Skins-Jags Positives and Negatives

[punch it in]

Only thing i keep thinking about Griff is how awkward he is. Its weird. He is an unbelievable athlete, but when he is running, jumping, sliding, it is awkward as hell. He has these unnatural motions that a non athlete would have. He is fast but so not graceful. Andrew Luck made a similar bootleg jump pass last week and looked like Derek Jeter fielding a ball and making the throw to first all in one motion. Griff tries it and lands funny and hurts his ankle. Wtf?

[SouperMeister]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Only thing i keep thinking about Griff is how awkward he is. Its weird. He is an unbelievable athlete, but when he is running, jumping, sliding, it is awkward as hell. He has these unnatural motions that a non athlete would have. He is fast but so not graceful. Andrew Luck made a similar bootleg jump pass last week and looked like Derek Jeter fielding a ball and making the throw to first all in one motion. Griff tries it and lands funny and hurts his ankle. Wtf?

Watch the play again. He didn't hurt himself on the landing. His left ankle dislocated when he cut sharply upfield to avoid the LB, then he took one more step and jumped from his right foot, then threw the pass. I believe that he jumped to avoid taking another step on his left foot. Watch the replay again, and I'm sure you will see that play differently. It was actually rather athletic, that he threw an accurate pass, and avoided landing on the injured ankle.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by SouperMeister

Watch the play again. He didn't hurt himself on the landing. His left ankle dislocated when he cut sharply upfield to avoid the LB, then he took one more step and jumped from his right foot, then threw the pass. I believe that he jumped to avoid taking another step on his left foot. Watch the replay again, and I'm sure you will see that play differently. It was actually rather athletic, that he threw an accurate pass, and avoided landing on the injured ankle.

Yeah he hurt it going up - my bad on the wording but the rest of my statement still stands imo.

[ethat001]

Orthopedic specialists estimate Griffin out eight weeks to full season

"[three orthopedic specialists guess that] ...Griffin will likely miss eight weeks under the rosiest scenario, and all season under the bleakest. ...

...Dr. Dan Pereles, USA Rugby’s team orthopedic surgeon and medical consultant to the PGA Tour, has treated athletes with ankle dislocations and said those that don’t include a fracture of at least some bone are rare.

....Dr. Mark Adickes, who did Griffin’s original anterior cruciate ligament repair, said he hadn’t seen any of the results but said that “chances are nearly 100 percent that there is also a fracture,” which will not be known until the MRI exam is done.

Adickes says if there is a fracture, that’s almost better because there will be less ligament damage and then the ankle must be re-set and the bone must heal. Even so, the doctor predicts a four-month recovery time at the minimum, and that precedes rehabilitation work to restore range of motion and explosiveness.

Adickes said “I think it’s very unlikely he plays again this season

Didn't see this posted but we'll find out tomorrow. Looks like it's likely Cousin's team for the year, although RG3 always tries to rush things back..

Of course, remember -- he's superhuman.

[tc2deuce]

I love RGIII and truly believe he has the skills and the brain to lead us to the Super Bowl but he has become damaged goods. I pray he will shut these haters up but now I am backing number 8 bc he is now QB1

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by tc2deuce

I love RGIII and truly believe he has the skills and the brain to lead us to the Super Bowl but he has become damaged goods. I pray he will shut these haters up but now I am backing number 8 bc he is now QB1

I wouldn't say he's damaged goods. But we are talking about a track athlete that's on his 3rd major injury in 6 years? Where ever he's playing, that team MUST have a legit back-up QB if he's the starter.

[calia]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I wouldn't say he's damaged goods. But we are talking about a track athlete that's on his 3rd major injury in 6 years? Where ever he's playing, that team MUST have a legit back-up QB if he's the starter.

A track athlete? He won the Heisman -- and it wasn't because of running the ball. He threw for a ton of yards and TDs that year. Obviously, he's a track athelete as well, and I would agree he isn't built like Big Ben. But I don't think that folks can chalk this up to the guy being fragile. His ACL was an issue in college, and he obviously had a significant re-injury at the end of 2012. But he worked his way back from that.

Injuries are going to happen -- even to the sturdiest of players. Guys in the NFL are a scary combination of big and fast, and it doesn't even have to be a collision that will cause injury -- take, for example, Jadaveon Clowney. He too got a non-contact injury and I doubt anyone would suggest he's fragile or made of glass. Speed + power = at least occasional injury. Humans didn't evolve to do what these guys do every Sunday.

[tshile]

Positives:
Love to see the next-man-up mentality and it work. Not just Cousins, but across the board with all the injuries.

Defense looked great. It was the Jags, so I'm not convinced they're a top 5 defense yet, but it was a good confidence builder for a team that needed one.

Our punter has a huge leg.

We have a punt returner that doesn't suck.

Jags defense was supposed to be their strong point, our offense was able to do whatever they wanted including run the ball at will.

No turnovers.

Good play calling.

Amerson is a beast. This will be on the good column more often than not all season.

Trent Ronbinson is a stud. Maybe not ready for full time safety duty, but he's a young guy worth paying attention to any time he gets playing time on defense.

Negatives:
Injuries. There were many of them and it's hard to watch, especially when Griffin started out looking so well and really needed to get his confidence back.

Trent Williams penalty - from where I sat it looked like an equipment problem and the ref flagged him for removing his helmet? Not really sure what happened there.

Hall penalty - I was coming around on Hall and then he does stupid crap like this. He needs to grow up. Hopefully he wont be needed next year and we'll be watching two young guys in Amerson and Breeland take over.

Rambo is awful. Not shocking, he's not only not a smart player but he's a dumb player. Dumb penalties, bad angles, lost in coverage. The story of his career to date, including preseason. All mental issues. You can't fix that, unfortunately. Waste of a pick. I want to believe otherwise, but watching him get two personal fouls for late hits in his rookie preseason game showed me he doesn't have the intelligence to play at this level. He's done nothing but continue to prove that's the case...

Forbath did't do one of the kick offs - do we have a problem at this position? What is going on here...

Niles Paul - for all his good play, he just has an issue with shining in big moments... he seems to, pardon the pun, drop the ball...

[MTK]

Originally Posted by tshile

Forbath did't do one of the kick offs - do we have a problem at this position? What is going on here...

Forbath had a sore groin so he was on FGs only.

[tshile]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Forbath had a sore groin so he was on FGs only.

interesting... something i missed on the other kickoffs...

thank you for that

[2BIG2BSKINNY]

As I Sat Euphorically seeing the Skins win in convincing fashion, that is something that we have not done in so long! so long that My 13 Year old son said "it was the first time the Skins looked like the rest of the NFL teams."
But At what price?
I need to come clean as my heart and my brains are in different places.
For years as an organization the Redskins have had very little production at QB [before RG3]...Then we move "Heaven and Earth" and go and get RG3 and I bought in and love this guys character and skills.
So I was a little sad for his injury... for him personally and for the over decade plight of the Redskins to get a QB. I was sick! A lot of questions quickly arose...Like is this the end of RG3 in Washington?
Then Kirk steps in and we get things moving. I do not think all of a sudden Cousins is an all star! But Redskins history has always told me that we just need a quarterback to lead the ship and get the most out of everyone else. We've won super bowls in the past with average to good quarterbacks. So I am excited to see what we have in him.

I need to remind myself to not to get to high or to low per situation.
A lot of things will unfold in the coming year. I as always am bucked up for the ride!

[MTK]

I think people are trying too hard to stick with the narrative that Griffin's playing style opens him up for injury. Rolling out and throwing on the run is something all QBs do, sometimes several times a game. It's unfortunate he landed wrong on that ankle, but injuries happen and sometimes they can't be prevented.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I think people are trying too hard to stick with the narrative that Griffin's playing style opens him up for injury. Rolling out and throwing on the run is something all QBs do, sometimes several times a game. It's unfortunate he landed wrong on that ankle, but injuries happen and sometimes they can't be prevented.

Its unfortunate some guys just cant stay healthy enough in the NFL. I think thats the fact we are facing. I dont think it has to do with style of play, offense, etc.

Love RG3, but 2 major injuries in different areas in 3 years is going to be tough to come back from. It sets us back even more, because of the learning curve of becoming a pocket passer.

Folks, Cousins has an opportunity of a lifetime right now. If he plays well and leads the team to a 9+ win season, the decision is made. If he struggles, we got tough choices to make.

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I think people are trying too hard to stick with the narrative that Griffin's playing style opens him up for injury. Rolling out and throwing on the run is something all QBs do, sometimes several times a game. It's unfortunate he landed wrong on that ankle, but injuries happen and sometimes they can't be prevented.

It just looks more awkward when he does it, for some reason. Like others have said, he just looks gangly out there

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by 44Deezel

It just looks more awkward when he does it, for some reason. Like others have said, he just looks gangly out there

I agree. He is like a gazelle running in a herd of cape buffaloes; it seems as if the poor gazelle is bound to get hurt, one way or another.

It is such a shame that RGIII, a magnificent athlete, continues to have these severe injuries. I wish him a speedy, full recovery.