Do You Want Jason Campbell Back in 2010?

[tryfuhl]

Brady was actually drafted in the 6th, not that that was the point.

[SmootSmack]

Raise your hand if you'd prefer Levi Jones, Derrick Dockery, and Casey Rabach to Joe Thomas, Eric Steinbach, and Alex Mack

[MTK]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Raise your hand if you'd prefer Levi Jones, Derrick Dockery, and Casey Rabach to Joe Thomas, Eric Steinbach, and Alex Mack

There should be no discussion to this.

At all.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

I stand corrected on Cleavelands line. I didnt realize it had improved so much since last year. NFL.com has them ranked 11th this year. Still, I don't change my opinion that Brady Quinn is similar to where Jason Campbell was at the same point in his career and, by default, Quinn has more upside. I seriously doubt there are any teams out there salivating at the possibility of landing Campbell in the offseason.

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

I stand corrected on Cleavelands line. I didnt realize it had improved so much since last year. NFL.com has them ranked 11th this year. Still, I don't change my opinion that Brady Quinn is similar to where Jason Campbell was at the same point in his career and, by default, Quinn has more upside. I seriously doubt there are any teams out there salivating at the possibility of landing Campbell in the offseason.

Quinn absolutely sucks Big Hair. How can you get pulled for Derek Anderson? Last decent NFL QB from ND was Joey T. It is like a curse or something, even bigger than the Madden curse.

[kjahorski]

No, for multiple reasons...1) he doesn't read defenses, does not seem to adjust to the game 2) his accuracy is poor....throws in the dirt, over head, behind receiver. He has to have the team record for 5 yards of fewer pass completions, when the reciever is standing still. When it is 3rd and 8....bs.. 3) no big time plays when we need them....when was the last time he took us down the field to win the in the final 2 minutes? 4) slow release......reaction time......and stupid decisions.....2 intential grouding calls in one game? 4) he doesn't want to be back...when asked he said, "we'll see"....I don't want him back if he doesn't want to be back. 5) he will never take a team to the SB...I don't care how great the line is.....that is an excuse....good QB's make plays. 6) it really doesn't matter...if the Skins wanted him back he would already be signed.......he will not be the Skins starting QB next year......good luck in St. Louis/TB ....or wherever Jason.......you will be lucky to be a starter next year........................

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by kjahorski

No, for multiple reasons...1) he doesn't read defenses, does not seem to adjust to the game 2) his accuracy is poor....throws in the dirt, over head, behind receiver. He has to have the team record for 5 yards of fewer pass completions, when the reciever is standing still. When it is 3rd and 8....bs.. 3) no big time plays when we need them....when was the last time he took us down the field to win the in the final 2 minutes? 4) slow release......reaction time......and stupid decisions.....2 intential grouding calls in one game? 4) he doesn't want to be back...when asked he said, "we'll see"....I don't want him back if he doesn't want to be back. 5) he will never take a team to the SB...I don't care how great the line is.....that is an excuse....good QB's make plays. 6) it really doesn't matter...if the Skins wanted him back he would already be signed.......he will not be the Skins starting QB next year......good luck in St. Louis/TB ....or wherever Jason.......you will be lucky to be a starter next year........................

AMEN

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

Quinn absolutely sucks Big Hair. How can you get pulled for Derek Anderson? Last decent NFL QB from ND was Joey T. It is like a curse or something, even bigger than the Madden curse.

How about Joe Montana?

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

Quinn absolutely sucks Big Hair. How can you get pulled for Derek Anderson? Last decent NFL QB from ND was Joey T. It is like a curse or something, even bigger than the Madden curse.

Actually Anderson got pulled for Quinn this year, and he only got his job back when Quinn went on IR with a broken foot.

[MTK]

Quinn is pretty bad. He had 3 starts this year where he threw for less than 100 yards. At this point I would say his upside is pretty low. Is there a team out there that would choose Quinn over JC if given the choice between the two??

[GusFrerotte]

Sorry Big Hair, but I disagree. Too much bad Qbing going on for JC not to garner at least some interest by at least a handful of teams. I hope we end up getting a QB in rounds 2-3. Canfield, Stull, Sheehan, Brown, Elliot, Lefevour, and definitely Kafka from Northwestern will be available then. Next season Dalton, Keenum, and Enderle will up for grabs. I say keep JC and dump the other two and get some young studs in here. There is a lot of QB talent going under the radar because of the "Big 4". Mallet in 2012 will be the hot commodity at QB, unless he gets hurt. God I hope we don't go Bradford. He isn't even playing in his bowl game. One whack from Ware and his shoulder will be toast.

[SmootSmack]

How does Quinn have more upside by default?

[mooby]

I say yes. My reasoning would be that how do you evaluate this guy with everything that happened?

My two big negatives for evaluating -

- Crappy o-line in front of him
- Playcalling change mid-season

And then I look at his body of work and say, well he still didn't have that horrible of a season in spite of everything that happened and he's shown enough for me to say that with a decent o-line in front of him his prospects would probably fare better, I'd say keep him. As a gm I wouldn't give him that multi-year deal with long term security but I'd give him at least another season or two to gauge him.

But as a GM I'd also have to consider the prospects of another team wanting to sign him. In the event he remains a restricted free agent all offseason (I'm not too sure what the deal is with that) and teams came at me with decent offers, such as a 1st/3rd or even a 1st/2nd to sign him then I'd have to consider what might be the best deal for the new coach/long term future of the team might be.

[SC Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by mooby

... teams came at me with decent offers, such as a 1st/3rd or even a 1st/2nd to sign him then I'd have to consider what might be the best deal for the new coach/long term future of the team might be. ...

You are overreaching by a large margin with those expectations, but a trade is the best case scenario at this point.

One thing I have realized this year is that if you have to consistently make excuses for a quarterback then you do not have a very good player.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by SC Skins Fan

You are overreaching by a large margin with those expectations, but a trade is the best case scenario at this point.

One thing I have realized this year is that if you have to consistently make excuses for a quarterback then you do not have a very good player.

You do realize the Skins could put a 1st/3rd tender on him just so if another team wants him they'd have to pay the price right? You need to stop looking at this through the eyes of a biased 'Skins fan and see how he might be evaluated around the league. Look at him from a different franchise' perspective: He's still young, got decent starter experience, has experienced growth in almost all major statistics since he became the starter, and is deserving of the benefit of the doubt because the franchise is disheveled and he had to deal with a crappy o-line and changing playcallers midseason.

And one thing I've learned this year is we can talk all day about how bad/good a quarterback is, but it doesn't mean jack shit as to how he's evaluated around the league. You see trades go on all the time where one team gets fleeced but they still think they got the good end of a deal. Weirder things have happened in this league and they will continue to happen.