Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Dolphins)

[hooskins]

Still better than Beck, since he can move the ball. Rex will lose more games than win them, but Beck will lose all of them.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by hooskins

Still better than Beck, since he can move the ball. Rex will lose more games than win them, but Beck will lose all of them.

Wait.... were you a Beck fan prior to the switch? lol.

[hooskins]

Wrecks is like the guy that runs around in COD and ends up with a 15-25 k/d. Beck camps in the corner and ends up 1-5.

Pick your poison.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by hooskins

Wrecks is like the guy that runs around in COD and ends up with a 15-25 k/d. Beck camps in the corner and ends up 1-5.

Pick your poison.

lol pretty much

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by hooskins

Wrecks is like the guy that runs around in COD and ends up with a 15-25 k/d. Beck camps in the corner and ends up 1-5.

Pick your poison.

LOL nice analogy.... but it's supposed to be reversed..... Beck was supposed to be the more mobile QB. lol. but your 100% correct.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

This fire shanahan stuff is nonsense. Firing Shanahan would almost certainly involve Snyder bringing Cerrato back in some capacity. I think both Shanahans need to stay here atleast 3 years before firing is even in the discussion.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

This fire shanahan stuff is nonsense. Firing Shanahan would almost certainly involve Snyder bringing Cerrato back in some capacity. I think both Shanahans need to stay here atleast 3 years before firing is even in the discussion.

Why would firing the gruesome twosome Mike and Kyle = return of the cokehead? Allen doesn't have any particular connection to Mike so there's no reason for him to get the boot or resign.

[Beemnseven]

The larger point is that any quarterback would have struggled with this supporting cast.

And I don't know that Mike Shanahan's status as a quarterback guru was necessarily a given. Like everybody else in this league, he was right on some guys, wrong on others. I'd say Cutler has turned out to be as good as advertised. He created the environment for Elway to get over the hump, and perhaps made him a more complete QB.

With Beck, I just think you had to see what he could do. We saw it. He won't cut it. Does that mean Mike Shanahan has lost it? I don't think so. Maybe he knows that it's early in the rebuild process and for the first year or so he wanted to try some things out knowing that if they don't work, it won't matter much because this team was being dismantled from the top-down anyway.

[MTK]

Before all these injuries I'd argue this offense had some potential, and with a competent QB we could have been more competitive. Right now given all the injuries we'd probably be in a somewhat similar situation, but when I see Grossman throwing dumb pick after dumb pick or Beck dumping it off every play or getting sacked, I can't help but wonder.

In the end Shanahan is 0-3 on his QB choices here. Not good any way you look at it.

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Before all these injuries I'd argue this offense had some potential, and with a competent QB we could have been more competitive. Right now given all the injuries we'd probably be in a somewhat similar situation, but when I see Grossman throwing dumb pick after dumb pick or Beck dumping it off every play or getting sacked, I can't help but wonder.

In the end Shanahan is 0-3 on his QB choices here. Not good any way you look at it.

Yes, with a more competent QB, the offense would have better.

But I think it's quite clear that their pickings were slim and would have been pretty big gambles in their own right, i.e AJ Feeley, Bulger, Leinart, TJax, Troy Smith. More likely than not, we'd be killing Shanahan if one of those guys were starting instead of Brecks.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

Yes, with a more competent QB, the offense would have better.

But I think it's quite clear that their pickings were slim and would have been pretty big gambles in their own right, i.e AJ Feeley, Bulger, Leinart, TJax, Troy Smith. More likely than not, we'd be killing Shanahan if one of those guys were starting instead of Brecks.

Exactly right. It's not like there was a Pro Bowl quarterback sitting out there on the free agent scrapheap and Shanny wasn't able to spot him.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Exactly right. It's not like there was a Pro Bowl quarterback sitting out there on the free agent scrapheap and Shanny wasn't able to spot him.

Marc Bulger was a Pro Bowl quarterback .


Oh ohhhhhh you mean a recent Pro Bowl qb.

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by mooby

Marc Bulger was a Pro Bowl quarterback .


Oh ohhhhhh you mean a recent Pro Bowl qb.

I think Bulger would have this team 5-4 or 4-5 and having us smelling 8-8...if his last few years in St. Louis didn't give him happy feet and the like. But he had no upside. The best Bulger would give next year would either be the same or worse that he would have given this year.
I think Shanahan wanted to test out guys with some upside. He probably thought these guys had the best chance to turn into the second coming of Gannon...or at least something serviceable like Plummer. He probably deluded himself a bit, but I don't hold that too hard against him. It happens to everyone.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by mooby

Marc Bulger was a Pro Bowl quarterback .


Oh ohhhhhh you mean a recent Pro Bowl qb.

No, I meant a quarterback that would have been a Pro Bowler for us if Shanahan had only signed him.

Marc Bulger retired, so he wasn't even part of the discussion.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Before all these injuries I'd argue this offense had some potential, and with a competent QB we could have been more competitive. Right now given all the injuries we'd probably be in a somewhat similar situation, but when I see Grossman throwing dumb pick after dumb pick or Beck dumping it off every play or getting sacked, I can't help but wonder.

In the end Shanahan is 0-3 on his QB choices here. Not good any way you look at it.

TH was on pace for a VERY good season.. Injuries happen it seems like other teams always bounce back and we always have that same excuse... Look at dallas Murray comes in and rolls over Felix..