QB controversey?

MTK · 08-22-2005, 08:37 AM

vote and discuss

TheMalcolmConnection · 08-22-2005, 08:48 AM

Ramsey played great at the end of the season and is improving game-by-game this preseason.

And again, this is only preseason. Yes, Brunell has been showing he can school 2nd and 3rd stringers. The good I see in him being "back to his old self" is that we have a good backup in case Ramsey goes down.

PSUSkinsFan21 · 08-22-2005, 08:50 AM

:thumb: Ditto for me MC.

It might be a different story if Brunell was going up against the first string defenses and lighting it up.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 08-22-2005, 08:53 AM

Same here. Brunell might be a better QB than his performance last season would have you believe, but Ramsey deserves a REAL shot at the starting job.

Virtually everyone was ready to lynch Brunell last season. Now, after a few good performances in preseason games against backups, people are acting like he's Peyton Manning stuck behind Ryan Leaf. Crazy...

BrudLee · 08-22-2005, 08:53 AM

It's difficult to blame Ramsey when the two preseason games he's played in have almost by design eliminated the running game. Portis has one carry in the preseason, which means defenses don't have to show the same respect for the run they would otherwise.

Now, Ramsey has made some mistakes. He will likely continue to do so. Hopefully, when defenses are showing us 8 in the box, his mistakes will not be capitalized on. He is the best option we have now, by a healthy margin.

jbcjr14 · 08-22-2005, 08:53 AM

Ramsey is still the guy. If he costs us a couple of games early in the season due to his poor decision making, then I think you go to the backup.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 08-22-2005, 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbcjr14

Ramsey is still the guy. If he costs us a couple of games early in the season due to his poor decision making, then I think you go to the backup.

At the VERY least, I think you've got to give him 6 or 7 games. I'd like to see him in for the entire season.

TheMalcolmConnection · 08-22-2005, 08:56 AM

Also, Ramsey has been making great reads against blitzes (not to mention our o-line has been picking them up without problems).

Schneed10 · 08-22-2005, 08:57 AM

Ramsey, because he showed last year that he can manage the offense well. He has made obvious strides with touch passes down the field. He isn't that accurate with it yet, but last year he just gunned everything. The few deep passes he threw would be lasers that sailed over the WRs head. Now he seems to be putting air under it, dropping the pass down over the CB's head and into the receiver's hands. That's what we need in order to seriously threaten the deep part of the field and keep 8 men out of the box. His accuracy isn't there yet, but I think it will get better with time. Ramsey is definitely not perfect, I think he's going to throw a fair amount of interceptions unless Gibbs starts calling the game more conservatively. But he knows how to manage the game and make some plays.

If it were Brunell starting though, I wouldn't be upset at all. I don't see much of a dropoff, if any, between the two of them. I think Brunell's miserable performance last year was mainly due to horrendous offensive line play and a lack of separation from the WRs. I think his elbow may have been bothering him too. His arm looks healthy, and the O-Line would give him the time he needs to play well. Brunell has always been able to throw a nice touch-pass deep downfield. Plus the players seem to respond to him.

I feel relatively fine with either one of them. But I'll take Ramsey because of how he did at the end of last year. We just have to be ready to deal with some INTs. I have a feeling he's going to be frustrating for us.

TheMalcolmConnection · 08-22-2005, 09:01 AM

Gibbs start calling the game more conservatively?! Urgh, not something I want to see!

I will say this... I think that while it doesn't count, they're telling Ramsey to "let-er-rip" and see how he does. I'm sure if these games counted, they'd be running more to set up the pass so that once they stack the box, Ramsey can hit some easy quick slants to Moss or Patten and they'd be gone.

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08-22-2005, 08:37 AM	#1
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08-22-2005, 08:48 AM	#2
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 44 Posts: 19,264	Re: QB controversey? Ramsey played great at the end of the season and is improving game-by-game this preseason. And again, this is only preseason. Yes, Brunell has been showing he can school 2nd and 3rd stringers. The good I see in him being "back to his old self" is that we have a good backup in case Ramsey goes down. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

08-22-2005, 08:50 AM	#3
PSUSkinsFan21 The Starter Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Philadelphia, PA Age: 48 Posts: 1,340	Re: QB controversey? :thumb: Ditto for me MC. It might be a different story if Brunell was going up against the first string defenses and lighting it up. __________________ "Hail to the Redskins!" and "Fight on State!"

08-22-2005, 08:53 AM	#4
Sheriff Gonna Getcha Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 46 Posts: 8,317	Re: QB controversey? Same here. Brunell might be a better QB than his performance last season would have you believe, but Ramsey deserves a REAL shot at the starting job. Virtually everyone was ready to lynch Brunell last season. Now, after a few good performances in preseason games against backups, people are acting like he's Peyton Manning stuck behind Ryan Leaf. Crazy...

08-22-2005, 08:53 AM	#5
BrudLee Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Rehoboth Beach, DE Posts: 3,494	Re: QB controversey? It's difficult to blame Ramsey when the two preseason games he's played in have almost by design eliminated the running game. Portis has one carry in the preseason, which means defenses don't have to show the same respect for the run they would otherwise. Now, Ramsey has made some mistakes. He will likely continue to do so. Hopefully, when defenses are showing us 8 in the box, his mistakes will not be capitalized on. He is the best option we have now, by a healthy margin. __________________ There's nowhere to go but up. Or down. I guess we could stay where we are, too.

08-22-2005, 08:53 AM	#6
jbcjr14 The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Austin, Texas Age: 55 Posts: 2,015	Re: QB controversey? Ramsey is still the guy. If he costs us a couple of games early in the season due to his poor decision making, then I think you go to the backup. __________________ "Work Harder: millions on welfare are counting on you" - Obama 2009 address to Congress.

08-22-2005, 08:56 AM	#8
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 44 Posts: 19,264	Re: QB controversey? Also, Ramsey has been making great reads against blitzes (not to mention our o-line has been picking them up without problems). __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

08-22-2005, 08:57 AM	#9
Schneed10 A Dude Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Newtown Square, PA Age: 46 Posts: 12,458	Re: QB controversey? Ramsey, because he showed last year that he can manage the offense well. He has made obvious strides with touch passes down the field. He isn't that accurate with it yet, but last year he just gunned everything. The few deep passes he threw would be lasers that sailed over the WRs head. Now he seems to be putting air under it, dropping the pass down over the CB's head and into the receiver's hands. That's what we need in order to seriously threaten the deep part of the field and keep 8 men out of the box. His accuracy isn't there yet, but I think it will get better with time. Ramsey is definitely not perfect, I think he's going to throw a fair amount of interceptions unless Gibbs starts calling the game more conservatively. But he knows how to manage the game and make some plays. If it were Brunell starting though, I wouldn't be upset at all. I don't see much of a dropoff, if any, between the two of them. I think Brunell's miserable performance last year was mainly due to horrendous offensive line play and a lack of separation from the WRs. I think his elbow may have been bothering him too. His arm looks healthy, and the O-Line would give him the time he needs to play well. Brunell has always been able to throw a nice touch-pass deep downfield. Plus the players seem to respond to him. I feel relatively fine with either one of them. But I'll take Ramsey because of how he did at the end of last year. We just have to be ready to deal with some INTs. I have a feeling he's going to be frustrating for us.

08-22-2005, 09:01 AM	#10
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 44 Posts: 19,264	Re: QB controversey? Gibbs start calling the game more conservatively?! Urgh, not something I want to see! I will say this... I think that while it doesn't count, they're telling Ramsey to "let-er-rip" and see how he does. I'm sure if these games counted, they'd be running more to set up the pass so that once they stack the box, Ramsey can hit some easy quick slants to Moss or Patten and they'd be gone. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

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