Alex Smith’s Amazing Comeback(?)

[AnonEmouse]

Let's beat the Steelers for Alex!

[skinsfaninok]

57 of Alex Smith's 71 completions have come 10 yards or under...

36 of those 57 completions are in the middle of the field (Checkdowns)

He's played fine and I love the dude's will and guts but there is no way you don't draft a QB in the top 10 this yr.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

57 of Alex Smith's 71 completions have come 10 yards or under...

36 of those 57 completions are in the middle of the field (Checkdowns)

He's played fine and I love the dude's will and guts but there is no way you don't draft a QB in the top 10 this yr.

Well, I think that is by design. They have gravitated more towards a "West Coast" style of offense given the lack of overall talent on that side of the ball. That's why you see more of a horizontal type of passing game - basically an extension of the running game. It can be effective, but not as explosive.

I think the offense Turner would like to run requires a stronger inside running game, a quality pass catching tight end, and at least two fast receivers that can stretch the field. Not to mention a quality QB.

I think we have the quality QB now, and at least one quality receiver in McLaurin (Sims might be the other guy), but the running game (o-line), and the TE are weak points.

But yeah, they likely draft a QB next year. Maybe not in the first round, but somewhere...

[SCRedskinsFan]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

Well, I think that is by design. They have gravitated more towards a "West Coast" style of offense given the lack of overall talent on that side of the ball. That's why you see more of a horizontal type of passing game - basically an extension of the running game. It can be effective, but not as explosive.

I think the offense Turner would like to run requires a stronger inside running game, a quality pass catching tight end, and at least two fast receivers that can stretch the field. Not to mention a quality QB.

I think we have the quality QB now, and at least one quality receiver in McLaurin (Sims might be the other guy), but the running game (o-line), and the TE are weak points.

But yeah, they likely draft a QB next year. Maybe not in the first round, but somewhere...

If we have a top 5 pick we WILL pick a QB. No question.

It’s not like we have a franchise QB and the hype for Lawrence, Fields, Lance or Wilson will reach a crescendo before the draft. Could have avoided all this by drafting Tua when we had the chance. Hopefully lesson learned, in the NFL you’re not going anyplace without the man at QB. And he is not on the roster (or IR) at this point.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

57 of Alex Smith's 71 completions have come 10 yards or under...

36 of those 57 completions are in the middle of the field (Checkdowns)

He's played fine and I love the dude's will and guts but there is no way you don't draft a QB in the top 10 this yr.

Yup, you are going absolutely nowhere with Alex at QB and he isn’t the future. The best argument I’ve heard on why to play him is to evaluate other skill positions.

While it’s a nice story, bringing Alex back next year would be another in a long line of garbage decisions by an organization preaching culture change but doing the opposite. You need to find your QB this offseason, the sooner you do it the faster we can get on to this future I keep hearing about but not witnessing.

[Monkeydad]

Build up the team around him and it's a good formula for a few years. Rookie, even 1st Round QBs are a crapshoot as we know well. Remember how RG3 was going to save us? Haskins crashed and burned even faster.

Alex can still play and honestly, he's earned the shot to come back.



So how would you feel with Alex at QB and grab someone like Ja'Marr Chase to throw to beside McLaurin?

Or Micah Parsons at LB, a position we desperately need help?

Or finally a real left tackle to replace Trent?


A team with more talent led by Alex Smith vs. a team with the current talent led by a rookie QB not named Trevor Lawrence...which sounds better? I actually think Option 1.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Monkeydad

Build up the team around him and it's a good formula for a few years. Rookie, even 1st Round QBs are a crapshoot as we know well. Remember how RG3 was going to save us? Haskins crashed and burned even faster.

Alex can still play and honestly, he's earned the shot to come back.



So how would you feel with Alex at QB and grab someone like Ja'Marr Chase to throw to beside McLaurin?

Or Micah Parsons at LB, a position we desperately need help?

Or finally a real left tackle to replace Trent?


A team with more talent led by Alex Smith vs. a team with the current talent led by a rookie QB not named Trevor Lawrence...which sounds better? I actually think Option 1.

If he wasn't coming off the 2nd most gruesome injury ever for a QB I would say it's a good option but I don't see him lasting a full season.

[Monkeydad]

This myth keeps surfacing.

He's no more susceptible to injury than anyone else at this point. He's likely less mobile due to running speed but he was a great runner before, so he's still probably a better runner than a few statue QBs in the NFL.



This is coming from a person who has a body full of metal parts himself.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Monkeydad

This myth keeps surfacing.

He's no more susceptible to injury than anyone else at this point. He's likely less mobile due to running speed but he was a great runner before, so he's still probably a better runner than a few statue QBs in the NFL.



This is coming from a person who has a body full of metal parts himself.

I get that and I know he is ok but he's also what? 37 Years old? I just think Ron will want to draft his own guy

[mooby]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

I get that and I know he is ok but he's also what? 37 Years old? I just think Ron will want to draft his own guy

Well if we're going by the Tom Brady rules Smith has 5 more years of starting qb play left in him, so def. no need to draft a new guy right now.

Seriously I don't even understand why this is a discussion. We have an immobile 37 year old qb, any half decent team understands that's not an ideal position for the short or long term. Only way we don't draft a qb is if the guy Ron wants isn't available.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by mooby

Well if we're going by the Tom Brady rules Smith has 5 more years of starting qb play left in him, so def. no need to draft a new guy right now.

Seriously I don't even understand why this is a discussion. We have an immobile 37 year old qb, any half decent team understands that's not an ideal position for the short or long term. Only way we don't draft a qb is if the guy Ron wants isn't available.

I do agree with that, and it's entirely possible his guy isn't there when they pick, or that he isn't even in a first round target.

Smith's mobility doesn't bother me though - he's still more mobile than a lot of QBs in the league.

What I don't understand is the talk about bringing in a Veteran QB. Why would you release Smith and start over with another Veteran, who will command a decent salary himself, and who will have to get acquainted with the offense / staff, etc., when you have Alex Smith already under contract.

[Chico23231]

NFL Networks' Ian Rapoport said Washington head coach Ron Rivera wants Alex Smith back as the team's quarterback in 2021.

How about no

[Chief X_Phackter]

Yeah, but there was basically zero chance of drafting another QB in the first round before Rivera had a chance to evaluate Haskins himself. Not sure there was a lesson to be learned there. Chase was the correct pick.

I'm NOT for reaching for Lance if they pick in the top 10.

[SunnySide]

I think all the posts do a good job of laying out the "what if" scenarios. Theres good arguments to ride with Alex next year and good arguments to draft a QB. I think it comes down to personal choice.

I think we still have a lot of future unknown events that will dictate the decision.

1. Can Alex Smith stay healthy and finish the season not on IR? Thats not a given and if he tears an ACL or something, he'd be 37 next year and miss TC etc.

2. Assuming we are out of the Lawrence-fields sweepstakes and land the no. 5-10 pick, do we have a high enough grade on Wilson or Lance to take them vs a LT/LB/CB?

3. Maybe something stunning happens in FA and a Drew Brees is available ..

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Im fine with drafting a QB, going with Alex or going a vet FA route.

I do expect to be .500 or better next year.

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Alex smith contract -- 24.4M cap hit for 2021, if we cut him hes a 10.8 dead cap hit (but wed free up 13.6M)

[Chico23231]

One thing about the Tua vs Young talk...first both have been the real deal. But can Tua stay healthy and make it threw a full NFL season?

I have a tonnnn of doubts