Trouble in Redskins Park?

[hutch17]

Agreed, I am sure the McC report was used heavily but remember we kept most of our scouts and they are still in place too.

Moses is a Difference maker, I think Long will be the long term solution at C and looks to be top 1/3 at the positon, If they would just let Trent keep his hand in the dirt I feel he could be border line pro-bowler and Bre should be the starter at Nickel and let Dunbar or Fuller be on the outside.

remembering old late round names that I got jacked up about is the best. Bacarri Rambo

[Meks]

Marko mitchell

[mredskins]

Honestly it could Jesus Christ in charge of the Skins and some of you would still complain.

If not BA then who? Remember they got want come here too and deal with DS.

[OmahaRedskins]

I do not give a shit how BA snag 4 starters in his one and only draft class. He did it and that class is a big part of the turn around. He may not be a top 5 GM or Team President, but has done a nice job at Washington. For the most part he has kept Dan in check and we have had two winning seasons in a row.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by mredskins

Honestly it could Jesus Christ in charge of the Skins and some of you would still complain.

If not BA then who? Remember they got want come here too and deal with DS.

Are you successfully repressing the Shanahan years? Bruce has been here since Vinny got fired in 2009, everything between then and McC has been Bruce's drafts. Who was responsible for RG3? Is that all Dan or does Bruce deserve some of that blame too? We know Mike and Kyle didn't want him.

[OmahaRedskins]

Originally Posted by mooby

Are you successfully repressing the Shanahan years? Bruce has been here since Vinny got fired in 2009, everything between then and McC has been Bruce's drafts. Who was responsible for RG3? Is that all Dan or does Bruce deserve some of that blame too? We know Mike and Kyle didn't want him.

Mike had final say on all roster decisions. If he really did not want RG3 he would not have made the trade. Mike can deflect and blame Dan, but Dan was a lost puppy with with Mike and would have he followed his decision.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by OmahaRedskins

Mike had final say on all roster decisions. If he really did not want RG3 he would not have made the trade. Mike can deflect and blame Dan, but Dan was a lost puppy with with Mike and would have he followed his decision.

I'm not sitting here trying to defend Mike, he made poor picks at coaches and he bears partial blame for the poor drafting past the first round (T.Will and Ryan K. were good picks), but do you really think Mike S. would've stood his ground and told Dan/Bruce no if Dan wanted RG3 no matter the cost?

[SolidSnake84]

Originally Posted by mooby

I'm not sitting here trying to defend Mike, he made poor picks at coaches and he bears partial blame for the poor drafting past the first round (T.Will and Ryan K. were good picks), but do you really think Mike S. would've stood his ground and told Dan/Bruce no if Dan wanted RG3 no matter the cost?

This ^^^^^^

Similar to the Jeff Fisher / Jared Goff situation, Shanahan absolutely did not want RG3, that is why he took Cousins as well to have as a backup plan. I believe Shanahan has said that several times. At the end of the day MS tried to make RG3 work because that was what he was paid to do.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by mooby

Are you successfully repressing the Shanahan years? Bruce has been here since Vinny got fired in 2009, everything between then and McC has been Bruce's drafts. Who was responsible for RG3? Is that all Dan or does Bruce deserve some of that blame too? We know Mike and Kyle didn't want him.

Biggest issue...their decision making at the qb position. Because if you believe it's just Bruce, your wrong. Bruce/Dan working together in tandem. McC takes that away...which is the main reason I'm 100% in favor in doing everything thing possible to keep McC in the gm seat.

Doug Williams...that's just another yes man for dan. Pass

[hutch17]

Originally Posted by mooby

Are you successfully repressing the Shanahan years? Bruce has been here since Vinny got fired in 2009, everything between then and McC has been Bruce's drafts. Who was responsible for RG3? Is that all Dan or does Bruce deserve some of that blame too? We know Mike and Kyle didn't want him.

Shannahan had complete control of the draft while he was here, BA was in charge for 13' and 14' only

[SirLK26]

Originally Posted by hutch17

Shannahan had complete control of the draft while he was here, BA was in charge for 13' and 14' only

Shanahan was still here for the 2013 draft that brought in Reed and Thompson. Allen has been in charge of one draft, 2014, using McCloughan's scouting service. I very much doubt he's capable of being a full time personnel guy

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by mredskins

Honestly it could Jesus Christ in charge of the Skins and some of you would still complain.

If not BA then who? Remember they got want come here too and deal with DS.

Actually I really think the direction where we're heading is fine. I'm pro Scot and believe in the way he builds a team. The way Dan and Bruce do it is a loser way to build a team and their results speak for themselves.

[hutch17]

Originally Posted by mredskins

Honestly it could Jesus Christ in charge of the Skins and some of you would still complain.

If not BA then who? Remember they got want come here too and deal with DS.

Some people just can't be happy

[Evilgrin]

You can't base everything off one draft, good or bad.

[OmahaRedskins]

Originally Posted by Evilgrin

You can't base everything off one draft, good or bad.

You're right, but damn it was a nice draft class.