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Old 09-18-2012, 11:16 AM   #1
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Re: Orakpo and Carriker Done for Season

Keenan Robinson was drafted to be the next London Fletcher. Lets see if the Texas LB can fill Orapkpo's shoes.
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Old 09-18-2012, 01:37 PM   #2
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Re: Orakpo and Carriker Done for Season

The depth chart, post-Rak and Carriker - Rich Tandler's Real Redskins

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Starters: RE Jarvis Jenkins, NT Barry Cofield, LE Stephen Bowen
Reserves: E Kedric Golston, E Worthington, NT Chris Baker

Jenkins gets his big opportunity and there is no reason to think that he won’t handle it well. After all, the Redskins drafted him in the second round to take over for Carriker at some point and that might have been this year had Jenkins’ not missed all of last season with a torn ACL.

This is not to say that there won’t be a dropoff with Carriker out, at least in the short term. He was the starter for a reason and Jenkins is far from a finished product.

Jenkins still might fill in to give Cofield a rest in nickel situations while Baker, who was inactive in the first two games, will rotate in at NT on some running downs. Golston moves up to being the top reserve at DE.

Linebacker

Starters: OLB’s Ryan Kerrigan, Rob Jackson; ILB’s Perry Riley, London Fletcher
Reserves: OLB’s White, Chris Wilson; ILB’s Lorenzo Alexander, Keenan Robinson

The Redskins have been an anomaly in the NFL in that their four linebackers stay on the field for virtually every snap. That could change as the Redskins want to give both Jackson and Wilson at shot at winning Orakpo’s job. They could end up rotating situationally as they determine the strengths and weaknesses of each.

The other reserve linebackers will continue to do what they have done, play special teams and wait to see if their opportunity comes up.
Honestly this is what quality depth gives you. While Rak and Carriker were the starters for clear reasons, I tend to think that with time the reserves will step up and show themselves well.
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Old 09-18-2012, 01:43 PM   #3
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Re: Orakpo and Carriker Done for Season

Wilson was a preseason beast. Let's hope he can step it up while the real lights are on.
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Re: Orakpo and Carriker Done for Season

No one is talking about how rare it was for Bradford to have deep drops. He was getting the ball out so quick, even the best blitzing team wouldn't get to him.
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No one is talking about how rare it was for Bradford to have deep drops. He was getting the ball out so quick, even the best blitzing team wouldn't get to him.
that's when a good defense starts pressing the WRs. We didn't do that.
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No one is talking about how rare it was for Bradford to have deep drops. He was getting the ball out so quick, even the best blitzing team wouldn't get to him.
They have been his while career though. I mean ill blame the amendola crap on that but on some other throws he had all tge time in the world?

Alot of passes were quick release and I blame our poor coverage/scheme for them to keep hitting us with them, but our inability to get to Bradford cannot be overlooked. I think the best blitzing teams would have gotten to him or atleast hurried him into alittle less accuracy.

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Old 09-19-2012, 03:26 AM   #7
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They have been his while career though. I mean ill blame the amendola crap on that but on some other throws he had all tge time in the world?

Alot of passes were quick release and I blame our poor coverage/scheme for them to keep hitting us with them, but our inability to get to Bradford cannot be overlooked. I think the best blitzing teams would have gotten to him or atleast hurried him into alittle less accuracy.
Sometimes a QB is going to have time to throw the ball. Even the best don't put pressure on the QB 24/7.. Bradford quick release and drops was the reason he wasn't getting sacked. We were not pressing the WR's so it's easy to throw a 5 yard hitch or slant and watch your WR run for 4-8 more.
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Re: Orakpo and Carriker Done for Season

Why isn't Lorenzo getting a shot at OLB? Does his skill set not match the position?
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Why isn't Lorenzo getting a shot at OLB? Does his skill set not match the position?
He's already playing ILB and you have Wilson, Jackson and White.
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Why isn't Lorenzo getting a shot at OLB? Does his skill set not match the position?
He could play OLB but someone with more speed would be more ideal IMO.
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Re: Orakpo and Carriker Done for Season

Glad to have White back. He makes the competition for Raks spot that much stronger. Wouldn't mind seeing him at DE occasionally on passing downs either.
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Glad to have White back. He makes the competition for Raks spot that much stronger. Wouldn't mind seeing him at DE occasionally on passing downs either.
I like him better than Jackson and Wilson.
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Old 09-18-2012, 11:00 PM   #13
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Trying to make the best of a bad situation. Now is the time to implement a new defensive scheme in my opinion. Why not go with a 4 man front of Kerrigan-Bowen-Cofield-Jackson with steady substitutions?

I'd like to see more nickel as a base D with Crawford as the primary n-back. Teams are passing over 60% of the time, and a 4-2-5 would seem to be a better fit in today's game. Gomes or Meriweather would be used as a hybrid linebacker-safety to stop the running game and cover the tight end.

Also now is be the time to go with a steady press-man cover scheme with Wilson covering the #1, Crawford-Griffin #2, and Hall the slot or back. Having 2 safeties gives protection against the deep ball still, and Hall is always in position to blitz or help with run support. Have to disrupt receivers' patterns to throw timing off, and play a more aggressive, physical brand of football without all out blitzes leaving the secondary vulnerable.

It's all about utilizing talent with positive matchups. Keeping the 4 man front fresh throughout the game while minimizing linebacker coverage responsibilities seems the best fit for the current roster in my honest opinion.
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Trying to make the best of a bad situation. Now is the time to implement a new defensive scheme in my opinion. Why not go with a 4 man front of Kerrigan-Bowen-Cofield-Jackson with steady substitutions?

I'd like to see more nickel as a base D with Crawford as the primary n-back. Teams are passing over 60% of the time, and a 4-2-5 would seem to be a better fit in today's game. Gomes or Meriweather would be used as a hybrid linebacker-safety to stop the running game and cover the tight end.

Also now is be the time to go with a steady press-man cover scheme with Wilson covering the #1, Crawford-Griffin #2, and Hall the slot or back. Having 2 safeties gives protection against the deep ball still, and Hall is always in position to blitz or help with run support. Have to disrupt receivers' patterns to throw timing off, and play a more aggressive, physical brand of football without all out blitzes leaving the secondary vulnerable.

It's all about utilizing talent with positive matchups. Keeping the 4 man front fresh throughout the game while minimizing linebacker coverage responsibilities seems the best fit for the current roster in my honest opinion.
It's a solid argument. Our dline personnel are undoubtedly (still) better suited for a 4-3 defense, and the LB group would be an easy switch back as London is the key to it anyway.

I remember putting three safeties on the field for certain packages in years past too. Was it under Blache or Haslett?
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It's a solid argument. Our dline personnel are undoubtedly (still) better suited for a 4-3 defense, and the LB group would be an easy switch back as London is the key to it anyway.

I remember putting three safeties on the field for certain packages in years past too. Was it under Blache or Haslett?
Blache's Cobra package.
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