Fassel meets with Redskins over coaching vacancies

[Cap'nChaos47]

What bothers me is the secret talk... the mixed messages in the media, etc... I know more about the 27 presidential candidates (esp. candidates 13-27) then I do those being seriously considered for the Redskins HC job. We love football, we love our team, we'll do anything for them including hours upon hours on sites such as this to get the latest..... but it's not the freaking Commander in Chief!!! Throw a dog a bone every now and then - let the fanbase get excited and supportive of the organization. Instead - we are held out, nothing is released, etc. and it leads to this type of thread exactly. Hearsay, Guesses, Opinions and much to do about nothing.

GW could be the guy, part of me really wants this. Part of me releates this to a "We Are Marshall" type event. GW knows what these young men went through and continue to go through. How could having him HC not help these guys and the organization in the healing process. However, part of me is scared of GW due to his 'my way or the highway' attitude to matters and his performance with the Bills. Second chances are good, hopefully that holds true if he is hired.

Fassell, Shotts, Norv.... all these guys are the same to me. They're not a 'face' of a team and I think here in D.C. we have had that 'Face' HC (two times) and are a little uneasy as to how to act with simply a puppet as a HC, which I believe Fassell would be. Dan and Vinny holding the strings.

Cowher - something to get excited about, I just don't see it happening. Too many things point in another direction.

I honestly think GW deserves this job - he deserves the chance to see if his ''we don't have starters..." ideaology works from a team aspect as opposed to a defense only aspect........ Four interviews and nothing for over a week scares me though. God, I can only imagine what he must be thinking all day, every day.

In the end - it will work out. We will ALL support whomever the HC is, like it or not. If he starts out hot next year we'll love him. If he struggles we'll come here and bash him and his performance. Either way we're fans - it's not our call and we simply move on when the call is made.

I love this team - I love this franchise and I LOVE SINGING THAT WONDERFUL SONG AFTER POINTS SCORED!!!!

HAIL!!!

[QBall]

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[MTK]

Originally Posted by QBall

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actually some sound points here by Wilbon:

But to the outside world it looks like Snyder, with all these meetings, is trying to find a reason to promote Williams . . . or a reason not to. And that's fine, because Snyder is the one who's going to be on the hook for, what, $12 million at the very least? He ought to make sure he's comfortable with the next coach.

What I really want to know is how this fancy new title changes Cerrato's life. If he's got the exact same duties and has input but no power to make football decisions, so what? If he's the Boss of All Things Football, a position I keep pushing Snyder to create, then this could be a significant step in the right direction. Cerrato has taken more criticism than anybody in the organization. But I know this much: His advice as to what to do was wiser in several instances than the course of action the Redskins took.

[QBall]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

actually some sound points here by Wilbon:

But to the outside world it looks like Snyder, with all these meetings, is trying to find a reason to promote Williams . . . or a reason not to. And that's fine, because Snyder is the one who's going to be on the hook for, what, $12 million at the very least? He ought to make sure he's comfortable with the next coach.

What I really want to know is how this fancy new title changes Cerrato's life. If he's got the exact same duties and has input but no power to make football decisions, so what? If he's the Boss of All Things Football, a position I keep pushing Snyder to create, then this could be a significant step in the right direction. Cerrato has taken more criticism than anybody in the organization. But I know this much: His advice as to what to do was wiser in several instances than the course of action the Redskins took.

Thanks for showing me how to post my link properly!

[halidouepics]

This is depressing me. I was mad about Fassell being interviewed back in 2004. Say it aint so!

[ArtMonkDrillz]

Maybe this should be in the Vinny thread, but I think it fits here too.
This is what really upsets me about the way this whole thing is being handled:

Other stuff: Two Redskins coaches have their contracts expiring, RB coach Earnest Byner and LB coach Kirk Olivadotti. League sources would not be surprised to see Byner end up back with the Ravens possibly in the same role ... The Redskins contingent in Mobile is up in arms. Players and coaches are distraught over the poorly worded press release regarding Cerrato's promotion and Jim Fassel's emergence as a candidate with multiple interviews. They are taking a lot of grief from other team''s people down there and, according to some league sources, the word "laughingstock" is being thrown around in regards to how the team is operating. The timing of the Cerrato release and the fact that it stated he would have "roster" control was a big issue down there; that's always the domain of the coach. The team later backtracked on that issue when I pushed it with them and said any new coach would pick the players, but the inclusion of that word, clumsily or not, read like a "shot across the bow," according to one GM. Of course the players and coaches have a vested stake in Williams getting the gig, too, as it would mean greater security for them and in many cases a contract extension or re-negotiation.

Redskins Insider (from JLC):

I know all the players and coaches are professionals, but why piss all of them off like this? Pros or not, they should have a big influence on the future of this team but it sounds like Danny and Vinny are just going to do their own thing no matter what.

[QBall]

Originally Posted by ArtMonkDrillz

Maybe this should be in the Vinny thread, but I think it fits here too.
This is what really upsets me about the way this whole thing is being handled:

Redskins Insider (from JLC):

I know all the players and coaches are professionals, but why piss all of them off like this? Pros or not, they should have a big influence on the future of this team but it sounds like Danny and Vinny are just going to do their own thing no matter what.

Wow this is getting alot worse quickly!

[redsk1]

Originally Posted by ArtMonkDrillz

Maybe this should be in the Vinny thread, but I think it fits here too.
This is what really upsets me about the way this whole thing is being handled:

Redskins Insider (from JLC):

I know all the players and coaches are professionals, but why piss all of them off like this? Pros or not, they should have a big influence on the future of this team but it sounds like Danny and Vinny are just going to do their own thing no matter what.

Yea, this keeps getting worse. This is why i stated last night imo, I don't trust our FO to handle this organization the right way. They seem to be able to p*** off our coaches and players like no other. For all of the bs "true redskin" talk and family talk they really could give a sh**. Maybe i'm overreacting a little but let's see what plays out.

Again, can't we do better than renting Jim Fassel for a couple of years?

[redwagonskins]

Originally Posted by ArtMonkDrillz

Maybe this should be in the Vinny thread, but I think it fits here too.
This is what really upsets me about the way this whole thing is being handled:

Redskins Insider (from JLC):

I know all the players and coaches are professionals, but why piss all of them off like this? Pros or not, they should have a big influence on the future of this team but it sounds like Danny and Vinny are just going to do their own thing no matter what.

I'd caveat that to a degree. They are professionals but to what extent. If there is a new coach from outside the organization, and they are fired, do you think they are going to give their best evaluations of the talent in Mobile? It's like a boss firing somebody and then asking them to fill out some reports. Ain't gonna happen. They don't have to worry about getting a bad reference because everybody in league knows the situation.
Speaking of references, I wonder if DS called up the Giants and Ravens and asked about Fassel. If so, their response was probably something like "well he sucked so bad here we had to fire him but I am sure he'll work out great for you guys. Snicker."

[redsk1]

Originally Posted by redwagonskins

I'd caveat that to a degree. They are professionals but to what extent. If there is a new coach from outside the organization, and they are fired, do you think they are going to give their best evaluations of the talent in Mobile? It's like a boss firing somebody and then asking them to fill out some reports. Ain't gonna happen. They don't have to worry about getting a bad reference because everybody in league knows the situation.
Speaking of references, I wonder if DS called up the Giants and Ravens and asked about Fassel. If so, their response was probably something like "well he sucked so bad here we had to fire him but I am sure he'll work out great for you guys. Snicker."

It's not so much about pleasing the players, it's about hiring a strong coach that has the potential to be a coach for a long period of time. IMO that's not Fassel, it is GW. And if not GW, than find someone better than JF.

[redwagonskins]

Originally Posted by redsk1

It's not so much about pleasing the players, it's about hiring a strong coach that has the potential to be a coach for a long period of time. IMO that's not Fassel, it is GW. And if not GW, than find someone better than JF.

Agreed.

[birdz4gibbs]

Originally Posted by redsk1

It's not so much about pleasing the players, it's about hiring a strong coach that has the potential to be a coach for a long period of time. IMO that's not Fassel, it is GW. And if not GW, than find someone better than JF.

i,m there also..if it aint gregg then find someone who will make a name for himself "long term".

do the right thing for the skins organization and it,s players...
1.4 billion for this

[scowan]

If we are not going to promote from within (Greg Williams), then why are we going after another old fart re-tread in Fassal or should I say Fossell! Geez! I think I will sell all of my Redskins stuff and pick a new team, with a more normal owner! The rollercoaster we have all been on since Snyder bought this Fantasy Football team has to end.

[AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace]

Originally Posted by scowan

If we are not going to promote from within (Greg Williams), then why are we going after another old fart re-tread in Fassal or should I say Fossell! Geez! I think I will sell all of my Redskins stuff and pick a new team, with a more normal owner! The rollercoaster we have all been on since Snyder bought this Fantasy Football team has to end.

don't say things you can't take back...especially around here

[SmootSmack]

Here's the thing. If Williams was named coach the day after Gibbs resigned, and then he made wholesale changes (or even if he didn't) and the team tanked then we'd still have people panicking and bitching and asking "Why didn't we go through a diligent interview process?" "What did Williams do to deserve being handed the full reigns?" And so on.

A lot of people feel the need to bitch and moan about everything all the time. That much should be pretty apparent to all of us by now.