Where are the apologies?

[illdefined]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I'm not gonna name names, but trust me, there were a few people immediately after the game that went right to the yeah we won but what about the first 56 minutes of the game.

the bastards.

[skinsguy]

Actually I was wrong! However you were wrong as well. We started 2-0, then lost to the Giants, beat the Patriots, then it pretty much went down hill from there.

[illdefined]

this has always been about winning.

who doesn't agree that if we keep playing EXACTLY like we did on monday night ("improved" Brunell with miracle 4th quarter passes and all) against other teams, the chances of winning are real LOW?

[Luxorreb]

Sometimes the first 56 mins of a game don't matter.
Thankfully we were on the 4 min side this time.
Winning is what matters.
Improving is necessary and there is much too learn from our inept 56 mins. But bottom line is the Win column. Luck doesn't hurt either. Somehow there was no luck involved in the 2 bombs. Just guys doing their respective jobs. And gosh darn they did em on those 2 bombs plus the qb improv scrable.

[Redskins8588]

The only thing that Brunell did that I am not sure if Ramsey could have was his "touch" passes that he had. The one to convert the 4th and 2, the one on the sidelines to Moss, and a couple other ones.


I am not going to claim what Ramsey would have or could have done, but like I told my wife, I dont care who the QB is as long as he is "effective"...

[illdefined]

monday night should've united us because it really hit on points from both camps and we still got a mammoth win with genuine hope for the future.

it's threads asking for apologies and dismissing plainly valid and relevant opinions that drove the wedge.

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by illdefined

.....it's threads asking for apologies and dismissing plainly valid and relevant opinions that drove the wedge.

The wedge was driven in place WAY before this thread. I think your statement is the pot calling the kettle black.
For me the wedge was driven in when Ramsey fans would bad mouth any other QB but Ramsey. Then in the same breath talk about Ramsey in the same regard as some of the top NFL QB's....future probowl player...the next Brett Farve...etc. etc.
Ramsey played himself out of a job and that was hard to take for Ramsey fans.
So they blamed Gibbs and Brunell instead of Ramsey.

The Skins are 2-0 and some Redksins fans are not happy.
Amazing!

[PSUSkinsFan21]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

For me the wedge was driven in when Ramsey fans would bad mouth any other QB but Ramsey. Then in the same breath talk about Ramsey in the same regard as some of the top NFL QB's....future probowl player...the next Brett Farve...etc. etc.

Please show me where anyone did this...

[railcon56]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

Ramsey played himself out of a job and that was hard to take for Ramsey fans.
So they blamed Gibbs and Brunell instead of Ramsey.

The Skins are 2-0 and some Redksins fans are not happy.
Amazing!

I don't see that. He was looking very crisp against the bears and even at the end of last season... Some players are better game players than practice players... he had 1 half not enough for a starter ..brunell had how many games last year and he stunk up the joint... I am glad the skins won and I'm glad he made those 2 great passes ..but he stunk up the joint before that. Be fair.... i k

[illdefined]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

The wedge was driven in place WAY before this thread. I think your statement is the pot calling the kettle black.
For me the wedge was driven in when Ramsey fans would bad mouth any other QB but Ramsey. Then in the same breath talk about Ramsey in the same regard as some of the top NFL QB's....future probowl player...the next Brett Farve...etc. etc.

find me ONE quote that mentioned Ramsey, ProBowl or Favre before this one. really now.

if there was a wedge, the storybook win monday night should have pulled it out, but no, now we have fans who are validly concerned for their favorite team *defending* unrelenting attacks from fans who are more concerned about being 'right' than our still obvious problems on offense.

we bad mouthed a QB who played *worse* than Ramsey in every category last year and don't think limited appearances in practice and 2nd half pre-season games are a good indicator of vast improvement. i know 4 miraculous minutes out of 96 is enough to erase Brunell's entire performance of 2004 for many of you, but tell me right now which is more unreasonable?

[PSUSkinsFan21]

Originally Posted by illdefined

find me ONE quote that mentioned Ramsey, ProBowl or Favre before this one. really now.

if there was a wedge, the storybook win monday night should have pulled it out, but no, now we have fans who are validly concerned for their favorite team *defending* unrelenting attacks from fans who are more concerned about being 'right' than our still obvious problems on offense.

we bad mouthed a QB who played *worse* than Ramsey in every category last year and don't think limited appearances in practice and 2nd half pre-season games are a good indicator of vast improvement. i know 4 miraculous minutes out of 96 is enough to erase Brunell's entire performance of 2004 for many of you, but tell me right now which is more unreasonable?

Excellent post.

[MTK]

This thread continues to go nowhere and I see no reason to continue it.