Around the NFL Free Agency Thread 2013

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by musicmaster45

according to rotoworld Greg Toler resigns with Arizona

yeah I just saw that...

Damn. We gotta go after Biggers now. Or all in for Talib.


EDIT

Kent somers saying he hasnt re-signed w/ AZ. Will be a FA on Tuesday

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by musicmaster45

according to rotoworld Greg Toler resigns with Arizona

Whoops. As musicmaster45 just shared...we can still get him.

Toler has not re-signed...

CORRECTION: Rashad Johnson has signed a 3-year deal with Cardinals. Wires crossed with source. My apologies everyone.

https://twitter.com/timring3TV/statu...17528871841793



Wonder if we can afford to sign Toler and Talib after cutting Hall?

[That Guy]

bad move seattle. they would have been better off using those picks in april.

unless harvin gives them 1200 yards, 8TDs and plays in 16 games, it's wasteful.

boldin on the other hand is a great pickup. if a 6th round WR gives you 200 yards in his first year, you'd be happy, so, barring a fast and serious injury i think he gives them at least 600-800 and everyone in SF is pretty happy with the move.

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by That Guy

bad move seattle. they would have been better off using those picks in april.

unless harvin gives them 1200 yards, 8TDs and plays in 16 games, it's wasteful.

boldin on the other hand is a great pickup. if a 6th round WR gives you 200 yards in his first year, you'd be happy, so, barring a fast and serious injury i think he gives them at least 600-800 and everyone in SF is pretty happy with the move.

I get to watch a lot of Ravens game and dude is a glue guy. When the chains need to be moved, he will make the difficult catch.

[musicmaster45]

Yea my bad rotoworld misreported

Updating a previous item, the Cardinals have not re-signed free agent CB Greg Toler.
Tim Ring of KTVK Phoenix withdrew his "report" after claiming he mixed up Toler's three-year deal with Rashad Johnson's. Toler remains in the mix for the Browns and Redskins. Per reliable Kent Somers of the Arizona Republic, there's every reason to believe Toler will hit the open market Tuesday at 4PM ET.

[donofriose]

The Seahawks probably did not see anyone of value in this year's draft in the first round. They have been trying to get a big play receiver the past couple of years and have missed out, second round and possibly a third round pick is what I would have given up but if you are going to trade a 1st round draft pick this is the year to do it. Honestly I would take Harvin over every receiver the Redskins currently have on their roster.

Boldin was a great pickup for the 49ers. Crabtree, Davis, Boldin, their OLine, and their running backs. I do not see anyone stopping that offense. Especially with Kapernick looking more and more like the real deal. Of course their defense took a huge step back mainly due to Justin Smith being injured but the man is turning 34 and when you are that old injuries have a way of lingering more often that not. But the NFC West should still run through them but I think it will be a lot closer than it was last year. Seahawks have an excellent chance of winning that division with the Rams creeping up. Cardinals will always miss Kurt Warner.

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by donofriose

The Seahawks probably did not see anyone of value in this year's draft in the first round. They have been trying to get a big play receiver the past couple of years and have missed out, second round and possibly a third round pick is what I would have given up but if you are going to trade a 1st round draft pick this is the year to do it. Honestly I would take Harvin over every receiver the Redskins currently have on their roster.

Boldin was a great pickup for the 49ers. Crabtree, Davis, Boldin, their OLine, and their running backs. I do not see anyone stopping that offense. Especially with Kapernick looking more and more like the real deal. Of course their defense took a huge step back mainly due to Justin Smith being injured but the man is turning 34 and when you are that old injuries have a way of lingering more often that not. But the NFC West should still run through them but I think it will be a lot closer than it was last year. Seahawks have an excellent chance of winning that division with the Rams creeping up. Cardinals will always miss Kurt Warner.

Its still a lot to give up for a player. Just because this ''isn't a good year for first rounders'' doesn't mean there are no players you could have gotten at other positions in the first or stockpile picks. Or perhaps they could have made another reach and gotten a 2nd round guy in the first again (Bruce Irvin example).

Rich Eisen pointed out that the last 3 WR trades involving first rounders have been awful (Peerless Price, Roy Williams, Deion Branch). Add to that that Percy Harvin has yet to play a full season in the NFL, suffers from migraines, wants Calvin Johnson money, and couldn't even get along with Leslie Frazier, and IMO you have a trade that has more bust than boom.

Also Ed Reed to San Fran; you heard it here first.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

Its still a lot to give up for a player. Just because this ''isn't a good year for first rounders'' doesn't mean there are no players you could have gotten at other positions in the first or stockpile picks. Or perhaps they could have made another reach and gotten a 2nd round guy in the first again (Bruce Irvin example).

Rich Eisen pointed out that the last 3 WR trades involving first rounders have been awful (Peerless Price, Roy Williams, Deion Branch). Add to that that Percy Harvin has yet to play a full season in the NFL, suffers from migraines, wants Calvin Johnson money, and couldn't even get along with Leslie Frazier, and IMO you have a trade that has more bust than boom.

Also Ed Reed to San Fran; you heard it here first.

Or PFT

Speculation mounts that Ed Reed will be a 49er | ProFootballTalk

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Or PFT

Speculation mounts that Ed Reed will be a 49er | ProFootballTalk

LOL!

Or ESPN

OR CNN

LOL!

That made me laugh. CB59 you are such a insider; SS don't ever come back.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by mredskins

LOL!

Or ESPN

OR CNN

LOL!

That made me laugh. CB59 you are such a insider; SS don't ever come back.

Everyone is an insider apparently.

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Or PFT

Speculation mounts that Ed Reed will be a 49er | ProFootballTalk

I'm saying it will happen not could happen. Definitive statement to speculation.

Heres another Victor Cruz to Minnesota

[MTK]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

I'm saying it will happen not could happen. Definitive statement to speculation

Ok, it wasn't clear, seemed that you were calling that shot on your own.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

I'm saying it will happen not could happen. Definitive statement to speculation.

Heres another Victor Cruz to Minnesota

Rams and Vikings after Cruz reportedly.

Think about this...us trading all of those picks in the RGIII deal to the Rams just might enable them to steal the Giants' best offensive weapon...helping us. Beautiful.


I'd LOVE for Mara to lose his best offensive player.

Cruz>Nicks and they're already paying Nicks huge dollars...Cruz is going to want to, and deserved to be paid more. Eli's contract is going to be like a cap penalty for Mara.

Same with Baltimore and Flacco...he doesn't deserve anywhere near that money, but it's tough to negotiate against him right after the SB win.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

Its still a lot to give up for a player. Just because this ''isn't a good year for first rounders'' doesn't mean there are no players you could have gotten at other positions in the first or stockpile picks. Or perhaps they could have made another reach and gotten a 2nd round guy in the first again (Bruce Irvin example).

Rich Eisen pointed out that the last 3 WR trades involving first rounders have been awful (Peerless Price, Roy Williams, Deion Branch). Add to that that Percy Harvin has yet to play a full season in the NFL, suffers from migraines, wants Calvin Johnson money, and couldn't even get along with Leslie Frazier, and IMO you have a trade that has more bust than boom.

Also Ed Reed to San Fran; you heard it here first.

True, but many more examples of 1st or 2nd round WR busts. Your blind if you cant see how this makes perfect sense for Seattle. That offense needs a play maker to compliment Wilson. Why not surround him with one? Not too many potential playmakers in the league like Harvin. PR/KR, WR and RB...he does it all. Is there a risk? OF COURSE, there always is with talent like this. Was there a risk with RG3, OF COURSE, there always is with talent like this.

[donofriose]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

Its still a lot to give up for a player. Just because this ''isn't a good year for first rounders'' doesn't mean there are no players you could have gotten at other positions in the first or stockpile picks. Or perhaps they could have made another reach and gotten a 2nd round guy in the first again (Bruce Irvin example).

Rich Eisen pointed out that the last 3 WR trades involving first rounders have been awful (Peerless Price, Roy Williams, Deion Branch). Add to that that Percy Harvin has yet to play a full season in the NFL, suffers from migraines, wants Calvin Johnson money, and couldn't even get along with Leslie Frazier, and IMO you have a trade that has more bust than boom.

Also Ed Reed to San Fran; you heard it here first.

Seeing as how Bruce Irvin had a better season than a lot of the other first round guys, I guess it was not a reach after all and maybe the Seahawks just had a better scouting report on him than anyone else. I'm sure they don't regret drafting him over Nick Perry, Ingram, McClellin, or Coples who were pass rushers who were supposed to be drafted higher than him. They obviously made the right choice in reference to Irvin.

What I am saying is if you are going to trade a 1st round pick, this is the year to do it. It is not easy to trade down and stockpile picks. Otherwise everyone would have 10 picks every year. I guess we will have to see with Percy Harvin. He was an MVP candidate at one time this year but the injuries are an obvious concern. But I believe it will work out for the Seahawks more than it will for the Vikings.