Matt Barkley Stays (QB Draft Prospect Thread-Episode IV)

[Shadowbyte]

If we don't get RG3 then I want Kellan Moore. Despite his physical short commings the kid is a straight baller. There's no way a guy that determined and accurate will fail in the NFL. I mean he only has 3 career losses, with only one you could actually blame him for. That's phenomenal.

[skinsfaninok]

Yeah I see what your saying shadow and Moore played plenty of good teams like GA, VT etc other than his conf games. He's a winner

[SkinItup]

How much should we give up to get Luck?

If the Rams get the first pick they might be willing to move back a few spots for a high price since they have so many needs.

I'd give them 1st, 2nd, and 4th in 2012 and 1st and 3rd in 2013 and maybe swap our 1st for their 3rd in 2014.

It is a high price trade-wise but with the rookie wage cap we can have a starting qb for just alittle over 5 million a year for a few years. That is a bargin. We can then afford to put some talent around him in FA.

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by SkinItup

How much should we give up to get Luck?

If the Rams get the first pick they might be willing to move back a few spots for a high price since they have so many needs.

I'd give them 1st, 2nd, and 4th in 2012 and 1st and 3rd in 2013 and maybe swap our 1st for their 3rd in 2014.

It is a high price trade-wise but with the rookie wage cap we can have a starting qb for just alittle over 5 million a year for a few years. That is a bargin. We can then afford to put some talent around him in FA.

Great Question, Glazer said the asking price is possibly 3 first rounders.

Thats the max I would do for this 'sure thing' of a prospect. I would swap first rounders this year with the rams, throw in DHall and Jamal Brown if they want him. Then I would trade them my first rounder in 2013 and 2015. I would also trade my 2nd rounder in 2012. I would consider trading Landry as well. The Rams need a CB and a OT so thats why I'd throw in those two. If its the Colts, well, it ain't happening.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Swap 1sts in 2012, 1st in 2013, 1st in 2015, and swap 2nds in 2013. They don't get Hall or Landry. Maybe Brown but I like his depth.

[Dirtbag59]

Alright new plans.

Plan A:
1st - Justin Blackmon - WR - OKST
2nd - BPA - Preferably an ILB, Safety, or an OL
Sign Matt Flynn to contract and try to shoot for RG3, Barkley, or Jones next year.

Plan B:
1st - Justin Blackmon - WR - OKST
Late 1st - Nick Foles - QB - Arizona State
Trade 2nd and 3rd to move up into late first to take Foles.

Plan B-2:
1st - Justin Blackmon - WR - OKST
2nd - Nick Foles - QB - Arizona State
Expect Foles to drop to our spot in the scond.

I've accepted that Kellen Moore will be a slightly rich mans Cult Brennan.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

Alright new plans.

Plan A:
1st - Justin Blackmon - WR - OKST
2nd - BPA - Preferably an ILB, Safety, or an OL
Sign Matt Flynn to contract and try to shoot for RG3, Barkley, or Jones next year.

Plan B:
1st - Justin Blackmon - WR - OKST
Late 1st - Nick Foles - QB - Arizona State
Trade 2nd and 3rd to move up into late first to take Foles.

Plan B-2:
1st - Justin Blackmon - WR - OKST
2nd - Nick Foles - QB - Arizona State
Expect Foles to drop to our spot in the scond.

I've accepted that Kellen Moore will be a slightly rich mans Cult Brennan.

If we don't go QB in round 1 with RGIII or Luck then I want either:

1st rd: Justin Blackmon
2nd rd: Ryan Tannehill

or

1st rd: Morris Claiborne
2nd rd: Ryan Tannehill

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

If we don't go QB in round 1 with RGIII or Luck then I want either:

1st rd: Justin Blackmon
2nd rd: Ryan Tannehill

or

1st rd: Morris Claiborne
2nd rd: Ryan Tannehill

I really like your scenarios but a lot of folks think that Tannehill will not make it past the mid-first round.

Perhaps we could trade back from 7 to 14, picking up an extra second, take Tannehill at 14, and then put a package together to move back into the first and grab a receiver late in the round.

Maybe. Just musing.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by Lotus

I really like your scenarios but a lot of folks think that Tannehill will not make it past the mid-first round.

Perhaps we could trade back from 7 to 14, picking up an extra second, take Tannehill at 14, and then put a package together to move back into the first and grab a receiver late in the round.

Maybe. Just musing.

True and it depends on if Jones and RGIII come out.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

True and it depends on if Jones and RGIII come out.

You are on the right track. It would be nice to have a stud QB and a stud WR so that we can get a triplets thing going.

[musicmaster45]

Plan B. Idk i wanna a qb that can be with us for a while young.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

I still am going to say RGIII is a Redskin in April, along with Kellen Moore.

[skinsfaninok]

Crazy Bold Pred: Andrew Luck

Probable: Sam Bradford

[GTripp0012]

I'm trying to think of recent first round pick quarterbacks who weren't really great athletes. I guess there were a couple. Bradford isn't a great athlete. Leinart doesn't move that well. Rivers is well built, but doesn't get to display his athleticism much. Peyton is a bit underrated as an athlete, but he's still more statue than anything. And, well, then there was the 2003 draft which totally broke script (Palmer, Leftwich, Grossman).

By and large, the tendency for teams with first round quarterbacks is to lean towards passers who are also pretty good athletes. Luck, RG3, and Tannehill are fantastic athletes. Foles and Landry Jones are rather bow-legged. In recent history, those who lack athleticism have had a tough time getting picked high at the QB position. They are not the prototype anymore, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't consider them.

[diehard]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I'm trying to think of recent first round pick quarterbacks who weren't really great athletes. I guess there were a couple. Bradford isn't a great athlete. Leinart doesn't move that well. Rivers is well built, but doesn't get to display his athleticism much. Peyton is a bit underrated as an athlete, but he's still more statue than anything. And, well, then there was the 2003 draft which totally broke script (Palmer, Leftwich, Grossman).

By and large, the tendency for teams with first round quarterbacks is to lean towards passers who are also pretty good athletes. Luck, RG3, and Tannehill are fantastic athletes. Foles and Landry Jones are rather bow-legged. In recent history, those who lack athleticism have had a tough time getting picked high at the QB position. They are not the prototype anymore, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't consider them.

I don't recall Ponder being touted as athletic but, he sure as hell looked it.