How Many Games Should We Test Haskins?

[KI Skins Fan]

That ball must go to the end zone, no matter what. If everyone in the end zone is covered, then throw it high to your tallest receiver and hope he can bring it down.

Now, I think that play was a test for the coaches, as well. I have some questions I'd like to ask them about it:

Coach Rivera, you decided to go on fourth down. Does that mean you were going for the touchdown this time? I ask because in other games you just let the clock run down and in effect said "Fuck it!". Maybe your young QB thought you just wanted to see if he would go through his progressions, which he did and ended up throwing it short of the end zone. I mean, how is he and the rest of the team supposed to know when you want them to try to score or win the game versus just practice running plays? Perhaps you should tell them prior to each game if you'll be trying to win that week. That should help them.

Coach Rivera, why didn't you call a time out and make sure everyone was on the same page?

Coach Turner, did you call a special play designed to confuse the defense?

All coaches, did anyone remind your nervous young QB to throw it to the end zone?

All coaches, did anyone encourage your young QB with a pat on the butt and a "Go get 'em!" to send him back into game?

[jamf]

Too many excuses from the Haskins camp.

Haskins makes a conscious effort to be a leader then goes on social media to argue with fans after the game. Now his agent is publicly saying his teammates suck ass.
Not a good look from the face of the franchise.

[skinsfaninok]

The 4th down playcall was garbage

[Warthog]

Here are the things that we get by keeping Haskins in, IF HE CONTINUES TO IMPROVE:

1. Convince our loser owner that Rivera is giving Haskins the due diligence to succeed, since Snyder & Allen drafted him, even with his gross lack of experience.

2. Make his value as trade bait go up, when we Draft a NEW QB in the 2021 draft!

3. Improve Haskins as the BACKUP QB for the team’s rookie QB next year, after a pre-season shootout.

Rivera knows how good Allen is, as the backup. Unless Dwayne is really playing badly and/or regressing a lot we get NOTHING by putting in Allen except a victory of two more. We need a legitimate TE#1, WR # 2,3 (Inman is ok, but not the long-term answer) and at least one OT and at least one Safety. Those pieces can’t be obtained now, everything is picked clean. The team will need to use our best draft picks and trading players or BIG-Money FA pickups to fill these spots. I think Rivera could have used some FA money to get these players this season, but he wanted to see what we had. Now we know!!

Playing Allen gets us nothing but one or two wins - there are just not enough weapons now. We get much, much by playing Haskins now - as trade bait, to keep Snyder happy, and as a backup next year.


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[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Warthog

Here are the things that we get by keeping Haskins in, IF HE CONTINUES TO IMPROVE:

1. Convince our loser owner that Rivera is giving Haskins the due diligence to succeed, since Snyder & Allen drafted him, even with his gross lack of experience.

2. Make his value as trade bait go up, when we Draft a NEW QB in the 2021 draft!

3. Improve Haskins as the BACKUP QB for the team’s rookie QB next year, after a pre-season shootout.

Rivera knows how good Allen is, as the backup. Unless Dwayne is really playing badly and/or regressing a lot we get NOTHING by putting in Allen except a victory of two more. We need a legitimate TE#1, WR # 2,3 (Inman is ok, but not the long-term answer) and at least one OT and at least one Safety. Those pieces can’t be obtained now, everything is picked clean. The team will need to use our best draft picks and trading players or BIG-Money FA pickups to fill these spots. I think Rivera could have used some FA money to get these players this season, but he wanted to see what we had. Now we know!!

Playing Allen gets us nothing but one or two wins - there are just not enough weapons now. We get much, much by playing Haskins now - as trade bait, to keep Snyder happy, and as a backup next year.


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I think if Haskins doesn’t work out and Ron goes another route this offseason, I got no problem keeping Haskins and having him Hold a clipboard and learn. Have him work on mechanics. Haskins needs to mature, but I’m not a throw the towel in and get rid of him. Haskins is too young with too much talent imo.

[Warthog]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

I think if Haskins doesn’t work out and Ron goes another route this offseason, I got no problem keeping Haskins and having him Hold a clipboard and learn. Have him work on mechanics. Haskins needs to mature, but I’m not a throw the towel in and get rid of him. Haskins is too young with too much talent imo.

Haskins needs GAME EXPERIENCE more than anything. He hasn’t even had a rookie QB’s number of games yet.

Both Haskins (2020) and Allen (2019 - Carolina) are at 80 QB rating. Haskins has a great deal more value as trade bait next year if he can improve. I DON’T think Haskin’s is the long-term answer at QB, but we may get Haskins to the point to be good trade material OR a good backup to our rookie QB next year. Unfortunately we have to suffer through he slow growth this season. But we need some new blood at critical positions to get better. We are not one player away from being a good team.

Good news is out cap money situation will be GREAT next year ($33 mill - third best in NFL) and we’ll have great draft position it looks like. We are going to get an outstanding QB draft pick in 2021!


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[DYoungJelly]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

I think if Haskins doesn’t work out and Ron goes another route this offseason, I got no problem keeping Haskins and having him Hold a clipboard and learn. Have him work on mechanics. Haskins needs to mature, but I’m not a throw the towel in and get rid of him. Haskins is too young with too much talent imo.

This is a great idea.

[Defensewins]

Rookie QB Joe Burrow has never dressed, played or started in an NFL games before his first NFL start a month ago. No preseason ever. His first training camp was very limited compared to Haskins 2019 camp and preseason. The Bungles are not any better than WFT.
All rookie QB's are going through the same thing this year. The excuses for Haskins and that a rookie is playing better than him is telling. Drafting Haskins at #15 was a reach.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

Rookie QB Joe Burrow has never dressed, played or started in an NFL games before his first NFL start a month ago. No preseason ever. His first training camp was very limited compared to Haskins 2019 camp and preseason. The Bungles are not any better than WFT.
All rookie QB's are going through the same thing this year. The excuses for Haskins and that a rookie is playing better than him is telling. Drafting Haskins at #15 was a reach.

But joe burrow’s last year...he jumped Tau, I highly coveted prospect. His tape last year jumps...nfl system, throws in traffic, anticipation, pre snap...the Alabama game last year? Wow, that tape is an all time college QB performance.

Borrow and Haskins not in the same class IMO

[calia]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

Rookie QB Joe Burrow has never dressed, played or started in an NFL games before his first NFL start a month ago. No preseason ever. His first training camp was very limited compared to Haskins 2019 camp and preseason. The Bungles are not any better than WFT.
All rookie QB's are going through the same thing this year. The excuses for Haskins and that a rookie is playing better than him is telling. Drafting Haskins at #15 was a reach.

We may have to rename you irrefutable. Oh, that’s taken. But this is.


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[skinsfaninok]

Joe Burrow will be a top 10 QB in the league for the next decade... Haskins needs to be compared to the likes of a Trubisky or a Lock.

[BaltimoreSkins]

There is a reason Burrow was #1 and Haskins #15 right? True franchise QBs are top 5 picks. We all new Haskins was a project. He had one year of college experience and went to a shitty high school program (not that you should draft a player based on high school in the nfl). Got to let the guy learn. This is when it is a shame Alex Smith can't go.

[MTK]

Majority favor Haskins over Darnold, Jones in blind QB test

[RedskinJake]

Originally Posted by MTK

Majority favor Haskins over Darnold, Jones in blind QB test

There’s an old saying when it comes to young guys in racing, it’s easier to slow them down than to get them to go faster. Risk takers can be trained when not to take a risk but it’s hard to train someone to be a risk taker. Too many natural instincts to fight. Haskins can be a good QB but he’s likely never going to be an elite QB. He needs experience, something he should have gotten before he got to the NFL. Being risk adverse and inexperienced will be tough to overcome. What he needs is for the team to build around him and be willing to lose for 2-3 years while he gets the experience but the team might not, and shouldn’t be, willing to do that.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by MTK

Majority favor Haskins over Darnold, Jones in blind QB test

Majority of people prefer to step in gum over dog shit but both scenarios are unfavorable.