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Old 04-26-2018, 04:58 PM   #1
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Re: With the 13th Pick the Washington Redskins select...

With all the RB’s the skins need to face twice a year, Elliot, Ajay/Blount and now Barkley, Vea should be the pick.
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Old 04-26-2018, 02:33 PM   #2
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Just when I think you couldn't get any dumber, you go and do something like this...

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Old 04-26-2018, 03:09 PM   #3
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Just when I think you couldn't get any dumber, you go and do something like this...





Oh for crying out loud Schneed let your sense of humor come out to play. His response was funny as hell.
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Remember, Vea is not the only run stopper available.

If you want to fill the NT position with a bona fide run stopper, and you acknowledge that you're going to use Allen and Ioannidis in the nickel pass rush (why wouldn't you, they were very effective last year), then you should think about these guys in the middle rounds:

Derrick Nnadi - Florida State 6'1" 317
Nathan Shepherd - Fort Mays State (D2) 6'4" 315
BJ Hill - NC State 6'3" 311
Harrison Phillips - Stanford 6'3" 307
Tim Settle - VA Tech 6'3" 329

Run stoppers in the middle of the line are very important, but not as impactful to a team overall as a stud MLB with range like Edmunds or Smith, and not nearly as impactful as rangey safeties who can flex down to cover the slot (see: Collins, Landon).

We can help our run defense without Vita Vea. There are more rounds in this draft than the 1st.
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Plenty of options on the DL but watch people freak the F out if we don’t go that way tonight and declare the draft is already the worst ever
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Plenty of options on the DL but watch people freak the F out if we don’t go that way tonight and declare the draft is already the worst ever
I think we all have our hopes high for tonight/this weekend.

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Old 04-26-2018, 01:22 PM   #7
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Plenty of options on the DL but watch people freak the F out if we don’t go that way tonight and declare the draft is already the worst ever


I wont freak out as long as we dont go that way because Mikah or someone is there. That being said I just think that unless u have that BIG TIME presence in the middle (or heart of) your defense than nothing else will work to its full potential. Every year i watch this team get beat up in the trenches and every year i say next year we will address that shit. Without a beating heart the limbs are useless no matter how sculpted they are.
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Plenty of options on the DL but watch people freak the F out if we don’t go that way tonight and declare the draft is already the worst ever
The problem is every year there are plenty of options at DL, but this FO devalues the position likely because it's a 2 down player.
If we get a clear top 10 guy because 4-6 qb's go before us, then I will be happy.
If we trade down, pick up a 3rd and still get a clear upgrade at NT, I will be happy.
If we trade down and get a strong RB, Guard combo, and pick up Hankins after the draft, I likely will be happy,

But if we trade down, pick up squat for the middle of the DL and then sign more 2nd tier guys like last year, I will not be happy.
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The problem is every year there are plenty of options at DL, but this FO devalues the position likely because it's a 2 down player.
If we get a clear top 10 guy because 4-6 qb's go before us, then I will be happy.
If we trade down, pick up a 3rd and still get a clear upgrade at NT, I will be happy.
If we trade down and get a strong RB, Guard combo, and pick up Hankins after the draft, I likely will be happy,

But if we trade down, pick up squat for the middle of the DL and then sign more 2nd tier guys like last year, I will not be happy.
I fully agree with this position. I expect, nay I DEMAND, the Redskins come up with a solution to stopping the run before training camp starts. It absolutely does not have to be Vita Vea. But something must be done.

If Hankins goes someplace else for a song, and we don't come away with a promising rookie at this spot, I will be the first to march on Ashburn with a torch with Bruce's name on it.
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Old 04-26-2018, 01:17 PM   #10
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I’ll just say keep in mind Ioannidis was a 5th rounder
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Re: With the 13th Pick the Washington Redskins select...

I’d rather have Payne over Vea

Payne and Price is my 1-2 wishlist
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I’d rather have Payne over Vea

Payne and Price is my 1-2 wishlist


Payne has the better jersey name for sure.
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Re: With the 13th Pick the Washington Redskins select...

Vea Strengths:
Surprising athleticism
Explosive defender
Good instincts
Very disruptive
Physical force at the point of attack
Tough run defender who can hold his gap
Excellent run defender
Good burst off the snap
Has some pass-rushing skills
Collapses the pocket
Can destroys guards and centers with a bull rush
Flashes speed to run by them
Very strong
Very quick for his size
Closes well for a heavy tackle
Ability to shed blocks
Frees up edge rushers, linebackers
Can play with good leverage
Uses bull rush to push the pocket
Perfect fit as a 3-4 nose tackle
Good fit as a 4-3 tackle
Eats up double teams
Good motor
Gives a second effort
Awareness
Upside


Read more: WalterFootball.com: 2018 NFL Draft Scouting Report: Vita Vea
Read more at WalterFootball.com: 2018 NFL Draft Scouting Report: Vita Vea
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Old 04-26-2018, 07:44 PM   #14
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Vea Strengths:

Surprising athleticism

Explosive defender

Good instincts

Very disruptive

Physical force at the point of attack

Tough run defender who can hold his gap

Excellent run defender

Good burst off the snap

Has some pass-rushing skills

Collapses the pocket

Can destroys guards and centers with a bull rush

Flashes speed to run by them

Very strong

Very quick for his size

Closes well for a heavy tackle

Ability to shed blocks

Frees up edge rushers, linebackers

Can play with good leverage

Uses bull rush to push the pocket

Perfect fit as a 3-4 nose tackle

Good fit as a 4-3 tackle

Eats up double teams

Good motor

Gives a second effort

Awareness

Upside





Read more: WalterFootball.com: 2018 NFL Draft Scouting Report: Vita Vea

Read more at WalterFootball.com: 2018 NFL Draft Scouting Report: Vita Vea


Simply put. Game changer.
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Old 04-26-2018, 08:42 PM   #15
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Step Btothers is NOT better than Dumb & Dumber. Y'all must be thinking about Dumb & Dumberer.
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