Chiefs vs. Skins Post-Game

[skinsfan69]

If RG3 was playing good football then he'd finish out the season. This is part performance based and part sticking it to Snyder. Not sure if Cousins is going to do any better w/ roller skates playing right tackle.

[Fiversons]

Originally Posted by punch it in

And Mikes been a terrible coach for his last 15 years of coaching, is about to get fired for the second time in six years, and has drafted mostly shit since he has been here so whats your point?

My point is that he is doing this hoping Snyder fires him so he can collect his money next year. It's a big Fuck You from Mike to Snyder... And that Mike is not the only one to blame... Where is you anger for Snyder and RGIII? Where is the outrage at a young QB that needs to shut his mouth, take responsiblity for his crappy year and not throw other teammates under the bus or at an owner that continues to have "personal realtionships" with star players that ruins morale? Express your outrage for those things, then I will join you in slamming Shanny...

[mooby]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Well two things are true.
1) it cannot get worse than this
2) it can only get better than this

Matt Millen/Vinny/0-14 Buccaneers/0-16 Lions says you are wrong.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Enjoy this trainwreck guys. The press conference in case you missed it.

I'm embarrassed to be a skins fan yet again

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Fiversons

My point is that he is doing this hoping Snyder fires him so he can collect his money next year. It's a big Fuck You from Mike to Snyder... And that Mike is not the only one to blame... Where is you anger for Snyder and RGIII? Where is the outrage at a young QB that needs to shut his mouth, take responsiblity for his crappy year and not throw other teammates under the bus or at an owner that continues to have "personal realtionships" with star players that ruins morale? Express your outrage for those things, then I will join you in slamming Shanny...

I have extreme outrage for Dan Snyder, unfortunately he isnt going anywhere so I learned a long time ago to leave that anger alone. On top of that, Snyder has been invisible for four years until MS found himself on the hotseat and all of the sudden there is this crap ass soap opera bullshit about him and RG-3 being in bed together and undermining Mike? Bullshit. Mike lost the ship because he is a poor coach/draft guy and now is grasping for straws. Griff is a 24 year old kid getting his ass handed to him on a weekly basis because of the pourous oline Mike built in front of him. Even if they are all to blame I expect more couth from my headcoach than i do from a 24 year old kid or from an owner. Fuck Mike and the horse he rode in on.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by mooby

Matt Millen/Vinny/0-14 Buccaneers/0-16 Lions says you are wrong.

0-16 sounds better to me than 3-13 coupled with this circus sideshow to tell you the truth. Those teams fought and tried to win. They did not quit. They were not embarrassed by their headcoach.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by punch it in

0-16 sounds better to me than 3-13 coupled with this circus sideshow to tell you the truth. Those teams fought and tried to win. They did not quit. They were not embarrassed by their headcoach.

Yeah, I don't think anything is worst than being 0-16.

Actually there is, being 0-16 in a big market like Washington or New York.

Things are very bad for our team, but let's not be over dramatic here.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Yeah, I don't think anything is worst than being 0-16.

Actually there is, being 0-16 in a big market like Washington or New York.

Things are very bad for our team, but let's not be over dramatic here.

I was responding sarcastically to Moobys post, but honestly are three meaningless wins better than this drama going on in DC? My point was that if we were 0-16 and playing with a purpose atleast - not throwing each other under the bus, etc, I would feel better than I do about this team rite now.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by punch it in

I was responding sarcastically to Moobys post, but honestly are three meaningless wins better than this drama going on in DC? My point was that if we were 0-16 and playing with a purpose atleast - not throwing each other under the bus, etc, I would feel better than I do about this team rite now.

I see what you are saying, but all everyone remembers from that Lions' season is that they went 0-16.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I see what you are saying, but all everyone remembers from that Lions' season is that they went 0-16.

Fair enough. I dont want to be 0-16 just because i am a fan. I will take 1-15 minus the bologna in a heartbeat though.

[Fiversons]

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Originally Posted by punch it in

I have extreme outrage for Dan Snyder, unfortunately he isnt going anywhere so I learned a long time ago to leave that anger alone. On top of that, Snyder has been invisible for four years until MS found himself on the hotseat and all of the sudden there is this crap ass soap opera bullshit about him and RG-3 being in bed together and undermining Mike? Bullshit. Mike lost the ship because he is a poor coach/draft guy and now is grasping for straws. Griff is a 24 year old kid getting his ass handed to him on a weekly basis because of the pourous oline Mike built in front of him. Even if they are all to blame I expect more couth from my headcoach than i do from a 24 year old kid or from an owner. Fuck Mike and the horse he rode in on.

I agree... Mike deserves to fired twice over... The whole thing stinks, and I blame all of them... And to think this last year was an aberration... It just sucks to be in the same boat what seems like a 4 to 5 year cycle of suckiness, then we get hot and make a good run, really feel positive about moving forward just for the same thing to happen...

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Fiversons

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I agree... Mike deserves to fired twice over... The whole thing stinks, and I blame all of them... And to think this last year was an aberration... It just sucks to be in the same boat what seems like a 4 to 5 year cycle of suckiness, then we get hot and make a good run, really feel positive about moving forward just for the same thing to happen...

Yup. Its brutal. I really thought we had turned a corner. We were getting Rak, and Carriker, and BW back. Another year in the 3-4 under our belts. Consistency in the coaching staff. Griff was gonna b healthy and even if he wasnt ready for week one I liked what I saw out of Cousins and felt confident he would do until Griff was ready. We had addressed the secondary through the draft. Seemed like a 10-6 team that was trouncing Seattle until Griffs injury was going to only get better. I mean we didnt lose anyone. Than - Bam - week one we got our asses handed to us and never recovered. By far the most dissapointing season Ive witnessed imo.

[HailGreen28]

Originally Posted by punch it in

0-16 sounds better to me than 3-13 coupled with this circus sideshow to tell you the truth. Those teams fought and tried to win. They did not quit. They were not embarrassed by their headcoach.

Didn't teams that went 0-14 and 0-16 have the same controversy over the team quitting? Coaches job security? Fans taking out billboards to beg a coach or owner be replaced? Seems to me you don't get a worse record than us without the team quitting or everybody being embarrassed.

This is still disgraceful, it just hurts more because it's happening to us, and we shouldn't tolerate it.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by HailGreen28

Didn't teams that went 0-14 and 0-16 have the same controversy over the team quitting? Coaches job security? Fans taking out billboards to beg a coach or owner be replaced? Seems to me you don't get a worse record than us without the team quitting or everybody being embarrassed.

This is still disgraceful, it just hurts more because it's happening to us, and we shouldn't tolerate it.

Im not saying those teams were good. Those teams however were not coming off of 10-6, division winning seasons, in situations where things seemed to be on the upswing. Ofcourse coaches lose their jobs when they have seasons like that, but there aint circus music playing in the background. I dont really remember that Bucs team, but I bet they fought tooth and nail for a W up till the end. I do not remember the Lions quitting either. They just sucked. This is different. If anything I compare us more to the current Texans, Falcons teams in terms of dissapointment. But even there it is not a God damn media circus like it is here.

[HailGreen28]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Im not saying those teams were good. Those teams however were not coming off of 10-6, division winning seasons, in situations where things seemed to be on the upswing. Ofcourse coaches lose their jobs when they have seasons like that, but there aint circus music playing in the background. I dont really remember that Bucs team, but I bet they fought tooth and nail for a W up till the end. I do not remember the Lions quitting either. They just sucked. This is different. If anything I compare us more to the current Texans, Falcons teams in terms of dissapointment. But even there it is not a God damn media circus like it is here.

Yeah, like Mike said in his presser, Atlanta's got the same record with a bigger let down than we have.

I blame the same thing for the circus now, as the circuses in years past. It starts with our owner, and ends with the media and fans. That's been the case before Shanahan, and probably afterwards. LOL at the same media fanning the flames of our situation asking Shanny and others "Gee, why is there so much talk in the media about this controversy?"

To be fair, I haven't heard Snyder say anything bad about this situation, just media rumors. We'll see what happens.