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Old 01-14-2006, 11:47 PM   #16
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If Rogers catches that pick it's a different ball game, at the time when it happened I just kept thinking that was a HUGE lost opportunity.
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Old 01-14-2006, 11:52 PM   #17
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If Rogers catches that pick it's a different ball game, at the time when it happened I just kept thinking that was a HUGE lost opportunity.
As the game wore on it occured to me how big that play was. I think they made the plays to win and we simply didn't. Any time they needed a big play the usually got it and we didn't most of the time. Game over.
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Old 01-14-2006, 11:54 PM   #18
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If Rogers catches that pick it's a different ball game, at the time when it happened I just kept thinking that was a HUGE lost opportunity.
That was the non-play of the game. Rogers gets TWO hands on the ball and drops it. 10-0 completely takes the crowd out of the game, but instead, the Seahawks drive for a TD after Rogers missed his chance. I noticed Greg Williams mentioned Rogers by name when discussing missed opportunities. A part of me wishes he wouldn't call out the Rookie - Rogers knows he blew a golden opportunity, and will hopefully concentrate that much harder next time he has a similar chance to take one to the house.
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Old 01-15-2006, 12:01 AM   #19
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Yeah, I was really not THAT impressed with Hasselbeck. We were not bringing that much pressure, and what he DID do well was wait for downfield protection to break down, then ad-lib it and pick up some decent yardage.

BUT, he made a LOT of mistakes for a quarterback who supposedly doesn't make mistakes. Remember that series when he hurled the ball into the turf, then ran back 10 yards and chucked up a prayer? That was about the dumbest thing I've seen a playoff QB do since Mark Rypien tried to pass the ball behind his back to avoid a sack.

Then there was the Rogers INT TD that should've been, but wasn't. And the tipped passes. And the almost pick to Taylor that was saved by Joey Vicious living up to his name.

Bottom line, I think Hasselbeck has thrived because defenses had to stop Alexander and that opened things up A LOT. But I've never bought into this lore that he's a Joe Montana stuck in the shadow of a Walter Payton.

I think Carolina eats him for breakfast next week.
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Old 01-15-2006, 12:08 AM   #20
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I think Carolina eats him for breakfast next week.
Ding ding ding! I think we showed if you hit these guys they get rattled. Alexander is plain soft and did nothing to disprove it. When everyone in the league thinks you're soft then you're soft. No matter how much you and you're team say you're not. DJ impressed me and he was the only one. Some of their young D guys are decent.
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Old 01-15-2006, 12:14 AM   #21
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Their D was faster than we expected. But they f*cking A should have been, they've been resting for two weeks.

The whole team looked really flabby, though... a lot of guys going down with injuries and I'm thinking, "WTF? We're the ones that have been getting the sh*t kicked out of us for the last 6 weeks... why are YOU guys whining about pain?"

DJax has always been a "good" receiver and never a game-breaker. But I have to give him credit -- that shot he took from Sean Taylor looked like the kind of hit that knocks a man's heart right out of his chest. And he got right back up.

Of course, he probably didn't know which continent he was on, but still...
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Old 01-15-2006, 12:15 AM   #22
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Their D was faster than we expected. But they f*cking A should have been, they've been resting for two weeks.

The whole team looked really flabby, though... a lot of guys going down with injuries and I'm thinking, "WTF? We're the ones that have been getting the sh*t kicked out of us for the last 6 weeks... why are YOU guys whining about pain?"

DJax has always been a "good" receiver and never a game-breaker. But I have to give him credit -- that shot he took from Sean Taylor looked like the kind of hit that knocks a man's heart right out of his chest. And he got right back up.

Of course, he probably didn't know which continent he was on, but still...
They did look soft and I say they loose to CAR next weekend!
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Yeah, I was really not THAT impressed with Hasselbeck. We were not bringing that much pressure, and what he DID do well was wait for downfield protection to break down, then ad-lib it and pick up some decent yardage.
When the Seahawks didn't miss a beat with Alexander out, Hasselbeck really got on track with the play action. It didn't help our situation when we couldn't get pressure on him. Got to hand it to Seattle, they've assembled quite an offensive line.

And to think Steve Hutchinson was taken one spot before we selected Rod Gardner. Ugh.
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Old 01-15-2006, 12:32 AM   #24
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It didn't help our situation when we couldn't get pressure on him. Got to hand it to Seattle, they've assembled quite an offensive line.

And to think Steve Hutchinson was taken one spot before we selected Rod Gardner. Ugh.
It didnt seem like we were really sending many people on pressure at all, really. The few times we brought the house he ended up throwing it away. Other than a few decent scrambles thanks to us dropping too many guys back into coverage, he didn't surprise me one bit.

The stats and the game I watched just didn't show me a whole lot from that guy other than the opening drive. I've always thought he was overrated and today didn't change my mind in any respect.
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It didnt seem like we were really sending many people on pressure at all, really. The few times we brought the house he ended up throwing it away. Other than a few decent scrambles thanks to us dropping too many guys back into coverage, he didn't surprise me one bit.

The stats and the game I watched just didn't show me a whole lot from that guy other than the opening drive. I've always thought he was overrated and today didn't change my mind in any respect.
On the Seahawks drive that ended with a field goal that made it 20-10, Hasselbeck noticed an all-out blitz, and brilliantly audibled for a sweep to Mack Strong for a 32-yard gain. That sealed the deal.

Hasselbeck is no superstar. But he's in the right system with one hell of an offensive line. Sometimes, that's all you need.

You're right about the pressure. Williams rarely blitzed today, I think that was due mainly to a strong running game even without Shaun Alexander. The Skins D was kept off-balance for the most part.
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On the Seahawks drive that ended with a field goal that made it 20-10, Hasselbeck noticed an all-out blitz, and brilliantly audibled for a sweep to Mack Strong for a 32-yard gain. That sealed the deal.

Hasselbeck is no superstar. But he's in the right system with one hell of an offensive line. Sometimes, that's all you need.

You're right about the pressure. Williams rarely blitzed today, I think that was due mainly to a strong running game even without Shaun Alexander. The Skins D was kept off-balance for the most part.

That Mack Strong run was a knife in the heart. The entire team and viewing audience seemed like they thought he got stopped behind the line -- even the cameraman was caught looking. I dont know if it was a bad tackle or Strong just stuttered before hitting the hole, but I threw some shit at the TV after that one.
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Old 01-15-2006, 01:14 AM   #27
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Re: Turnovers

add it up carlos thats 7pts.john hall missed field goal 3 pts.and santana,s drop in the end zone thats 7 pts.17 total pts right there that would have been huge and the outcome probably would have been different.

we won the turnover battle just couldn,t cash in on them.
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