Bountygate Punishment for the Saints

[sportscurmudgeon]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

So at this point it seems that Goodell has not closed the Bountygate investigation. Given how the league seems to make sh*t up, I am slightly concerned about this.

However, at worst I think any penalties would be a fine on the team, but they'd have to prove that Snyder somehow knew about this, since he's the only person leftover from that regime. A lot of the severity in the penalties for the Saints came because the league had warned them to stop the bounties and the Saints did not.

Still, as TMC said, I will be more comfortable after the draft once we've selected RG3 (or Luck). Before that, there's a small part of me that is paranoid about this. At least until the matter is closed by the league.

The NFL position on this has been that this is an ongoing investigation - - and it has been that way since the story on the Saints broke.

The league is not likely to "make stuff up"; there is no "stuff that has been made up" about the Saints; Gregg Williams and Sean Payton have pretty much admitted that what the NFL alleged to be the case was in fact the case.

And there are so many threads in this story/investigation/whatever that lead to the conclusion that Gregg Williams has done this before in other venues that the NFL HAS to do an investigation to learn whatever it might. Remember, the US Senate is going to hold hearings on this matter and that could put a lot of people under oath while they tell their stories.

Imagine Gregg Williams under oath sitting next to all the owners he has worked for and head coaches he has been the DC under and all of them are under oath too. The NFL would not like that to happen...

You really should not speculate on what might or might not happen to teams where Gregg Williams had been DC in the past. It is comforting to speculate that the worst that could happen to the Redskins would be a fine but you do not know - - and neither do I - - where an investigation might lead. The odds favor an investigation of the Redskins turning up some kind of "bounty system" but with no links to current management. But might there be links to the owner(s)? I have no idea...

I would say the same thing is true of an investgation of the years that Williams was in Tennessee, Jax and Buffalo and what links might be made within those teams to folks still associated with those teams.

And remember, the NFL has incentivized Gregg Williams to "spill the beans" on what went on in previous incarnations in the league. The commish's letter to him says that a major factor in the commish deciding whether to lift his indefinite suspension is the degree to which Williams cooparates with and furthers the ongoing investigation.

MAYBE you can be worried that Williams might start to "make stuff up". It is less likely that the NFL would find it beneficial to do the same.

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by GreekSkin

@PatKirwanCBS
NFL officials interviewed former #Redskins player for 5 hrs yesterday about Greg Williams and bounty issues in Washington

I'm worried. If the NFL docks us picks for this, I'll be determined that we are a cursed franchise if we lose our Griffin Pick. IF, thats a big IF, we get fined, I hope its just money, not picks.

[MTK]

The trade with the Rams is signed, sealed and delivered. No chance the NFL blows that up. None.

[Meks]

^^
i'm not sure what would go thru my mind or wat my immediate thoughts would be bit i will not type it in a public setting thatsfor sure

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

I'm worried. If the NFL docks us picks for this, I'll be determined that we are a cursed franchise if we lose our Griffin Pick. IF, thats a big IF, we get fined, I hope its just money, not picks.

Ha ha, I hope your not too dissappointed when the Colts take RG3. Lol.

I see Goodells comment as a shot over the bowel. Another frail attempt to scare DS into dropping the Arbitration. I hope to hell if Goodell does do it DS files his law suit. And I'd hope someone with some balls with the labor relations board would get involved and start their own investigations.


What would it take to get a Senator to let Goodell know they might be looking into the CAP punishments.

Goodell knows the fans are backing DS. He takes a shot across the bowel and hopes the fans get scared too and stop supporting DS in his filing. Figuring if he threatens our draft pick fans will back off scared. If it comes down to seeing you standing before a committee answering questions and having to give up hundreds of millions of dollars or keep our draft pick at this point I'd rather see you and the other 30 owners squirming having to answer questions and giving up the money. All so everyone realizes you and the league were wrong and were forced to pay for your illegal activity.

Maybe with any luck DS can file to have all NFL activity stop or be put on hold until there is a decision by the arbiters. This would also halt the possibility of RG3 going to another team before a decision is made. The league screwed our FA, but they definitely would not screw our draft.

[MTK]

Shot across the bowel?

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

The trade with the Rams is signed, sealed and delivered. No chance the NFL blows that up. None.

All the way up until they decide to take away our 1st RD pick forcing a no trade.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Shot across the bowel?

Lol misspelling? If so I'm way tired sorry.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

All the way up until they decide to take away our 1st RD pick forcing a no trade.

Sure.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Shot across the bowel?

That's the part of the front of a boat that looks like asscheeks.

[REDSKINS4ever]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

I'm worried. If the NFL docks us picks for this, I'll be determined that we are a cursed franchise if we lose our Griffin Pick. IF, thats a big IF, we get fined, I hope its just money, not picks.

Why would the NFL do this? Even if it did happen, the culprit responsible has been dealt with. Gregg Williams is in football jail right now serving an indefinite amount of time for his transgressions against the game. Why would the Redskins or Bills have to pay in any way? Plus, that was 2004-2007. We will not get docked any draft picks because of this scandal involving Gregg Williams.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

All the way up until they decide to take away our 1st RD pick forcing a no trade.

Where the hell would that even come from? The Saints main problem is that they continuously lied to Goddell and covered it up for 3 years.

[Ruhskins]

Despite any concerns some may have (including myself) I believe the NFL is further investigating this issue to see if there are other teams that have recently engage in bounty programs. While the whole cap issues may give us the idea of being paranoid, I just can't see how the NFL can place any penalties on the Redskins organization. Now, let's remember that player suspensions haven't been given out, so this may very well be part of that.

[NC_Skins]

Some of you guys are hilarious. Back away from the ledge before you hurt yourselves. Thanks.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Some of you guys are hilarious. Back away from the ledge before you hurt yourselves. Thanks.

Just opinions. In the end, many of us know that nothing will prob come out of this. But given the BS from the league in the whole cap-gate situation, I can see where people are concerned.

On a semi-related note. I am really curious to see what type of punishments Goodell will have for players. I am thinking the likes of Jonathan Vilma maybe suspended for several games up to possibly a year.