Bountygate Punishment for the Saints

mooby · 03-26-2012, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsguy

Wow, the Tuna in the Big Easy?? Say it ain't so!

It ain't so.

Personally I think it would be a good move on the Saints part since they know Payton will be gone the whole year.

celts32 · 03-26-2012, 03:32 PM

I am amazed that 57% in this poll think the punishment was just right or to light. Would love to see those numbers if it were the Redskins getting these penalties. Suspending the head coach for a full season is like handing out a death sentence to the 2012 Saints. What did the Saints fans do to deserve that?...especially the season ticket holders who had to plunk down their money a couple weeks ago. I don't care if they fine Payton his entire salary but it is not fare to the fans for them to suspend him for a full season.

los panda · 03-26-2012, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by celts32

I am amazed that 57% in this poll think the punishment was just right or to light. Would love to see those numbers if it were the Redskins getting these penalties. Suspending the head coach for a full season is like handing out a death sentence to the 2012 Saints. What did the Saints fans do to deserve that?...especially the season ticket holders who had to plunk down their money a couple weeks ago. I don't care if they fine Payton his entire salary but it is not fare to the fans for them to suspend him for a full season.

the fans? idk what the fans did. but if this were another line of work, chances are that these people would have been fired as opposed to suspended. they may have even faced criminal charges. if they worked for company x, i doubt anyone would ask "what did company x's customers do to deserve that?"

MTK · 03-26-2012, 03:43 PM

It sure didn't seem to hurt their season ticket sales.

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Imagine if Parcells gets talked into running the ship for a season? I don't think losing Payton is going to hurt them a whole lot in the end. Brees can practically run the offense in his sleep. All they need is a caretaker at HC.

GMScud · 03-26-2012, 03:46 PM

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It sure didn't seem to hurt their season ticket sales. Imagine if Parcells gets talked into running the ship for a season? I don't think losing Payton is going to hurt them a whole lot in the end. Brees can practically run the offense in his sleep. All they need is a caretaker at HC.

Not to mention Payton's job isn't threatened if Parcells takes the reins for a year. He's 71 years old. He's no long-term threat. But if one of this assistants steps in on an interim basis and the team is still very successful, Benson may think twice about bringing Payton back with all that baggage. Of course I suppose any decision is Benson's anyway.

Ruhskins · 03-26-2012, 03:48 PM

Does anyone know the details about why the Saints can't put one of their assistants as an interim? Is it another rule that the NFL just made up or something?

MTK · 03-26-2012, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Does anyone know the details about why the Saints can't put one of their assistants as an interim? Is it another rule that the NFL just made up or something?

Who says they can't?

mbedner3420 · 03-26-2012, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Does anyone know the details about why the Saints can't put one of their assistants as an interim? Is it another rule that the NFL just made up or something?

They can, but I can think of two reasons why Payton wouldn't. 1) Sean Payton is worried that one of them will out do him, thus he is worried about his job security and has contacted Parcells because he knows he will only be a one year type deal; or 2) He has no faith that any of his coordinators are good enough to be head coaches currently.

Ruhskins · 03-26-2012, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by mbedner3420

They can, but I can think of two reasons why Payton wouldn't. 1) Sean Payton is worried that one of them will out do him, thus he is worried about his job security and has contacted Parcells because he knows he will only be a one year type deal; or 2) He has no faith that any of his coordinators are good enough to be head coaches currently.

Oh okay...I don't know for some reason some sports talking head on Twitter (can't remember who) said as though there was some rule preventing him from doing it.

mbedner3420 · 03-26-2012, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Oh okay...I don't know for some reason some sports talking head on Twitter (can't remember who) said as though there was some rule preventing him from doing it.

The only rule I know of is the Rooney rule that requires the team to interview a black coach for the position should the team look outside the organization for a replacement. Though, that may be unrelated to what you are looking for...

GMScud · 03-26-2012, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by mbedner3420

The only rule I know of is the Rooney rule that requires the team to interview a black coach for the position should the team look outside the organization for a replacement. Though, that may be unrelated to what you are looking for...

I wonder how the Rooney Rule applies in this situation. It's an interim head coach filling in for a head coach that is currently under contract, but suspended. Certainly a different situation than the normal coaching search process.

sportscurmudgeon · 03-26-2012, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Does anyone know the details about why the Saints can't put one of their assistants as an interim? Is it another rule that the NFL just made up or something?

The Saints can name almost anyone to be their head coach next year. The only people I can think of off the top of my head who would not be allowed to work in that job would be Sean Payton, Gregg Williams, Joe Vitt and Micky Loomis. Are there any other folks sitting out league imposed banishments? If so, none of them could be the Saints coach either...

Swarley · 03-26-2012, 04:40 PM

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NFL officials interviewed former #Redskins player for 5 hrs yesterday about Greg Williams and bounty issues in Washington

Ruhskins · 03-26-2012, 04:43 PM

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@PatKirwanCBS
NFL officials interviewed former #Redskins player for 5 hrs yesterday about Greg Williams and bounty issues in Washington

Probably has to do with further investigation in regards to GW. Unless John Mara stirred something up.

mbedner3420 · 03-26-2012, 04:49 PM

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Probably has to do with further investigation in regards to GW. Unless John Mara stirred something up.

Sorta makes you wonder really.

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03-26-2012, 03:32 PM	#2
celts32 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hackettstown NJ Age: 54 Posts: 2,665	Re: Bountygate Punishment for the Saints I am amazed that 57% in this poll think the punishment was just right or to light. Would love to see those numbers if it were the Redskins getting these penalties. Suspending the head coach for a full season is like handing out a death sentence to the 2012 Saints. What did the Saints fans do to deserve that?...especially the season ticket holders who had to plunk down their money a couple weeks ago. I don't care if they fine Payton his entire salary but it is not fare to the fans for them to suspend him for a full season. __________________ Section 116 Row 19 “Goal line, goal line. I-left, tight wing, 70 chip on white.” www.facebook.com/HackettstownBeerClub

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MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 52 Posts: 99,832	Re: Bountygate Punishment for the Saints It sure didn't seem to hurt their season ticket sales. Saints fans not bailing out over bounty fiasco \| ProFootballTalk Imagine if Parcells gets talked into running the ship for a season? I don't think losing Payton is going to hurt them a whole lot in the end. Brees can practically run the offense in his sleep. All they need is a caretaker at HC. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

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Ruhskins Living Legend Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 22,378	Re: Bountygate Punishment for the Saints Does anyone know the details about why the Saints can't put one of their assistants as an interim? Is it another rule that the NFL just made up or something? __________________ R.I.P. #21

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Swarley The Starter Join Date: Jan 2006 Age: 36 Posts: 1,092	Re: Bountygate Punishment for the Saints @PatKirwanCBS NFL officials interviewed former #Redskins player for 5 hrs yesterday about Greg Williams and bounty issues in Washington __________________ doing it all in the spirit of the salary cap!

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