New possible trade/draft scenarios

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

Kiper was just saying that he thinks the skins should get Okung with our first and in the fourth round we should get up and coming star Ramone Harewood from Morehouse College. Any one know anything about this guy?

heard he did well at the Senior Bowl.. big guy

[CultBrennan59]

He played at the Senior bowl? I thought it was the texas vs the nation or east west shrine game

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

He played at the Senior bowl? I thought it was the texas vs the nation or east west shrine game

he was at both.. senior bowl and texas vs nation

[CultBrennan59]

^ does anyone remember how he performed? I think we should get Jason Fox though over this guy, because Fox is a natural fit for the Zone blocking scheme, this guy seems slow and a big body guy, which isn't exactly what you want in the ZBS

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

^ does anyone remember how he performed? I think we should get Jason Fox though over this guy, because Fox is a natural fit for the Zone blocking scheme, this guy seems slow and a big body guy, which isn't exactly what you want in the ZBS

Ramon Harewood (Morehouse) was a left tackle in college. He was quite impressive at right guard for team Texas in the game, pushing guys off the line and looking very comfortable getting to the second level to take out smaller defenders. He gave West Texas A&M running back Keithon Flemming big holes to run through. Flemming's vision, toughness, quick cuts and stiff arm were eye-opening.

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just read he was pretty solid in practices too

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Yep, Haynesworth and Landry could be moved (Haynesworth will be tougher because of cost).


Donovan McNabb trade: Albert Haynesworth, LaRon Landry reportedly offered to Eagles

The Donovan McNabb trade story is about more than a quarterback. The Redskins reportedly offered defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth to the Eagles in exchange for McNabb.

There are multiple reports now that Haynesworth was part of the negotiations, and we'd heard this weekend that the team was shopping the talented defensive tackle around, too (to whom, though, wasn't clear until Sunday night).

If true, it's very telling that the team was willing to part ways with Haynesworth after just one season. Owner Daniel Snyder signed him to the mega-deal just 13 months ago; to send him packing now means that the new regime 1) isn't certain how he fits into its plans, or 2) simply doesn't want him in their building. Shanahan has made it clear that he wants to see commitment from every player and he's disappointed that Haynesworth isn't participating in the team's offseason conditioning program.

Depending on when the Redskins offered Haynesworth, it could also show just how desperate they are to get rid of him. Last Thursday, Haynesworth was paid a $21 million contract bonus. If the Redskins were still trying to include him in the trade over the weekend, that means they'd be okay with the possibility of paying Haynesworth tens of millions of dollars for essentially 12 football games. It's more likely Haynesworth was part of the discussions before the bonus was paid out, which simply means that despite the major financial commitment made a year ago in free agency, the new staff is not nearly as keen on Haynesworth as the old one.

There are clearly no sacred cows at Redskins Park. Jason Campbell's days are numbered (although the team has no leverage in any deal with potential suitors), and reports also indicate that the Redskins offered Philadelphia safety LaRon Landry, the Redskins' first-round pick in the 2007 draft. That, coupled with the fact that Eric Berry was in town for a pre-draft visit, could lead you to believe the Redskins feel they can afford to upgrade mightily at the safety position.

A year ago at this time, it seemed like Haynesworth and Landry were both crucial cogs to the Redskins' defense. Quite a change if their most important role right now is as trade bait.

Best post on this was the poster(forget who it was) told it was like it is. AH is a lazy slacker, and simply doesn't fit into a 3-4 scheme. Why we gave the guy suck a crazy contract still boggles my mind. Our team was not going to improve significantly with AH on board since the offense was the weakest link. Shoot the Bruce Smith acquisition was better than this.

[NYCskinfan82]

[QUOTE=GusFrerotte;684463]Best post on this was the poster(forget who it was) told it was like it is. AH is a lazy slacker, and simply doesn't fit into a 3-4 scheme. Why we gave the guy suck a crazy contract still boggles my mind. Our team was not going to improve significantly with AH on board since the offense was the weakest link. Shoot the Bruce Smith acquisition was better than this.[/QUOTE]

You've got to be joking, when we got AH we were a 4-3. AH will be a beast in the 3-4 at RDE.

[jdc65]

Harewood is a BIG dude, 6'6"-350lbs, he projects as a guard due to his size and quickness in space. He is also a 2-3 yr project because of lack of experience; he is from Barbados until recently, and lack of quality competition. Everywhere that I have read has him projected as a 6-7th rd or undrafted. Calloway, Newhouse, and Wang all are rated higher in the boards I have seen as potential 4th rounders. Fox is an option in the 4th, but he has several medical red flags.

[internetcareer]

Originally Posted by NYCskinfan82

You've got to be joking, when we got AH we were a 4-3. AH will be a beast in the 3-4 at RDE.

I agree with you completely and some folks do not get it.

Why some of these people even spend a minute worrying about how much money Albert is making...I have no clue. What does it matter? Is your paycheck affected by how much he makes? No! Will it improve your life if Albert makes less money? NO! His paycheck and his ability have no relationship at all.
Dan Snyder pays his salary, and there is no cap this year. Why would anybody care if Snyder buys him a house and deposits 60 million dollars in Alberts bank account. WHO CARES?
An another thing...as far as his ability. This guy is the best defensive tackle in the league when healthy. So he plays 12 games per year. I would rather have an all pro for 12 games than Montgomery in there for all 16. Haynesworth will be even better as a DE in the 3-4. He will DESTROY.

[NYCskinfan82]

Originally Posted by internetcareer

I agree with you completely and some folks do not get it.

Why some of these people even spend a minute worrying about how much money Albert is making...I have no clue. What does it matter? Is your paycheck affected by how much he makes? No! Will it improve your life if Albert makes less money? NO! His paycheck and his ability have no relationship at all.
Dan Snyder pays his salary, and there is no cap this year. Why would anybody care if Snyder buys him a house and deposits 60 million dollars in Alberts bank account. WHO CARES?
An another thing...as far as his ability. This guy is the best defensive tackle in the league when healthy. So he plays 12 games per year. I would rather have an all pro for 12 games than Montgomery in there for all 16. Haynesworth will be even better as a DE in the 3-4. He will DESTROY.

You know what's going to happen they will trade him for a player & some draft picks, then we will have an Offense & no Defense & people will be yelling why we cant stop anyone.

[Mechanix544]

Originally Posted by NYCskinfan82

You know what's going to happen they will trade him for a player & some draft picks, then we will have an Offense & no Defense & people will be yelling why we cant stop anyone.

Sorry, quoted the wrong one. I meant to put the one that says we will go downhill on D if he leaves......cant find it tho.

Nah, I disagree. Our defense was fine without A.H., and we didn't have orakpo then either. Our defense will be fine without him, decided we go that route. I wish he would get serious and commit and get hyped about going to the superbowl with this new look squad. He could really take steps to become a locker room leader, but he doesn't. He keeps to himself and doesn't take part in what amounts to team building exercises, like the off season workouts and meetings. He should be the defensive player IN CHARGE, a captain on the other side of the ball. I dont get him. The opportunity is right in front of him, yet he remains standoffish and quiet. He is richer than 99.9% of the world, and famous at the same time. so what gives? Be a leader, give your all, and he could do great things, and get the ppl around him to do great things. I mean, look what he helped Carter and Orakpo and the rest of our defense do in a year where he played very much below his potential. He has the potential to be the best damn DLineman ever to play the game.

I hope he gets his act strait and starts becoming the leader he should be. He has all the strength and potential in the world, and he should use that to get to the big time, the super bowl. Use this season to prove everyone wrong that says the trade was a bust, and he is overpaid.

Part of becoming a team leader also entails that you cannot be anti-social either Albert.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by jdc65

Harewood is a BIG dude, 6'6"-350lbs, he projects as a guard due to his size and quickness in space. He is also a 2-3 yr project because of lack of experience; he is from Barbados until recently, and lack of quality competition. Everywhere that I have read has him projected as a 6-7th rd or undrafted. Calloway, Newhouse, and Wang all are rated higher in the boards I have seen as potential 4th rounders. Fox is an option in the 4th, but he has several medical red flags.

Do you mean short area quickness? Because if he has size and quickness in space he becomes an ideal tackle prospect.

[Mechanix544]

Originally Posted by jdc65

Harewood is a BIG dude, 6'6"-350lbs, he projects as a guard due to his size and quickness in space. He is also a 2-3 yr project because of lack of experience; he is from Barbados until recently, and lack of quality competition. Everywhere that I have read has him projected as a 6-7th rd or undrafted. Calloway, Newhouse, and Wang all are rated higher in the boards I have seen as potential 4th rounders. Fox is an option in the 4th, but he has several medical red flags.

That basically says he is slower than feces with a consistency of molasses exiting a small poop chute??

[JLee9718]

The 'Skins won't find anyone willing to take Portis off of their hands because he has around 8 mil coming to him, and that's guaranteed. It looks like we overpaid him along with Haynesworth. But that was Dan and Vinny, and I hope we find some desperate team willing to take both of them.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Do you mean short area quickness? Because if he has size and quickness in space he becomes an ideal tackle prospect.

well that's what he played mostly, but played guard @ texas vs the nation

stood out in practices at senior bowl as RT and LT

lack of recovery speed if beaten initially I've read.. so still prob a guard prospect