The after London semi-meltdown thread.

FrenchSkin · 11-01-2016, 06:10 AM

Watching the game again, I think we didn't emphasize how good the O-line played! Pass protection was really great, although Cincy was blitzing a lot. Good job on the running game, 3.2 yards/attempt with only 31 attempts isn't bad, is it?

JoeRedskin · 11-01-2016, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by FrenchSkin

Watching the game again, I think we didn't emphasize how good the O-line played! Pass protection was really great, although Cincy was blitzing a lot. Good job on the running game, 3.2 yards/attempt with only 31 attempts isn't bad, is it?

We are averaging 24.8 attempts per game (20th in the league) and 4.5/attempt. (7th in the league). So generally, we rush less than most teams but do so more effectively than most teams. The league median is 4.2 yards per attempt. Only Minnesota averages less than 3.1 per attempt.

2016 NFL Team Rushing Stats - National Football League - ESPN
https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/sta...empts-per-game

We made more attempts and got less yardage per rush. So ...

JoeRedskin · 11-01-2016, 10:18 AM

More stats (and evidence of our RZ issues):
We have the second highest yards gained on offense.
We have the 15th most average points scored per game.

Atlanta is first in both categories.

FrenchSkin · 11-01-2016, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

We are averaging 24.8 attempts per game (20th in the league) and 4.5/attempt. (7th in the league). So generally, we rush less than most teams but do so more effectively than most teams. The league median is 4.2 yards per attempt. Only Minnesota averages less than 3.1 per attempt.

2016 NFL Team Rushing Stats - National Football League - ESPN
https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/sta...empts-per-game

We made more attempts and got less yardage per rush. So ...

How much of that do you think is on the absence of Matt Jones?

Chico23231 · 11-01-2016, 10:37 AM

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How much of that do you think is on the absence of Matt Jones?

Certainly some. Fat Rob left some yards on the field, but that's his first NFL start and he is a rookie. I thought for both instances, he did a damn fine job. I thought he showed a better instincts, ran better between the tackles and was more decisive.

over the mountain · 11-01-2016, 10:42 AM

Cooley said that the NFL did not have all the review cameras for the London game that they do for regular games in the States. He also said they didnt have a camera angle to review if Jordan Reed got a 1st down with 29 seconds left in the first half. The Refs ruled Reed down at the Cincy 38 yard line, 1 yard short of the 1st down. They then called for a booth review with 13 seconds left. I assume at this point they looked and couldnt find a camera angle so the call stood.

If they did have all the cameras, they would have had a camera angle to review and we would have had 1st down with 13 seconds to go at the Cincy 37 yard line with 2 timeouts left. Enough time to pick up 5 yards and make the FG attempt a 50 yarder vs a 55 yarder. (Assuming Reed did get the 1st down after review, idk).

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Also, re time outs. I am a firm believer that in the 2nd half you save those as best as possible for a potential last min drive to tie or win. But in the first half, why isnt Gruden calling them to save us from a delay of game? I know we had at least 1 delay of game called in the 1st half and we went into the locker room at half time with 2 unused time outs.

Redskins vs. Bengals - Play-By-Play - October 30, 2016 - ESPN

over the mountain · 11-01-2016, 10:45 AM

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Certainly some. Fat Rob left some yards on the field, but that's his first NFL start and he is a rookie. I thought for both instances, he did a damn fine job. I thought he showed a better instincts, ran better between the tackles and was more decisive.

That slip on 4th and 1 was killer though ... I wish we had AlfMo for that kinda of play alone. I dont trust Jones or Fat Rob to take contact and fall forward 2 yards for the 1st.

Chico23231 · 11-01-2016, 11:15 AM

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That slip on 4th and 1 was killer though ... I wish we had AlfMo for that kinda of play alone. I dont trust Jones or Fat Rob to take contact and fall forward 2 yards for the 1st.

ha..dude saw the crease, got so excited and forgot to put his foot down. It hurt, but its experience. I applaud the call the go for it and the playcall itself...got execute it.

Chico23231 · 11-01-2016, 12:24 PM

Rob Kelley's starting debut could lead to RB shift for Redskins - Washington Redskins Blog- ESPN

boom

Meanwhile, Kelley’s first start resulted in a 21-carry, 87-yard game in the 27-27 tie. He wasn’t perfect, but he consistently ran tough. On some carries, he bounced off defenders leaving his teammates on the sidelines shouting and punching air. Those on the field appreciated it as well.

Physical

He wasn’t flashy – his longest carry was 16 yards, but 12 runs resulted in gains of at least four yards. Kelley had no negative carries.

cant dance when you Fat Rob.

He kept running forward,” Redskins tackle Trent Williams said. “He’ll give you second, third, fourth, fifth efforts. He keeps the pile moving. I’m certainly impressed by that. As a lineman, as soon as I feel the pile, I let my guy go and help clear it off, and you’d notice he’s still going. That shows a lot of toughness out of him, that he continues to pound the rock like that.”

Chalk up Silverblunt as a fan.

Id say keep with Kelly, see if you can light that fire under Jones.

TheMalcolmConnection · 11-01-2016, 01:20 PM

Reminded me a LOT of Morris. Even when nothing was there, he still got 1-2 yards just by falling forward.

Chico23231 · 11-01-2016, 01:24 PM

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Reminded me a LOT of Morris. Even when nothing was there, he still got 1-2 yards just by falling forward.

He just looks more the part in a McC-style offense.

Jones dancing too much and not being physical. Trying to juke when he isn't that dude.

I think Joe said something like he runs more violent...which I rather have in the backfield. And I think McC rather have (Gore, Beastmode) that style too.

MTK · 11-01-2016, 01:26 PM

It felt like Kelly was going to eventually pop one for a big gain, he didn't but I liked his 3 yards and a cloud of dust style.

Jones has got to stop dancing and run more decisively. He's too soft at times.

Chico23231 · 11-01-2016, 01:53 PM

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It felt like Kelly was going to eventually pop one for a big gain, he didn't but I liked his 3 yards and a cloud of dust style.

Jones has got to stop dancing and run more decisively. He's too soft at times.

Agree, but also he needs to hold on to the ball more than anything.

REDSKINS4ever · 11-01-2016, 06:15 PM

I watched the Redskins/Bengals game again last night. Our team was competitive. That's all we can really ask is that they are trying to win. This coaching staff is clueless....but the players came to play..... I'm not at all mad at Dustin Hopkins for missing the late FG attempt.

punch it in · 11-01-2016, 08:59 PM

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The only thing I would of changed. Is after the timeout by Marvin Lewis. I would of put my offense back out there like I was going to run a play now and try to lure defense offsides. Worse thing that happens is you call a timeout and put Hopkins back out there just to break the ice.

Chances are you wont draw them off, and than you are in essence icing the kicker yourself. I dont think it breaks the ice i think it thickens it. Just a longer time to think about it.
But hey in retrospect anything different seems good. Lol. Ill never get that kick out of my head. I know it was not the super bowl but it was London. Different type of football sunday - up early. Only game on. It was right before the bye so you get two weeks of victory celebration. Damn.

11-01-2016, 06:10 AM	#151
FrenchSkin Playmaker Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Yokohama, Japan Posts: 4,525	Re: The after London semi-meltdown thread. Watching the game again, I think we didn't emphasize how good the O-line played! Pass protection was really great, although Cincy was blitzing a lot. Good job on the running game, 3.2 yards/attempt with only 31 attempts isn't bad, is it? __________________ Derz Ambassaderz in the Land of the Rising Sun. Oui Monsieur.

11-01-2016, 10:18 AM	#153
JoeRedskin Contains football related knowledge Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Second Star On The Right Age: 62 Posts: 10,401	Re: The after London semi-meltdown thread. More stats (and evidence of our RZ issues): We have the second highest yards gained on offense. We have the 15th most average points scored per game. Atlanta is first in both categories. __________________ Strap it up, hold onto the ball, and let’s go.

11-01-2016, 10:42 AM	#156
over the mountain Playmaker Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: close to the edge Posts: 4,926	Re: The after London semi-meltdown thread. Cooley said that the NFL did not have all the review cameras for the London game that they do for regular games in the States. He also said they didnt have a camera angle to review if Jordan Reed got a 1st down with 29 seconds left in the first half. The Refs ruled Reed down at the Cincy 38 yard line, 1 yard short of the 1st down. They then called for a booth review with 13 seconds left. I assume at this point they looked and couldnt find a camera angle so the call stood. If they did have all the cameras, they would have had a camera angle to review and we would have had 1st down with 13 seconds to go at the Cincy 37 yard line with 2 timeouts left. Enough time to pick up 5 yards and make the FG attempt a 50 yarder vs a 55 yarder. (Assuming Reed did get the 1st down after review, idk). -------------- Also, re time outs. I am a firm believer that in the 2nd half you save those as best as possible for a potential last min drive to tie or win. But in the first half, why isnt Gruden calling them to save us from a delay of game? I know we had at least 1 delay of game called in the 1st half and we went into the locker room at half time with 2 unused time outs. Redskins vs. Bengals - Play-By-Play - October 30, 2016 - ESPN __________________ Life is brutal, but beautiful

11-01-2016, 12:24 PM	#159
Chico23231 Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 35,022	Re: The after London semi-meltdown thread. Rob Kelley's starting debut could lead to RB shift for Redskins - Washington Redskins Blog- ESPN boom Meanwhile, Kelley’s first start resulted in a 21-carry, 87-yard game in the 27-27 tie. He wasn’t perfect, but he consistently ran tough. On some carries, he bounced off defenders leaving his teammates on the sidelines shouting and punching air. Those on the field appreciated it as well. Physical He wasn’t flashy – his longest carry was 16 yards, but 12 runs resulted in gains of at least four yards. Kelley had no negative carries. cant dance when you Fat Rob. He kept running forward,” Redskins tackle Trent Williams said. “He’ll give you second, third, fourth, fifth efforts. He keeps the pile moving. I’m certainly impressed by that. As a lineman, as soon as I feel the pile, I let my guy go and help clear it off, and you’d notice he’s still going. That shows a lot of toughness out of him, that he continues to pound the rock like that.” Chalk up Silverblunt as a fan. Id say keep with Kelly, see if you can light that fire under Jones. __________________ My pronouns: King/Your ruler He Gets Us

11-01-2016, 01:20 PM	#160
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,264	Re: The after London semi-meltdown thread. Reminded me a LOT of Morris. Even when nothing was there, he still got 1-2 yards just by falling forward. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

11-01-2016, 01:26 PM	#162
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 52 Posts: 99,832	The after London semi-meltdown thread. It felt like Kelly was going to eventually pop one for a big gain, he didn't but I liked his 3 yards and a cloud of dust style. Jones has got to stop dancing and run more decisively. He's too soft at times. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

11-01-2016, 06:15 PM	#164
REDSKINS4ever Playmaker Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Washington, D.C. Posts: 4,114	Re: The after London semi-meltdown thread. I watched the Redskins/Bengals game again last night. Our team was competitive. That's all we can really ask is that they are trying to win. This coaching staff is clueless....but the players came to play..... I'm not at all mad at Dustin Hopkins for missing the late FG attempt. __________________ *Touchdown Washington Redskins!!!*

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