Why Hasn't Anyone Talked About-A Possible Cancellation?

[SunnySide]

Originally Posted by OnceWeWereKings

In addition, the death rate is something that can def be scrutinized. If someone commits suicide, but tests positive for covid, it's considered a covid death.

Im curious about this, Ive seen this said before but no real articles to cite to. What are you basing this on?

This is only for Washington State (below) but I have a hard time believing someone who is shot and killed is counted as a COVID death. What I read, the CDC only considers the death certificate cited cause of death.

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State officials also compare death certificates to disease surveillance data, to identify those who had Covid-19 but died of an unrelated cause, like a gunshot wound. Washington has removed such deaths.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...eath-toll.html

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

Im curious about this, Ive seen this said before but no real articles to cite to. What are you basing this on?

This is only for Washington State (below) but I have a hard time believing someone who is shot and killed is counted as a COVID death. What I read, the CDC only considers the death certificate cited cause of death.

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State officials also compare death certificates to disease surveillance data, to identify those who had Covid-19 but died of an unrelated cause, like a gunshot wound. Washington has removed such deaths.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...eath-toll.html

I know for a fact from a leadership position at a hospital, if die from anything and they have covid antibodies, not even symptoms, it’s goes on the Covid count. Its dishonest, but there is financial incentive behind it from that same person.

[SunnySide]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

I know for a fact from a leadership position at a hospital, if die from anything and they have covid antibodies, not even symptoms, it’s goes on the Covid count. Its dishonest, but there is financial incentive behind it from that same person.

From everything I read, under that circumstance it may go on the provisional count but then be excluded after review and not counted towards CDC official tally.

If someone dies from a stabbing but tests positive post mortem ... it absolutely is not counted towards the CDC official count.

You could argue the gray area of first line cause of death "heart failure"
second line "due to COVID"

^^ that would be counted as covid related bc the person with the pre-existing condition would not have died but for the COVID aggravating a pre-existing condition.

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Are we seriously arguing that the CDC and all the other medical experts saying there are 120k covid deaths are wrong?

or that the mortality rate is the same as the flu?

or masks dont help?

or the stay at home didnt help?

Im gonna take a break ... i find myself posting/refuting to much on here

if you die in a car accident, it is absolutely not counted in CDC's official tally of covid deaths. i need to walk away

[SolidSnake84]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

I know for a fact from a leadership position at a hospital, if die from anything and they have covid antibodies, not even symptoms, it’s goes on the Covid count. Its dishonest, but there is financial incentive behind it from that same person.

This is also 100% true. Many people have already came out and stated this.

[Number44]

Originally Posted by rocnrik

In 2018 the regular flu killed 1800 Virginia citizens.. the COVID virus death toll in Virginia us below 1600 .. granted that’s not a full year on the COVID stat but this virus is not apocalyptic as the media reports ...

That seems very high to me. Where did you get this figure from?

[OnceWeWereKings]

And I was one of the people that was very very worried early on. I was scared to death for my gf (we are both considered essential businesses so we continued to work around enough people to be concerned about) and she has a heart condition that scared the ever loving shit out of me if she got it. So I was one of the overly cautious people. But it seems as more research is done, it's not as transferable as they originally assumed. Maybe
But honestly...who knows. I'm not an epidemiologist

[MTK]

Hall of Fame Game canceled

[BaltimoreSkins]

Considering we were told mini camps would likely start on June 15th, that date has come and gone and crickets from the NFL about when they actually will. I am doubtful it will start on time.

[irish]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

Considering we were told mini camps would likely start on June 15th, that date has come and gone and crickets from the NFL about when they actually will. I am doubtful it will start on time.

I think the NFL is waiting to see how things go with MLB, NHL, NBA before they make a decision.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

Considering we were told mini camps would likely start on June 15th, that date has come and gone and crickets from the NFL about when they actually will. I am doubtful it will start on time.

I'm pretty sure they decided a long time ago that they were not happening in June. I thought they had moved them to July.

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I'm pretty sure they decided a long time ago that they were not happening in June. I thought they had moved them to July.

Yeah looking at it again it looks on June 11th? they extended virtual through the end of June

[SolidSnake84]

Not sure if anyone else is reporting on it at this time, but it came across my twitter news feed last night that the NFL is expected to formally cancel the entire 2020 season at some point after July 4th.

I think from the moment that we officially went into the pandemic stage, the season was lost. 2021 i would think at this point is 50/50. Maybe this is the end of pro football / NFL for a while, who knows.

[BaltimoreSkins]

If so that just pushes the season down the road a bit.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

If so that just pushes the season down the road a bit.

With the current surge of the virus seeing a season happening is going down the tubes unless we get shit in order really quick

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by MTK

With the current surge of the virus seeing a season happening is going down the tubes unless we get shit in order really quick

My son was supposed to have tryouts for travel soccer this Friday and we decided we are going to forgo fall sports unless things improve. The reliance on "self" testing by the parent is enough for me to realize they aren't taking athlete health seriously and too many parents take U9 soccer far too seriously. There is zero reason a ref or paid health official can't be checking in these kids as they come to tryouts and games.