Super Bowl Gameday Thread

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Originally Posted by Giantone

THIS , people will hate the Pats no matter what ,it's jealousy .I asked a question a few threads a go ,Rogers admits he puts extra air in the footballs he use's ......is that cheating ,Brad Johnson said he had air taken out of the ball he was using for a super bowl ,are they cheaters ???

Bill Belichick and Tom Brady are respectfully the Best in their Positions .....ever. .

If it werent for two lucky catches you would be wanting them banned for life.
Edit: by the way they should probably check the helmet catch ball. That shit was definitely deflated.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Giantone

THIS , people will hate the Pats no matter what ,it's jealousy .I asked a question a few threads a go ,Rogers admits he puts extra air in the footballs he use's ......is that cheating ,Brad Johnson said he had air taken out of the ball he was using for a super bowl ,are they cheaters ???
Bill Belichick and Tom Brady are respectfully the Best in their Positions .....ever. .

Everyone you mentioned cheated, if they did what you say. The rule is clear, regardless of how many people may break it.

[over the mountain]

Originally Posted by Giantone

THIS , people will hate the Pats no matter what ,it's jealousy .I asked a question a few threads a go ,Rogers admits he puts extra air in the footballs he use's ......is that cheating ,Brad Johnson said he had air taken out of the ball he was using for a super bowl ,are they cheaters ???
Bill Belichick and Tom Brady are respectfully the Best in their Positions .....ever. .

2 major distinctions that any homer would readily overlook:

1. brad johnson paid someone to scuff the balls, not deflate them. At the time, that was illegal. Now teams can scuff the ball to their pleasure. Also, i believe at that time both teams used the same group of balls so this rule violation did not result in an unfair advantage for one team.

but yes - johnson certainly did cheat. and yes - it would be a big deal.

2. Rodgers sd he likes his balls over-inflated but when the NFL checks them, they reduce the PSI down to regulation level. There is no indication that Rodgers or anyone on the Packers staff alters the balls after the NFL refs check them.

so no - Rodgers is not cheating.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by over the mountain

2 major distinctions that any homer would readily overlook:

1. brad johnson paid someone to scuff the balls, not deflate them. At the time, that was illegal. Now teams can scuff the ball to their pleasure. Also, i believe at that time both teams used the same group of balls so this rule violation did not result in an unfair advantage for one team.

but yes - johnson certainly did cheat. and yes - it would be a big deal.

2. Rodgers sd he likes his balls over-inflated but when the NFL checks them, they reduce the PSI down to regulation level. There is no indication that Rodgers or anyone on the Packers staff alters the balls after the NFL refs check them.

so no - Rodgers is not cheating.

Ex-quarterback Jeff Blake -- Deflating footballs common - ESPN


Deflategate: NFL quarterbacks doctoring footballs is nothing new - CBSSports.com


Good reads

[over the mountain]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Ex-quarterback Jeff Blake -- Deflating footballs common - ESPN


Deflategate: NFL quarterbacks doctoring footballs is nothing new - CBSSports.com


Good reads

giantone, i like you but you being obtuse at this point. your smarter and better than this.

the post i replied to

1. you sd brad johnson underinflated balls = clearly false. he paid someone to scuff them.

2. you sd rodgers over inflates balls = i pointed out that rodgers never sd he or anyone on GB over inflates the balls after the refs check them like the pats are accused of doing. huge distinction. rodgers overinflating balls before giving them to the refs, who then deflate them to regulation is not cheating.

re the 2 articles you posted:

1. from the jeff blake article: you posted

"Many other NFL quarterbacks have said the opposite, that they've never messed with the inflation of a ball or seen anyone do so."

jeff blake (trying to get his name in there so he can become an NFL analyst) v many other QBs.

2. deflategate article - talks exclusively about old QBs scuffing brand new balls. scuffing balls is totally different from having your ball boy go into the bathroom and deflate balls after the NFL refs had checked them for regulation.




im not a big defaltegate guy with my pitchfork ... but at least make counter arguments based on accuracy, not peripheral issues.

[NC_Skins]

Film Breakdown: Butler's Superbowl Interception on Wilson

[donofriose]

Strong D real MVP of Super Bowl -- Tuesday Morning Quarterback - ESPN

Good article about how the defense stepped up.

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Originally Posted by donofriose

Strong D real MVP of Super Bowl -- Tuesday Morning Quarterback - ESPN



Good article about how the defense stepped up.

Sorry cannot overlook who Brady played against and his numbers. Especially his game winning drive. Pats D played great but Brady deserved the MVP. They should re-write this article about Eli Manning and the Justin Tuck led defense that put Brady on his butt in that Superbowl.

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[SirLK26]

I don't think the decision to throw or the actual play call were bad at all. Browner did a great job jamming Kearse at the line, and that's really where it went wrong for Seattle IMO. Wilson's throw would have needed to be perfect for Lockette to have a chance at scoring after that.

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Originally Posted by SirLK26

I don't think the decision to throw or the actual play call were bad at all. Browner did a great job jamming Kearse at the line, and that's really where it went wrong for Seattle IMO. Wilson's throw would have needed to be perfect for Lockette to have a chance at scoring after that.

Bottom line is beast mode gains one yard in two tries. No doubt about it. No perfect throw necessary.
Dont know if there is enough time to run it three times, but dont think they would have had to.

[irish]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Bottom line is beast mode gains one yard in two tries. No doubt about it. No perfect throw necessary.
Dont know if there is enough time to run it three times, but dont think they would have had to.

The problem with the pass was that it was late. If RW gets the ball to the receiver a step sooner (when he's wide open) its a TD and Seattle repeats.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by SirLK26

I don't think the decision to throw or the actual play call were bad at all. Browner did a great job jamming Kearse at the line, and that's really where it went wrong for Seattle IMO. Wilson's throw would have needed to be perfect for Lockette to have a chance at scoring after that.

People who think it wasn't a bad call: Bevell and you.

People who think it was a bad call: Everyone else.

I think we can all agree on this much: The interception was a very heavy price for the Seahawks to pay for going away from their bread and butter for one play. If the pass had just fallen incomplete, the Seahawks could have gone Beast Mode on the next play.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

People who think it wasn't a bad call: Bevell and you.

People who think it was a bad call: Everyone else.

I think we can all agree on this much: The interception was a very heavy price for the Seahawks to pay for going away from their bread and butter for one play. If the pass had just fallen incomplete, the Seahawks could have gone Beast Mode on the next play.

IMO that was the plan: throw now to loosen the defense, then go Beast Mode on the next play. It's not a bad plan...as long as you don't throw a pick.

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Originally Posted by Lotus

IMO that was the plan: throw now to loosen the defense, then go Beast Mode on the next play. It's not a bad plan...as long as you don't throw a pick.

Its a horrible plan. Im sorry. You are saying second down is just a wash. You just cannot afford to get that cute in that situation.