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Old 10-16-2020, 01:16 PM   #1
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Re: Alex Smith’s Amazing Comeback(?)

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A great human interest story of courage, with that said Alex should retire and not press his luck, let's face it he's never gonna be what he was in the pocket so just walk away and coach.
He didn't work 2 years for 2 quarters and 37 yards.


That's also just the beginning, not the end of his capabilities. We
ll see him again this season and he'll be more like the Alex Smith we've watched for 15 years.

I'm not judging him on being thrown into his first game, in the rain, against the best defensive player in the game right now, without taking a hit for 2 years.

He survived, that's a big accomplishment right there and he can and will perform better as he gets back into the routine.
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Old 10-16-2020, 11:54 AM   #2
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The only real positive story dealing with this franchise in like 20 years !
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Old 11-17-2020, 08:43 AM   #3
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Re: Alex Smith’s Amazing Comeback(?)

2 weeks ago this conversation didn't seem possible, but here we are

Rivera: Alex Smith has proven he is 'back', has chance to be the guy beyond 2020
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2 weeks ago this conversation didn't seem possible, but here we are

Rivera: Alex Smith has proven he is 'back', has chance to be the guy beyond 2020
Good lord no
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Why? Imagine if he had a couple more weapons, namely a TE and another WR, and a better O line? Add a secondary with some semblance of NFL talent and a MLB. Alex Smith is far from the problem right now.
Allows you to draft a quarterback in the 2nd or 3rd round to actually groom for a year or two or three.
As far as him holding up for a full season well he has the same chance as any other QB. It isnt like he is injury prone. Id say he is the exact opposite after this amazing comeback. Almost any other human would be retired. He is not only playing but playing damn well. As well as can be expected with what he has around him.

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If he keeps balling like he's been it's a legit discussion to be had. He's certainly proving to be a much better fit in Turner's offense than he ever was in Jay's. At the very least he can be a bridge to a rookie and take the pressure off having to get a QB in the top 5.
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If he keeps balling like he's been it's a legit discussion to be had. He's certainly proving to be a much better fit in Turner's offense than he ever was in Jay's. At the very least he can be a bridge to a rookie and take the pressure off having to get a QB in the top 5.
I just don't see him holding up for a full season.. He has played well
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Old 11-17-2020, 10:08 AM   #8
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Cant lie ... Id be fine with Alex Smith in 2021, especially if we dont add a blue chip QB in the top end of the draft. Seems like there is Lawrence/Fields then Lance/Wilson.

Alex Smith seems to fit Turner's quick read/throw scheme and perhaps his legs and escapability comeback to him as he plays more.

The idea of keeping Alex Smith then being able to add a stud LT (Sewell/Darrisaw) or LB (Parsons) or CB (Surtain) is not a bad second result if we dont get Lawrence/Fields and are not sold on Lance/Wilson.

The current top 8 players of the draft fits our needs nicely. ^^ These guys mentioned above are the top 8 prospects and fit our need of QB, LT, CB or LB.

We have good options ... as long as we dont drop out of the top 8.
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Old 11-17-2020, 10:23 AM   #9
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I know Russell Wilson was a 3rd rounder and brady a 6th ... but this organization has not shown the ability to identify certain traits of a player that fit their scheme to allow a 2nd or 3rd rounder to flourish.

if we go QB ... it has to be a top prospect QB imo. Our organization is not good enough to pull a Wilson out of a magical hat.
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I know Russell Wilson was a 3rd rounder and brady a 6th ... but this organization has not shown the ability to identify certain traits of a player that fit their scheme to allow a 2nd or 3rd rounder to flourish.

if we go QB ... it has to be a top prospect QB imo. Our organization is not good enough to pull a Wilson out of a magical hat.
Not so sure of that because Snyder has continuously gotten in the way when it comes to making QB decisions. So who really knows who the football guys in the building really wanted when they were instead forced to take Haskins.
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I know Russell Wilson was a 3rd rounder and brady a 6th ... but this organization has not shown the ability to identify certain traits of a player that fit their scheme to allow a 2nd or 3rd rounder to flourish.

if we go QB ... it has to be a top prospect QB imo. Our organization is not good enough to pull a Wilson out of a magical hat.
Out of curiosity, what about the pre-Brady Patriots made you think they were a "good enough" organization to do that? They were a flat out bad team for years, as I recall. Kyle Smith has shown an eye to find talent with the McLaurin and Gibson picks, IMO. Do you think that eye is limited to non-quarterbacks?
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Out of curiosity, what about the pre-Brady Patriots made you think they were a "good enough" organization to do that? They were a flat out bad team for years, as I recall. Kyle Smith has shown an eye to find talent with the McLaurin and Gibson picks, IMO. Do you think that eye is limited to non-quarterbacks?
I honestly dont know. I like Kyle Smith, like all of us do. McLaurin was a great pick, Gibson im not sold on yet.

Just as a general rule, I think the percentage of a QB becoming a franchise Qb drops significantly after the top 5-10 picks or so. And if a Qb taken in the 2nd or 3rd does work out, teams with good FO and long term coaching staffs on the same page will have a higher success rate vs teams that dont.

its not some hot take here .... a Qb taken top 5 has a much better chance vs a guy dropping to the 2nd or 3d round.

If we can land a top tier QB in 2021, great. if we cant, hopefully we stay in the top 8 so we can add a stud at a position of need.
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Old 11-17-2020, 10:39 AM   #13
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I hear that and I do like Kyle Smith .. but as a general rule, Id only take a QB, LT or pass rusher with a top 10 pick. Once you get out of that range, I think the prospects of landing a fraqchise QB, LT or pass rusher go down significantly.

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I'd put it this way, if AS can last the rest of the season with no significant setbacks and wants to play next year, why shove him out the door automatically? Let him compete with whoever in camp.

From the sound of it, Haskins is persona non grata, so I doubt he'll be on the roster much longer. KA isn't the solution, we don't know if he'll come back from the injury OK and he's an FA. If Montez was anything approaching starter material he wouldn't be on the PS.

And if we draft a QB high unless he comes out like a rocket in camp, I see nothing wrong with doing a Fitz/Tua with Smith. Yes Tua was hurt but he also needed to acclimatise. Half a season on the bench hasn't hurt him by the look of it.
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I'd put it this way, if AS can last the rest of the season with no significant setbacks and wants to play next year, why shove him out the door automatically? Let him compete with whoever in camp.

From the sound of it, Haskins is persona non grata, so I doubt he'll be on the roster much longer. KA isn't the solution, we don't know if he'll come back from the injury OK and he's an FA. If Montez was anything approaching starter material he wouldn't be on the PS.

And if we draft a QB high unless he comes out like a rocket in camp, I see nothing wrong with doing a Fitz/Tua with Smith. Yes Tua was hurt but he also needed to acclimatise. Half a season on the bench hasn't hurt him by the look of it.
I don't have a problem letting AS finish out his contract here but under no circumstances should they resign him.
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