


I guess we should all just stop responding and stop feeding the goat.

Don't get sloppy now. You talked about his intelligence for avoiding contact, but it doesn't match the reality so far.

Dallas fans I know (most are friends) pity RG for the situation he's in. Running his wheels off is the typical comment.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Don't get sloppy now. You talked about his intelligence for avoiding contact, but it doesn't match the reality so far.

Dallas fans I know (most are friends) pity RG for the situation he's in. Running his wheels off is the typical comment.

But that's just not accurately describing the nature of the offense, and from the cowboys board I am on, most Dallas fans find some way to comfort themselves from the thought of facing Griffin and the Skins every year. In fact, they can get pretty creative about it.

[warriorzpath]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Don't get sloppy now. You talked about his intelligence for avoiding contact, but it doesn't match the reality so far.

Dallas fans I know (most are friends) pity RG for the situation he's in. Running his wheels off is the typical comment.

Ha. Putting Dallas fans or Dallas anything near the word- intelligence. Now that's funny.

You just lost all credibility in the Redskins world. I think u prob know that at this point by using a Dallas fans opinion to back u up.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by warriorzpath

Ha. Putting Dallas fans or Dallas anything near the word- intelligence. Now that's funny.

You just lost all credibility in the Redskins world. I think u prob know that at this point by using a Dallas fans opinion to back u up.

Two of my closest friends are Dallas fans...shoot me lol.

Per going onto a Dallas board to get a consensus opinion of Skins, RG etc, I would argue you don't get much perspective from any board. Tends to be a lot of groupthink regardless of the team, board etc.

[warriorzpath]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Two of my closest friends are Dallas fans...shoot me lol.

Per going onto a Dallas board to get a consensus opinion of Skins, RG etc, I would argue you don't get much perspective from any board. Tends to be a lot of groupthink regardless of the team, board etc.

I don't know who to feel more sorry for- you or your friends. Especially after RGIII schooled Romo on how a real leader qbs a team in his rookie season. That was the true definition of "sonning" someone.

[RedskinRat]

Excellent post, Paintrain.

[FRPLG]

Fact: Bob did not get hurt even once on a designed running play.

It's hard to understand how his wheels are being "run off" when there lacks even one tiny data point proving it. As PT said...the notion is patently absurd.

The Cleveland game showed how we would run this offense without a QB with the dynamic mobility of Bob AND AND AND AND mother f'n AND the same experience. It wasn't text book Shanny offense...it was textbook rookie QB Shanny offense. Lots of roll outs (cutting the field in half), lean on the running game, keep KC from having to make too many decisions. It was a function of KC limitations more than anything. The idea that we ran a higher quality offense with Kirk f'n Cousins is just GD stupid. Bob is a better QB in every GD way. The Shanny's simply have more to work with in RGIII and they utilize it.

[MTK]

Paintrain for the win.

[CRedskinsRule]

it's kinda funny to think about a former olympic quality track star getting his wheels run off, when you think about it.

[SirLK26]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

it's kinda funny to think about a former olympic quality track star getting his wheels run off, when you think about it.

That phrase, when applied to RG3, has never made sense to me. If he was running 20-30 times a game and taking a lot of hits like a running back, then I could see. But running less than 10 times a game, as well as getting out of bounds and sliding on a lot of runs, does not equate to "getting his wheels run off."

[SouperMeister]

I originated this thread right after Griffin injured his knee against Seattle, and my opinion has since changed 180 degrees. I agree with Cooley and Greg Cosell that the team is too dependent on play action off the read option, and that it has stunted Griffin's development reading defenses. They argue that the current passing game (bubble screens aside) is play action out of pistol/read option looks, with isolation routes instead of more complex route combinations. Cooley also mentioned that we do very little to spread the defense horizontally, which is a key tenet of the WCO. I would keep the read option as an occasional change up, but I feel strongly that Griffin needs to learn a more traditional NFL passing game if he is to reach his full potential. I have little doubt that he has the talent, smarts, and the drive to do so, but I have my doubts as to whether Mike and Kyle are the best teachers.

[MTK]

I agree with Cooley here, pretty much what I was saying in the Skins/Giants post game thread:

Until Griffin is willing to play the read-option the way he did last year, coaches should put it on the shelf.

“When you do look at him as a runner, he is not an impactful runner in any way shape or form,” Cooley said. “He was last season. They’re running read option, but he will not stick his foot in the ground, plant, make a cut, and try to make anybody miss. Maybe on a 3rd-and-1 at an impactful point in the game. But it was very clear to me that Robert made the decision that he is not going to get hurt for the rest of this season. So when he gets on the edge, there were a couple plays that could have been had where Robert would have ran for 20-, 30-plus yards last year. He will run for two [this year], and he will run out of bounds.

Cooley: Redskins should ditch read-option