Stop the Madness, T.O. should be a skin (but he's not, he's a Bengal)

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I don't think he's going to get that much money anywhere unless a team is desperate (i.e. a wideout blows out his knee during training camp).

Rumor was he was asking like 6 or 7 mill a yr. Recently reports are he would accept a couple of mill less which is supposed to be right around his ball park according to some pundits.

[MonkFan4Life]

Dodge shit ! Bring that dude here. He'll open things up for everyone else. We've got to be honest about this, say that he's lost it all you want but that guy is still a force to be reckoned with. Until the 5th WR on this roster ends up being better than him, I feel he should be here.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by MonkFan4Life

Dodge shit ! Bring that dude here. He'll open things up for everyone else. We've got to be honest about this, say that he's lost it all you want but that guy is still a force to be reckoned with. Until the 5th WR on this roster ends up being better than him, I feel he should be here.

Dude I'm with you on this one. If you asked me prior to this season I'd have said no, but I think Shanny can handle him and we need the help. No one else will come as cheap, everyone else will require draft picks.

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

You know what if we are going to get a WR lets get VJ. Screw TO. I'll pay the price for Vincent if we need a guy that bad. Can VJ be our Andre Johnson? If he can we should get that dude.

[MTK]

^^ You seem to be remembering the TO of 3-4 years ago.

At this point he's not a guy that strikes fear in a defense.

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

^^ You seem to be remembering the TO of 3-4 years ago.

At this point he's not a guy that strikes fear in a defense.

Plus, if he were to come here, he'd expect to move right into the starting lineup as no less than the second receiver. Anything less than that, I can imagine him being the true malcontent he is. As usual with him it's risk vs. reward.

[SkinzWin]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

^^ You seem to be remembering the TO of 3-4 years ago.

At this point he's not a guy that strikes fear in a defense.

Ok so maybe he is not the TO of old, but he still is not Joey Galloway. I'm sorry but you can not tell me a 38 year old should be there over TO. I never have liked the guy, but from a football perspective he has the most left in the tank at the lowest price, especially not having to give up picks, that the Redskins can get.

2009 Season Stats

Santana Moss
Rec-70 Yards-902 TD-3 AVG-12.9
Terrell Owens
Rec-55 Yards-829 TD-5 AVG-15.1
A. Randle EL
Rec-50 Yards-530 TD-0 AVG-10.6
Devin Thomas
Rec-25 Yards-325 TD-3 AVG-13.0
Malcom Kelly
Rec-25 Yards-347 TD-0 AVG-13.9

My Points:
1. Statistically, Moss barely edged out Owens in receptions and yards. Owens dominated everyone else on our roster.
2. Owens played for BUFFALO last year. Who is terrible. Who has no offense. And he still put up numbers better than almost all of our WRs.
3. Owens is motivated to play against Dallas and Philly twice a year and stick it to them.
4. He is by far the cheapest option available to us without losing draft picks and possibly a low salary.

I know he has a storied past and he has not been the greatest locker room presence, but he wants to play, he still can play, and as a football move I think he would be the best option because of what he could bring at a substantially lower price than anyone else we could get. Shanny can handle his ego and personality. I know a lot of people don't like him, I know I never really have. But you have to look at it pragmatically, for what's best for the Skins, and I think this is it.

[MTK]

ESPN: Jets join Bengals considering possible addition of Terrell Owens - The Huddle: Football News from the NFL - USATODAY.com

[MTK]

I think Galloway is here as more of a mentor type. You can't argue he's a much better locker room guy than TO, plus he's much cheaper.

[SkinzWin]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I think Galloway is here as more of a mentor type. You can't argue he's a much better locker room guy than TO, plus he's much cheaper.

I know he's in kind of a mentor role. I was just trying to make it as a point to people who say he shouldn't be here. It's a roll of the dice in the end, but one I think is well worth the risk.

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

Well we would have to get an offer in soon, the Bengals reportedly have a deadline to accept the offer by tommorow and the Jets have contacted Rosenhaus to possibly sign him as well. The TO ship is about to sail and we aren't in the plans.

The more you analyze TO to the Skins the more it becomes a REACH. I just don't see how putting him and DM together again when you are trying to rebuild the culture here in DC is a positive thing. It would be a real gamble by MS and BA to have a situation that can become volitale at any time.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by artmonkforhallofamein07

Well we would have to get an offer in soon, the Bengals reportedly have a deadline to accept the offer by tommorow and the Jets have contacted Rosenhaus to possibly sign him as well. The TO ship is about to sail and we aren't in the plans.

The more you analyze TO to the Skins the more it becomes a REACH. I just don't see how putting him and DM together again when you are trying to rebuild the culture here in DC is a positive thing. It would be a real gamble by MS and BA to have a situation that can become volitale at any time.

Well said. I think they have enough on their plate with AH.

[sandtrapjack]

I just don't think Owens is needed in Washington, with Galloway and Moss and Kelly and Thomas.

Now if Galloway was not there, maybe. But you just don't need Owens.

[MonkFan4Life]

Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

I just don't think Owens is needed in Washington, with Galloway and Moss and Kelly and Thomas.

Now if Galloway was not there, maybe. But you just don't need Owens.

Suck a dick ! You're WR core is straight. Ours isn't. You have a Big WR that can be a threat, we don't. Besides that's 4 dudes we could always use a 5th. But for all the bitching that the Skins fans here do about Kelly why wouldn't we bring in TO ? But I guess Kelly is cool now because it's him or TO. I'm sorry for the suck a dick comment but I hope you understood that was in jest. But seriously, suck a dick, don't tell me what we don't need when you know for yourself that it will be an improvement. Like I said, Witten ran free and you know it. Now you have Austin so you don't need a TO type anymore, but as of right now, we don't have one of those.

[sandtrapjack]

Originally Posted by MonkFan4Life

Suck a dick ! You're WR core is straight. Ours isn't. You have a Big WR that can be a threat, we don't. Besides that's 4 dudes we could always use a 5th. But for all the bitching that the Skins fans here do about Kelly why wouldn't we bring in TO ? But I guess Kelly is cool now because it's him or TO. I'm sorry for the suck a dick comment but I hope you understood that was in jest. But seriously, suck a dick, don't tell me what we don't need when you know for yourself that it will be an improvement. Like I said, Witten ran free and you know it. Now you have Austin so you don't need a TO type anymore, but as of right now, we don't have one of those.

He's 37 years old. He will NOT produce, or come near, the numbers he produced in Philly or Dallas. Not even close. Be realistic in this process man, just think about it. Do you really expect him to do any better than he did in Buffalo? Wherever he lands, I dont expect him to get any more than 2 to 3 catches per game, maybe 600 yards for the whole season and 3 or 4 TD's. Don't get wrapped up in a name here.

Where does he fall on your depth chart? You gonna put Galloway at 3 on the depth chart? That leaves Kelly and Thomas scraping for playing time and dedicated primarily to Special teams. Thus delaying any further development. I'm not convinced that thier development may have been hindered by the previuos coaching regime. I still do not think we know what they have there is all.

Washington does not need Owens.