Schefter: "There's no way" the Rams won't pick Sam Bradford at No. 1

Lotus · 03-01-2010, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

It's not just that. From a talent perspective he's easily worth the #1 pick. However aside from the shoulder injury that size makes people wonder how well he would take a beating at this level. Getting up to 236 makes him a tank by QB standards. In fact I think he put on a little more then the 14 pounds thats getting reported, given that he was listed as 214 during the season. Thats 22 pounds he's gained since the season most of it being muscle.

Basically Bradford took a concern and effectively neutralized it. Once they see him throw on his pro day then it will be very difficult for the Rams to pass on him.

Pssst...Sam Bradford is a practicing cannibal...tell the Rams this!

We need some terrible rumor to scare the Rams off.

CultBrennan59 · 03-01-2010, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

It's not just that. From a talent perspective he's easily worth the #1 pick. However aside from the shoulder injury that size makes people wonder how well he would take a beating at this level. Getting up to 236 makes him a tank by QB standards. In fact I think he put on a little more then the 14 pounds thats getting reported, given that he was listed as 214 during the season. Thats 22 pounds he's gained since the season most of it being muscle.

Basically Bradford took a concern and effectively neutralized it. Once they see him throw on his pro day then it will be very difficult for the Rams to pass on him.

No but I mean all up to the combine, its been a 'lock' for Suh to go to the Rams, and now its like people are re-realizing that Bradfords good after he gains 13 lbs. They should have already known that he's good just by all the tape they've had of him and time they've had to watch it.

SirClintonPortis · 03-01-2010, 10:50 PM

Schefter reporting his personal conclusions based supposed inside info(he does have a good track record though) has no bearing on what they could measure of Bradford at the combine since Schefter reported his stuff before the combine started. His good track record is what leads people to believe him.
Schefter's basically saying "Based on so-and-so evidence, I believe the Rams will pick Sam Bradford at number 1".
What everyone's saying after Bradford's weight increase is that "he's not a twig that's going to be broken in half after all".

PHazard · 03-01-2010, 10:51 PM

i was going accordin to risk. I FULLY agree OLine is our #1 Priority. But if Okung is off the board, the next in line would be Anthony Davis (moral/work ethic issues) and Buluga (thyroid/injury history) i just think #4 is too high of a pick to draft a question mark. Just sayin IMO Eric Berry would be the safer pick. And i think #4 is too high to grab Trent Williams and def too high for Bruce Campbell (looks amazing, plays like shit) id rather not reach in the 1st and get a Charles Brown, Vladimir Duccasse, or Jason Fox in the 2nd. you wanna reach just to say "we got a 1st round OT?" Okung deserves that spot. But others are questionable

Monkeydad · 03-03-2010, 11:39 AM

2. No Lion! Detroit wants to deal

The Lions, who pick second in the first round, have their fingers crossed that the Rams don’t pick a quarterback so they can trade down with either Cleveland or Buffalo, who apparently are in the quarterback market. The thought process is that new Browns czar Mike Holmgren won’t want to lose his favorite quarterback to Washington and new coach Mike Shanahan. The Redskins are perched at No. 4, three spots ahead of the Browns. The Lions really don’t want to spend $33 million in bonus money on a defensive tackle.

Source: Czar: Rumors heard 'round the NFL Combine - NFL News - FOX Sports on MSN

Pocket$ $traight · 03-03-2010, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Buster

2. No Lion! Detroit wants to deal

The Lions, who pick second in the first round, have their fingers crossed that the Rams don’t pick a quarterback so they can trade down with either Cleveland or Buffalo, who apparently are in the quarterback market. The thought process is that new Browns czar Mike Holmgren won’t want to lose his favorite quarterback to Washington and new coach Mike Shanahan. The Redskins are perched at No. 4, three spots ahead of the Browns. The Lions really don’t want to spend $33 million in bonus money on a defensive tackle.

Source: Czar: Rumors heard 'round the NFL Combine - NFL News - FOX Sports on MSN

How early can a team trade picks? Meaning, can it be done prior to the draft? Why wouldn't they trade the pick with us? I can't imagine that we wouldn't take additional picks and they would save some cash.

SirClintonPortis · 03-03-2010, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

How early can a team trade picks? Meaning, can it be done prior to the draft? Why wouldn't they trade the pick with us? I can't imagine that we wouldn't take additional picks and they would save some cash.

The Redskins traded their 12th and 24th picks to move up to 3rd in the 2000 draft. They did the trade in Feburary. I read some forum post in which he said other folks in the league said that the Redskins could've gotten a lot more if they waited until draft day.

Dirtbag59 · 03-03-2010, 02:03 PM

Double Coverage: Bradford to the Rams? - NFC West Blog - ESPN

Very interesting debate concerning weather the Rams should draft Bradford or Suh. The reasoning behind drafting Suh states that Spags had a great line in NY and the Rams will most likely be picking in the top 5 again next year in what is projected to be a "stronger" QB class.

Of course keep in mind things change. Last year at this time people were thinking that Bradford, McCoy, Snead, and Tebow could all be sure fire first rounders. If I remember right, it was possible that even Zac Robinson could become a first round pick. Now the only two guys that are going in the first are Bradford and Clausen.

Heck even Chris Simms and Andrew Walter were predicted to be high first round picks in their respective drafts. Ciron Black was suppose to be our first round pick this year according to Todd McShay.

Either way nice debate and reasoning for the Rams to take Suh which would give us a much better chance of getting Bradford :FIREdevil

Lotus · 03-03-2010, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

How early can a team trade picks? Meaning, can it be done prior to the draft? Why wouldn't they trade the pick with us? I can't imagine that we wouldn't take additional picks and they would save some cash.

We can trade picks starting Friday.

PHazard · 03-01-2010, 10:53 PM

Or i hope that someone who DOES want Eric Berry will trade up with us so we get a mid-1st round pick and maybe a 3rd so we can draft the next OT where he deserves to go and hopefully Hardesty in the 3rd :-)

53Fan · 03-01-2010, 11:01 PM

I honestly would have a terrible time picking between Suh and Berry. But just for the sake of discussion, here's an article talking about why safetys are becoming more valued.

Four good options in search for the next great safety

SmootSmack · 03-01-2010, 11:40 PM

LOL. Go back and read what I wrote. I didn't say the Chiefs were planning to trade up to take Okung. I said the Lions and Chiefs are rumored to be discussing a deal that would give the Lions Glen Dorsey (but not for the #2 overall pick) and free up the Lions to take Okung with the #2 pick.

The Chiefs would stay at #5 and possibly take Bulaga (maybe McLain)

Dirtbag59 · 03-01-2010, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

LOL. Go back and read what I wrote. I didn't say the Chiefs were planning to trade up to take Okung. I said the Lions and Chiefs are rumored to be discussing a deal that would give the Lions Glen Dorsey (but not for the #2 overall pick) and free up the Lions to take Okung with the #2 pick.

The Chiefs would stay at #5 and possibly take Bulaga (maybe McLain)

Crap thats even worse. Not only does Dorsey go to the NFC on a promising young team but Detroit gets our tackle. Oh well, I'll believe when I see it. Sure it's ignorant but I've already seen a Dorsey trade fall through with the Falcons last year. Though I do think the Falcons should have pulled the trigger considering that they just ended up drafting Jerry the DT from Ole Miss.

Crap now I'm starting to like Jevan Sneed.

Didn't realize that so much of that offense was getting the ball downfield instead of padding stats with dump offs.

SmootSmack · 03-01-2010, 11:49 PM

Fair points, I just don't know about how Landry and Berry together would work. Of the three options given I'd be fine with any of them

Incidentally, I think Nate Allen could be a solid 2nd-3rd round option at safety

PHazard · 03-01-2010, 11:55 PM

Well Laron Landry belongs near the line of scrimmage in he box, timing blitzes and supporting the run. Eric Berry is a poor man's ed reed. But has potential to be a rich mans ed reed as well. Eric Berry pointed out that he has been an impact player since he stepped on Tennessee's campus and the same cant be said about McCoy or Suh. I saw nate allen during senior bowl practices and liked what i saw. But i dont think we should take a safety anywhere in this draft unless its @ 4 n Berry is there. I think we have much bigger needs for 2, 4, 5, n 7th picks. Im just saying @ 4 with Okung off the board he's easily a consideration.

03-01-2010, 10:50 PM	#3
SirClintonPortis Pro Bowl Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 6,052	Re: Schefter: "There's no way" the Rams won't pick Sam Bradford at No. 1 Schefter reporting his personal conclusions based supposed inside info(he does have a good track record though) has no bearing on what they could measure of Bradford at the combine since Schefter reported his stuff before the combine started. His good track record is what leads people to believe him. Schefter's basically saying "Based on so-and-so evidence, I believe the Rams will pick Sam Bradford at number 1". What everyone's saying after Bradford's weight increase is that "he's not a twig that's going to be broken in half after all".

03-03-2010, 02:03 PM	#8
Dirtbag59 Naega jeil jal naga Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Atlanta, Georgia From: Silver Spring, Maryland Age: 40 Posts: 14,750	Re: Schefter: "There's no way" the Rams won't pick Sam Bradford at No. 1 Double Coverage: Bradford to the Rams? - NFC West Blog - ESPN Very interesting debate concerning weather the Rams should draft Bradford or Suh. The reasoning behind drafting Suh states that Spags had a great line in NY and the Rams will most likely be picking in the top 5 again next year in what is projected to be a "stronger" QB class. Of course keep in mind things change. Last year at this time people were thinking that Bradford, McCoy, Snead, and Tebow could all be sure fire first rounders. If I remember right, it was possible that even Zac Robinson could become a first round pick. Now the only two guys that are going in the first are Bradford and Clausen. Heck even Chris Simms and Andrew Walter were predicted to be high first round picks in their respective drafts. Ciron Black was suppose to be our first round pick this year according to Todd McShay. Either way nice debate and reasoning for the Rams to take Suh which would give us a much better chance of getting Bradford :FIREdevil __________________ "It's nice to be important, but its more important to be nice." - Scooter "I feel like Dirtbag has been slowly and methodically trolling the board for a month or so now." - FRPLG

03-01-2010, 10:53 PM	#10
PHazard Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Originally Portsmouth, VA but now Ocala, FL Posts: 207	Re: Schefter: "There's no way" the Rams won't pick Sam Bradford at No. 1 Or i hope that someone who DOES want Eric Berry will trade up with us so we get a mid-1st round pick and maybe a 3rd so we can draft the next OT where he deserves to go and hopefully Hardesty in the 3rd :-) __________________ If "The Future is Now" why would we use our #4 Pick on a QB who will spend the 1st year on the bench?

03-01-2010, 11:01 PM	#11
53Fan Franchise Player Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Kill Devil Hills, N.C. Posts: 7,570	Re: Schefter: "There's no way" the Rams won't pick Sam Bradford at No. 1 I honestly would have a terrible time picking between Suh and Berry. But just for the sake of discussion, here's an article talking about why safetys are becoming more valued. Four good options in search for the next great safety __________________ Defense wins championships. Bring it!

03-01-2010, 11:40 PM	#12
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: Schefter: "There's no way" the Rams won't pick Sam Bradford at No. 1 LOL. Go back and read what I wrote. I didn't say the Chiefs were planning to trade up to take Okung. I said the Lions and Chiefs are rumored to be discussing a deal that would give the Lions Glen Dorsey (but not for the #2 overall pick) and free up the Lions to take Okung with the #2 pick. The Chiefs would stay at #5 and possibly take Bulaga (maybe McLain) __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

03-01-2010, 10:51 PM	#4
PHazard Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Originally Portsmouth, VA but now Ocala, FL Posts: 207	Re: Schefter: "There's no way" the Rams won't pick Sam Bradford at No. 1 i was going accordin to risk. I FULLY agree OLine is our #1 Priority. But if Okung is off the board, the next in line would be Anthony Davis (moral/work ethic issues) and Buluga (thyroid/injury history) i just think #4 is too high of a pick to draft a question mark. Just sayin IMO Eric Berry would be the safer pick. And i think #4 is too high to grab Trent Williams and def too high for Bruce Campbell (looks amazing, plays like shit) id rather not reach in the 1st and get a Charles Brown, Vladimir Duccasse, or Jason Fox in the 2nd. you wanna reach just to say "we got a 1st round OT?" Okung deserves that spot. But others are questionable __________________ If "The Future is Now" why would we use our #4 Pick on a QB who will spend the 1st year on the bench?

03-03-2010, 11:39 AM	#5
Monkeydad Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: PA Age: 46 Posts: 17,460	Re: Schefter: "There's no way" the Rams won't pick Sam Bradford at No. 1 2. No Lion! Detroit wants to deal The Lions, who pick second in the first round, have their fingers crossed that the Rams don’t pick a quarterback so they can trade down with either Cleveland or Buffalo, who apparently are in the quarterback market. The thought process is that new Browns czar Mike Holmgren won’t want to lose his favorite quarterback to Washington and new coach Mike Shanahan. The Redskins are perched at No. 4, three spots ahead of the Browns. The Lions really don’t want to spend $33 million in bonus money on a defensive tackle. Source: Czar: Rumors heard 'round the NFL Combine - NFL News - FOX Sports on MSN __________________ Not sent from a Droid, iPhone, Blackberry or toaster

03-01-2010, 11:49 PM	#14
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: Schefter: "There's no way" the Rams won't pick Sam Bradford at No. 1 Fair points, I just don't know about how Landry and Berry together would work. Of the three options given I'd be fine with any of them Incidentally, I think Nate Allen could be a solid 2nd-3rd round option at safety __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

03-01-2010, 11:55 PM	#15
PHazard Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Originally Portsmouth, VA but now Ocala, FL Posts: 207	Re: Schefter: "There's no way" the Rams won't pick Sam Bradford at No. 1 Well Laron Landry belongs near the line of scrimmage in he box, timing blitzes and supporting the run. Eric Berry is a poor man's ed reed. But has potential to be a rich mans ed reed as well. Eric Berry pointed out that he has been an impact player since he stepped on Tennessee's campus and the same cant be said about McCoy or Suh. I saw nate allen during senior bowl practices and liked what i saw. But i dont think we should take a safety anywhere in this draft unless its @ 4 n Berry is there. I think we have much bigger needs for 2, 4, 5, n 7th picks. Im just saying @ 4 with Okung off the board he's easily a consideration. __________________ If "The Future is Now" why would we use our #4 Pick on a QB who will spend the 1st year on the bench?

Schefter: "There's no way" the Rams won't pick Sam Bradford at No. 1

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