Schefter: "Skins NOT shopping Big Al"

[CRedskinsRule]

Let's see what happens at next weeks voluntary minicamp, I think that should show us how it will shake out.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Let's see what happens at next weeks voluntary minicamp, I think that should show us how it will shake out.

It's been reported that he won't be there now. Media has access to players and he doesn't want the distraction is what's been reported.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

It's been reported that he won't be there now. Media has access to players and he doesn't want the distraction is what's been reported.

I also heard he would but I don't have a clue. It just seems that it could go either way.

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Let's see what happens at next weeks voluntary minicamp, I think that should show us how it will shake out.

How is that a measure of how things will shakeout? It is a voluntary camp and he has already said he will not be there.
When Allen or Shanahan talk about changing the status quo we are talking about level of play, level of coaching and winning. Working out together, sitting in a circle, holding hands and singing Kumbaya is not going make us a better team.
There is no magical team summer workout or team togetherness activity that is going to make us a better team.
If Haynesworth were a QB or offensive skill position then I see the need for him to be here. But to see him decide which gap to take in a non-contact drill is pointless. He is a DL not a rocket scientist.
It is funny how Farve (a QB) can skip everything, summer workouts, training camp and preseason; show up for one preseason game and nobody in the press calls him a cancer.
But when Haynesworth skips volunteer shit he is called a cancer.
Double standard?

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

How is that a measure of how things will shakeout? It is a voluntary camp and he has already said he will not be there.
When Allen or Shanahan talk about changing the status quo we are talking about level of play, level of coaching and winning. Working out together, sitting in a circle, holding hands and singing Kumbaya is not going make us a better team.
There is no magical team summer workout or team togetherness activity that is going to make us a better team.
If Haynesworth were a QB or offensive skill position then I see the need for him to be here. But to see him decide which gap to take in a non-contact drill is pointless. He is a DL not a rocket scientist.
It is funny how Farve (a QB) can skip everything, summer workouts, training camp and preseason; show up for one preseason game and nobody in the press calls him a cancer.
But when Haynesworth skips volunteer shit he is called a cancer.
Double standard?

Well, I didn't really mean it like that. I think only so many things could happen:
1 he shows up, and basically the media chills out
2 he doesn't show up, the media grill MS and it is clear that MS wants to move him
3 he doesn't show up, the media grill MS and he handles it tactfully and the furor dies down.

Whichever option occurs, we should be able to see more. I think at least.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

How is that a measure of how things will shakeout? It is a voluntary camp and he has already said he will not be there.
When Allen or Shanahan talk about changing the status quo we are talking about level of play, level of coaching and winning. Working out together, sitting in a circle, holding hands and singing Kumbaya is not going make us a better team.
There is no magical team summer workout or team togetherness activity that is going to make us a better team.
If Haynesworth were a QB or offensive skill position then I see the need for him to be here. But to see him decide which gap to take in a non-contact drill is pointless. He is a DL not a rocket scientist.
It is funny how Farve (a QB) can skip everything, summer workouts, training camp and preseason; show up for one preseason game and nobody in the press calls him a cancer.
But when Haynesworth skips volunteer shit he is called a cancer.
Double standard?

Actually as I remember it, virtually every pundit was calling him out for being a distraction, Diva, etc. AND several former head coaches iterated similar things as well as "if he played for me...he'd be GONE mentalities".
AND, AND if........Big Al is going to have ME problems that possibly could interfere with what MS and BA are building, I would ship his ass out on the first reasonable trade offer...........

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

How is that a measure of how things will shakeout? It is a voluntary camp and he has already said he will not be there.
When Allen or Shanahan talk about changing the status quo we are talking about level of play, level of coaching and winning. Working out together, sitting in a circle, holding hands and singing Kumbaya is not going make us a better team.
There is no magical team summer workout or team togetherness activity that is going to make us a better team.
If Haynesworth were a QB or offensive skill position then I see the need for him to be here. But to see him decide which gap to take in a non-contact drill is pointless. He is a DL not a rocket scientist.
It is funny how Farve (a QB) can skip everything, summer workouts, training camp and preseason; show up for one preseason game and nobody in the press calls him a cancer.
But when Haynesworth skips volunteer shit he is called a cancer.
Double standard?

Well this is pretty easy to answer. Because Favre's head coach publicly said he can take as much time as he wants.

What have the Redskins won with Al? What was our record last year? What was Favre's record last year? How many Super Bowls has Al been to? It isn't a double standard because Al hasn't earned special treatment.

His coach wants him there and he can't be a team player even though he just made 21 million. That is why it is a problem.

Why is this so hard to understand?

[tryfuhl]

Yeah that came on the 5th I think.. on the 6th they pulled out the j/k

[tryfuhl]

This has turned into a damned shibacle

[12thMan]

it's incredible to me how people can't see that Haynesworth, though a talented athlete, is being selfish in this instance. And he's coming across with the very attitude that has hindered the franchise in years past. That's was so wrong about it to me. Sure it's his RIGHT to work out with his personal trainer, but that still doesn't make it alright.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

it's incredible to me how people can't see that Haynesworth, though a talented athlete, is being selfish in this instance. And he's coming across with the very attitude that has hindered the franchise in years past. That's was so wrong about it to me. Sure it's his RIGHT to work out with his personal trainer, but that still doesn't make it alright.

Is it alright for Rocky McIntosh to work out with his personal trainer?

[celts32]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Is it alright for Rocky McIntosh to work out with his personal trainer?

No but don't we want to trade him also?

[RememberRFK]

Trade him to Oakland... ye, that's the ticket! giggity!

[TheBackupKicker]

its too late not to trade him he will be gone in the next 12 days and we will bring in marshall

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by RememberRFK

Trade him to Oakland... ye, that's the ticket! giggity!

They've got some good LB's (Howard, Morrison), CB Asomugha, RB Michael Bush, any combination of player/players and draft pick/picks would do.