Do You Unequivocally Believe RG3 Is Our Franchise QB?

[Green Monk Machine]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

I really feel that you will never see Cousins ever again in a redskins uniform. If Cousins comes in and plays well, and the team wins, there is an instant QB controversy. Shanahan doesn't want any of it. My gut says if he is still here next year that he trades cousins away...

It doesn't have to be though and this is why Kyle is so f'n dumb.
When Kirk played Cleveland game, it was fantastic. No pistol no option all down field passing routes and smash mouth football.

With Rob on field Kyle has the most f* up play calling and turns into an 8 year old playing Madden. Kyle doesn't realize he isn't coaching NCAA. Unless working for your dad is such a non reality that he can live in a fantasy world and do the most nonsense I've ever seen and still be employed is like what if billy madison ran the redskins.

[diehardskin2982]

Syder needs to lure Russ Grimm out of retirement to become the Oline coach here. Philosophies be dammed.

RG3 needs to file a grievance with the NFLPA because I believe the league has deemed it okay to hit him at any point because he is a "running" QB. There are some plays last night and this season where Robert has gotten hit after the ball was out of his hands. He actually got kicked in the balls last night and the refs didn't call it. Time and time again players that face us get fined for the things that they have do after the game, but are allowed to do it during the game with no call from the refs. His career will be short in this NFL is the refs continue to treat him like a running back when they call games.
RG3 can't turn into a pocket passer if he has no choice but to run on every play because the refs let him get hit after the ball is out of his hands.

[Green Monk Machine]

Originally Posted by Skins4L

we shoulda had VJax if they didn't hit us with that cap penalty... no first rd pick the same year... rg got no offseason with these bum wrs... it spelled disaster but we were all still so blind and inflated from last year. now that were all deflated lets come back next year with a nice lil FA and go to work.

I think we paid the same contract for garçon that vjax took to not come here.
That's what happens, if we want players, we have to over pay to compensate for the losses that they will have to endure.

I'm not buying the lack of offseason. It's Kyle man. Every pass is a god damn play action. When we are losing by 20pts, teams want us to run the ball. If they give up a 1st down, so be it. It doesn't effect the scoreboard. Having a crap OL and as they said last night the smallest OL in the league, those wasted seconds to play action is less time for a scrambling QB to look down field. The knock on rob is that he isn't a pocket QB. That's a major fucking red flag. Instead Kyle has an offense that enables robs weakness. Instead of having rob in a quick passing selection rob has to either play action or run it.
I can't accept that Alfred is too poor to run the ball, why is our QB running and taking hits? Our defense doesn't even get a sack let alone a hard hit on their QB and we expose ours to 10+ hits a night?
Fire Shanahans.
Our defense whores itself out in the passing game and allows anyone to score, we answer with play action and QB runs?
Teams no huddle and move the ball on us. We answer with 7wr screens and line WR's in the backfield?
We are helping the teams out.
Then, with 3mins left in the game, we cut out most of the bullshit and try to desperately score a d undo a 20+ PT lead?
Procrastinating and f'kn dumb. Father and son.
Snyder needs to get the helicopter and drop Kyle out of it and send a message to scarf ace shanahan down below.
Get Colombian Snyder!!!!!

[TheSmurfs22]

Second year player coming off major injury. Team overall needs a lot of help. Too early to pull the plug on RG3. Funny how last year he was the franchise savior now this year people are ready to throw him out of town.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by TheSmurfs22

Second year player coming off major injury. Team overall needs a lot of help. Too early to pull the plug on RG3. Funny how last year he was the franchise savior now this year people are ready to throw him out of town.

preach

[Green Monk Machine]

Originally Posted by TheSmurfs22

Second year player coming off major injury. Team overall needs a lot of help. Too early to pull the plug on RG3. Funny how last year he was the franchise savior now this year people are ready to throw him out of town.

Nobody is ready to give up on Robert.
People are done with Kyle.
If Kyle stays, than we want Kirk b/c Kirk won't have he same detrimental play calls.
It doesn't matter that he may be less of a QB, we need a QB to pass the ball. Nothing more or less.
Under Kyle, I could envision Aldrick being the backup QB, b/c Kyle wants speed at the QB position.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by TheSmurfs22

Second year player coming off major injury. Team overall needs a lot of help. Too early to pull the plug on RG3. Funny how last year he was the franchise savior now this year people are ready to throw him out of town.

That is the nature of Redskins nation I'm afraid. People want instant gratification and most of the time, commonsense doesn't seem to be a factor in their thinking. The beating that RGIII took last night was pretty harsh. I just want to know how many Redskins fans could play top notch football after getting hit by #99 several times AND getting kicked in the family jewels by him?

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Too early to call the reigning rookie of the year a bust eh?

It's too early. But Vince Yong won ROY too. lol.....I'm just sayin'

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

When you're under a heavy pass rush, you get the ball out of the QB's hands as quickly as possible. That's why they ran so many WR screens. With this O-line, get used to that.

At this point, they're in developmental time with RGIII. If you pull him, you're only hurting his chances to learn.

There are several questions I have with regards to pulling him.

1. What is the psychological cost? Especially for what we have invested.
2. If o-line play is part of the problem are we going to have two young shell-shocked QBs on the roster if Cousins starts?
3. Why now? Are we hoping to improve this season or are we trying to improve for next year?

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Green Monk Machine

It doesn't have to be though and this is why Kyle is so f'n dumb.
When Kirk played Cleveland game, it was fantastic. No pistol no option all down field passing routes and smash mouth football.

With Rob on field Kyle has the most f* up play calling and turns into an 8 year old playing Madden. Kyle doesn't realize he isn't coaching NCAA. Unless working for your dad is such a non reality that he can live in a fantasy world and do the most nonsense I've ever seen and still be employed is like what if billy madison ran the redskins.

It was unbearable last night. All those stupid ass screens. Even Gruden called him out. Can't wait for him to get a pink slip.

[irish]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

It was unbearable last night. All those stupid ass screens. Even Gruden called him out. Can't wait for him to get a pink slip.

I think they have to throw those screens because 1) the line cant block long enough for the receivers to get open. 2) RG3's downfield accuracy is terrible.

[over the mountain]

RG3 can win a superbowl.

polombus looked bad last week but last night was worse. im sure the FO would have upgraded RT if they had available money but i do blame them for settling for a cost-effective but underwhelming interior OL.

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

There are several questions I have with regards to pulling him.

1. What is the psychological cost? Especially for what we have invested.
2. If o-line play is part of the problem are we going to have two young shell-shocked QBs on the roster if Cousins starts?
3. Why now? Are we hoping to improve this season or are we trying to improve for next year?

1. RG3 is a baller. I think he'd come out next year with something to prove. He doesn't seem like the mentally, "cracks under pressure" type. In regards to his on the field play, eh. He definitely tries to be a 1-man team under pressure. That's red flags all over to me, not about him, but about the fact I feel like he has zero confidence in his teammates to help him out.

2. I think playing KC the last 2-3 games of the season shouldn't leave him shell-shocked. I think if anything it reinforces the fact that our o-line stinks and the problem lies more with them and less on our QB. If KC were to come out and deliver, then you can lay less blame on the o-line and more on the QB. But I'm pretty sure the O-line is a big part of the problem.

3. Its the end of the season, might as well screw around with things. What we were doing the first 11 games weren't working, sooooo... yeahhhh...

[HailGreen28]

Originally Posted by TheSmurfs22

Second year player coming off major injury. Team overall needs a lot of help. Too early to pull the plug on RG3. Funny how last year he was the franchise savior now this year people are ready to throw him out of town.

"No pressure, no diamonds."

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by HailGreen28

"No pressure, no diamonds."

We're still working with a lump of coal over here.