Lavar says he was misquoted - he wants to remain a redskin for his entire career

[skins052bgr8]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

You said it all. Us as fans are fans of the Redskins. But after a while we are fans of the uniforms not the players or personalities behind those uniforms. that is the sad part of the organization. People like Mitchell, Steven Davis, champ, smoot , and now LaVar are players we watched in college, watched get drafted by our team. I know you cant keep everyone around that you want, but when good organizations treat their players with dignity and respect alot of those players will stay regardless of the money. New England has players acception less cash to play for them, eagles too. These organizations dont alienate the players or the fans. This is the salary cap business you can love or hate. But when we get attached to certain players because the organization shoves down your throat year end and year out, then all of the sudden turn their backs on them it makes you wonder how important us fans and the city is. I love the Redskins and always will. It just pains me to see us year in and year out throw not only good players but fan favorites and good character guys off the field, out like a pile of garbage.

And those same teams have exceptions and issues where players leave on bad terms, Jerimiah Trotter furious because he wanted more money and the way they handled him before he came to the skins, the eagles players disagreeing with the way they handled TO so if you look at that can you really say what a player overheard in the locker room being a little to much on Lavar from Lindsey being bias, Lowyer Milloy for the patriots, Ty Law for the Patriots when it becomes more about the money and the individual teams and players part on bad terms it is not just the Redskins these are only two incidents, but Corey Simon with the Eagles. Players who were considered contributors and years of play with the respective teams gone because you have to manage as a team and not for individuals. Do you think Kearse was a fan favorite in Tennesee, damn those titans just letting big name players go, must be the management did not care about him and treated him wrong. Your heart is what you watch everyday and Lavar has been loved by fans for his play, but he needs to understand they don't operate around an individual, but it does go on all the time. I am sure when these players left these teams respective forums just erupted with pissed off fans. Some of his arguements are just pathetic some people around here are mad when they see all my Jersey's in the stand sounds like something Gibbs and staff would be pissed about.

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

6.5 million dollars, you make it sound like its a couple of dollars. You would n't be going nuts if someone left that out of your paycheck? I know its the agents fault for not reading it, but I think everyone here would be ticked off about that, if it was true and indeed was left out. None of us really know that either because I dont think anyone here actually saw the contract.

I wont quibble with the first part of statement but is it maybe possible that Lavar's snake agent lied to him? Maybe they discussed an extra bonus and the agent forgot to or coudln't get it included. You seem to accept the fact the the Skins made the mistake of leaving it out either intetionally or unintentionally and I would submit that I would trust an entire NFL organization about 100 times more than a snake oil agent. My biggest problme is that since it is impossible for Lavar to know who made the mistake he needs to treat both parties about equally. Don't stand by your agent when it is as likely he made the ultimate mistake. That's not layalty to your organization or your so called friend Dan Snyder. That is being greedy. I know 6.5 Mil is srious cash to you and me but the Lavar it means a whole hell of a lot less. Still a butt load of money but I think on principle he should have buttoned up on and worked with the FO to come up with a solution that was ameanable to everyone. First thing on that solution would be to fire and sue the agent for breach of contract for not doing his job and costing you 6.5 millions dollars. The buck stops at the guy who said "sign the deal".

[#56fanatic]

Originally Posted by skins052bgr8

And those same teams have exceptions and issues where players leave on bad terms, Jerimiah Trotter furious because he wanted more money and the way they handled him before he came to the skins, the eagles players disagreeing with the way they handled TO so if you look at that can you really say what a player overheard in the locker room being a little to much on Lavar from Lindsey being bias, Lowyer Milloy for the patriots, Ty Law for the Patriots when it becomes more about the money and the individual teams and players part on bad terms it is not just the Redskins these are only two incidents, but Corey Simon with the Eagles. Players who were considered contributors and years of play with the respective teams gone because you have to manage as a team and not for individuals. Do you think Kearse was a fan favorite in Tennesee, damn those titans just letting big name players go, must be the management did not care about him and treated him wrong. Your heart is what you watch everyday and Lavar has been loved by fans for his play, but he needs to understand they don't operate around an individual, but it does go on all the time. I am sure when these players left these teams respective forums just erupted with pissed off fans. Some of his arguements are just pathetic some people around here are mad when they see all my Jersey's in the stand sounds like something Gibbs and staff would be pissed about.

Good Points, however Trotter begged to be back in philly. Law was not resigned because he was aging and wanted Champ Money a year or two into a long term deal, like the TO debacle. Kearse was a free agent and Titans didn't have a $1.50 to sign him. dont remember the Milloy thing, or Simon thing so cant speak on that.

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

Good Points, however Trotter begged to be back in philly. Law was not resigned because he was aging and wanted Champ Money a year or two into a long term deal, like the TO debacle. Kearse was a free agent and Titans didn't have a $1.50 to sign him. dont remember the Milloy thing, or Simon thing so cant speak on that.

So it's ok to dump some guys but not the ones you like? That's rationalization my friend. That is really what it sounds like.

[skins052bgr8]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

Good Points, however Trotter begged to be back in philly. Law was not resigned because he was aging and wanted Champ Money a year or two into a long term deal, like the TO debacle. Kearse was a free agent and Titans didn't have a $1.50 to sign him. dont remember the Milloy thing, or Simon thing so cant speak on that.

Good point with Trotter and maybe these players will realize that the grass may not be greener on the otherside. Heaven knows Smoot is caught up in a sex scandal and another season he will not go to the playoffs and a organization that for most of the year was in shambles was it worth the money, I don't know but he is dealing with some of the same issues not going to the playoffs turnover in management, possibly a head coach change this year. Pierce lucked out and has had a successful year he out of most I think should have been retained, but it was not because they wanted to seperate with him. Coles is getting what he deserves a horrible performing offense and horrible individual stats. I to get frustrated shit I have lost out on two Bailey jerseys just knew he was a Redskin for his career and now maybe Lavar. I have to come to terms nothing is stable in free agency and I will be going through probably several jersey in the next four or five years, do I think Smoot and Pierce would have been here and many of the others if we did not have a cap, you bet your ass, Gibbs and Snyder would have paid what it took to keep most if not all.

[#56fanatic]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

I wont quibble with the first part of statement but is it maybe possible that Lavar's snake agent lied to him? Maybe they discussed an extra bonus and the agent forgot to or coudln't get it included. You seem to accept the fact the the Skins made the mistake of leaving it out either intetionally or unintentionally and I would submit that I would trust an entire NFL organization about 100 times more than a snake oil agent. My biggest problme is that since it is impossible for Lavar to know who made the mistake he needs to treat both parties about equally. Don't stand by your agent when it is as likely he made the ultimate mistake. That's not layalty to your organization or your so called friend Dan Snyder. That is being greedy. I know 6.5 Mil is srious cash to you and me but the Lavar it means a whole hell of a lot less. Still a butt load of money but I think on principle he should have buttoned up on and worked with the FO to come up with a solution that was ameanable to everyone. First thing on that solution would be to fire and sue the agent for breach of contract for not doing his job and costing you 6.5 millions dollars. The buck stops at the guy who said "sign the deal".

I dont know who left the 6.5 mil, or lied about it. Fact was a grievence was filed and it pissed a lot of people off. LaVar tried to drop it but NFLPA wouldnt let him. It is just a mess on both sides that it has come down to this on the cusp of a really good season, possible great. I seriously doubt the players are focusing on it as much as we are. The other part of the that is the 6.5 bonus money is the only guaranteed part of the contract, other than any signing bonuses or workout bonuses that sort of thing. So when It comes down to these bonuses players and agents really fight for them. rightfully so. With the way its working out, he wont be here to get it anyway even if it was in the contract so I guess its not that important to bitch about is it?

[Sammy Baugh Fan]

My take is this stuff happens all the time.
LaVar lacked "Tact".
Tack is doing things that actually bring you the result you seek.

If he seeks to be with Gibbs and this Team than what he did was not even in his own best interest.

Lavar now is singing the country song...
"I know what I was feeling but... WHAT WAS I THINKING?"

[#56fanatic]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

So it's ok to dump some guys but not the ones you like? That's rationalization my friend. That is really what it sounds like.

I dont know what you are talking about. Trotter tried to get more money, got it in washington, got cut, then realized what he had in Philly and begged to go back, took alot less money, two years in a row in fact. I didn't say its ok to drop players I dont like, I just stated the facts regarding a few you mentioned. Tell me this, If Springs came to you and said (at age 31 mind you) 2 years into his deal that paid him 10 mil up front, I want a new deal or I am holding out and wanted 15 to 20 mil up front. what would you do? Pay an aging player that much money or cut your ties? Same w/ Milloy, not really sure how old he is but not a spring chicken. Kearse was a free agent and the Titans didn't have the money Philly had to offer him. So , I dont get your point about dropping guys I dont like being ok. i didn't think letting Cory Simon go by Philly was a good move, look what the guy has done in Indy, made the run D pretty damn good.

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

I dont know what you are talking about. Trotter tried to get more money, got it in washington, got cut, then realized what he had in Philly and begged to go back, took alot less money, two years in a row in fact. I didn't say its ok to drop players I dont like, I just stated the facts regarding a few you mentioned. Tell me this, If Springs came to you and said (at age 31 mind you) 2 years into his deal that paid him 10 mil up front, I want a new deal or I am holding out and wanted 15 to 20 mil up front. what would you do? Pay an aging player that much money or cut your ties? Same w/ Milloy, not really sure how old he is but not a spring chicken. Kearse was a free agent and the Titans didn't have the money Philly had to offer him. So , I dont get your point about dropping guys I dont like being ok. i didn't think letting Cory Simon go by Philly was a good move, look what the guy has done in Indy, made the run D pretty damn good.

Just seemed like you were saying it was ok for the team to let those guys go elsewhere or cut them but not in this case. If that's not what you meant then I retract. But based on your post above it does seem like what you're saying.

[#56fanatic]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

Just seemed like you were saying it was ok for the team to let those guys go elsewhere or cut them but not in this case. If that's not what you meant then I retract. But based on your post above it does seem like what you're saying.

OK

[giacomo2]

arrington can kiss my assssssss....he's a little bitch!!!! seeeeeeeeeeee....now i was misquoted lol

[JManorGC94]

Im a huge Lavar fan but this whole thing doesn't sit well with us as fans. We all love watching him play and couldn't wait to see what he could do in this system. Lavar made a statement regarding fan support like Ray Lewis. Ray is a free-lancer but he rairly misses tackles and plays hard and helps coach his fellow teammates. This is something I never saw Lavar do while in Denver sitting under a coat just like in KC he sits and sulks. To me if I was Dan,Joe, or Greg I would be lighting a fire under his ass. Lavar is a very emotional player and I listen to him on the John Thompson show and he is a cronic listner to the critics. Lavar loves seeing his Jersey and the fans cheering for him then why did it take so long for you to release your rights as a member of the NFLPA. You should have loved your new contract because in there Dan Snyder saw your earning potential and through that in there. He make millions and so doe's his advisors so I ask them this READ ALL PRINTED DOCUMENTS AND SIGN HERE>__________

Just a thought and my first post.
With the Possible Cap room Reggie Wayne Next Year???

[Sammy Baugh Fan]

Good post JManorGC94 and welcome to the jungle.

Good folks around here with some sound thought at times. [note disclaimer]

peace
mike

EDIT/ added [s] to time making it times

[FRPLG]

That's another thing that his agent screwed up. His first contract didn't have the NFLPA stuff but in his first restructure his agent forgot to have them remove it (it is common language that all teams put in for ease. they don't care either way.) so he magically became a member because his agent is apparently a moron.

[davy]

The Drama Queen...

Every incident or opportunity, no matter how insignificant, is exploited, exaggerated and if necessary distorted to become an event of dramatic proportions. Everything is elevated to crisis proportions. Histrionics may be present where the person feels he is not the centre of attention but should be.