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[RedskinRat]

"Stroll and bowl". Next big thing in Offensive schemes. And kittens.

[Monkeydad]

What's with you and kittens today?

[Monkeydad]

Since the Oilers never won a Super Bowl, Warren Moon was just a gimmick.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Monkeydad

Since the Oilers never won a Super Bowl, Warren Moon was just a gimmick.

As was Dan Fouts and the Air Coryell offense. Also, Dan Marino and the Marks Brothers were a gimmick.

[CrustyRedskin]

just throwing the Run and SHoot out there for yal to kick around! I do remember Detroit, Atlanta, and Houston all making the playoffs one year with it. May have been 91. I know Buddy Ryan lovved it. lol

[Monkeydad]

Jamarcus Russell was a gimmick.

Heck, the Raiders are a gimmick.

[MTK]

^ Shanahan gets plenty of respect around the league, especially for what he did with RG3 last year, you know that rookie of the year thing and molding the offense to suit his skills, you just refuse to listen.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

^ Shanahan gets plenty of respect around the league, especially for what he did with RG3 last year, you know that rookie of the year thing and molding the offense to suit his skills, you just refuse to listen.

Wrong (as usual). I watched every game and know the stats as well as you or anyone else. I also try to step back and look at the bigger picture i.e. longevity over short-term, the preponderance of evidence about running QBs, etc etc.

It's one thing if you absolutely believe Shanny will win a Lombardi with RG before "running his wheels off" as you hear people say over and over again. Otherwise, the term pyrrhic victory comes to mind.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Wrong (as usual).

If this were the Buccaneers board and you talked to the boss that way, you'd be outta here!

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by Monkeydad

If this were the Buccaneers board and you talked to the boss that way, you'd be outta here!

I appreciate the mods tolerance for dissent/discussion (no sarcasm)

[MTK]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Wrong (as usual). I watched every game and know the stats as well as you or anyone else. I also try to step back and look at the bigger picture i.e. longevity over short-term, the preponderance of evidence about running QBs, etc etc.

It's one thing if you absolutely believe Shanny will win a Lombardi with RG before "running his wheels off" as you hear people say over and over again. Otherwise, the term pyrrhic victory comes to mind.

You sure do like going in circles. Wrong as usual, lol, this coming from the biggest clown on the board.

They cut way back on the designed runs as the season went on. RGIII needs to be smarter when he scrambles, that's what it boils down to.

He's far more than just a running QB. He's a hell of a passer and athlete. Ignoring the fact that he's a dangerous runner and not taking full advantage of his skills would be a total waste.

[Chico23231]

I think its very foolish to lump RG3 in with other "running" QBs. People have never seen this talent before and RG3 is a very intelligent guy.

I think your selling him real short. Not smart

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

I think its very foolish to lump RG3 in with other "running" QBs. People have never seen this talent before and RG3 is a very intelligent guy.

I think your selling him real short. Not smart

Well it fits his argument, as well as his football IQ. As usual of course.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

I think its very foolish to lump RG3 in with other "running" QBs. People have never seen this talent before and RG3 is a very intelligent guy.

I think your selling him real short. Not smart

You can't be serious here. If anything RG has shown less "intelligence" about avoiding contact etc. Or do you assume that will improve dramatically and he'll slide early and often or head out of bounds?

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by The Goat

You can't be serious here. If anything RG has shown less "intelligence" about avoiding contact etc. Or do you assume that will improve dramatically and he'll slide early and often or head out of bounds?

Griffin learned, but only after shit got serious. for example after his concussion, you saw him use the sideline far better. After he got blasted after a handoff, and a ref actually told him, "you gotta get your hands up after the handoff", you saw him giving himself up once the ballcarrier was clear of the handoff. But he also has a superman complex. The question will be if he can clear that out in the waning minutes of games, and slide/get out of bounds.

If you watched the games then you know he increasingly used the sidelines and learned through the season. You also know that the plays that were called for him to run were quick to the edge plays where his burst allowed him to get to the sideline, and he really didn't take many hits from those.

No qb needs to be taking unnecessary hits, that's true, but how Griffin's hits were caused seems to be where you disagree with most everybody else on this board.