Will Saunders Affect Our QB Situation?

Beemnseven · 01-20-2006, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by 70Chip

Green has the intangible ability to understand how a play is developing and make the right decision. Montana and Aikman were two of the best you will ever have seen at this. Also I would add Joe Namath and Tom Brady.

It's interesting that you would add Joe Namath to that mix. I've heard from several people that Namath was WAY overrated -- famous and memorable only because of his "guarantee" that his Jets would beat the heavily favored Colts in the Super Bowl. The coaches were reportedly so nervous about Namath that they refused to allow him to throw the ball at all in the fourth quarter of that game while the Jets held the lead.

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Originally Posted by 70Chip

Mark Brunell seems to be able to see about half of the field - usually the left side ... What he can't do well is look off an intermediate receiver on his left and find an intermediate receiver on his right, or vice versa.

Exactly. Remember when he tried to throw a pass across the field against Tampa Bay in the Wild Card? The result was disasterous. Without a doubt, even when Brunell and the offense was peaking, it was either Moss or Cooley that enabled the Skins to move the ball through the air, or it just wasn't going to happen. Now, the question remains, was that due to ineptitude from the #2, and #3 wide receivers, one of the flaws of Brunell, or both?

jdlea · 01-19-2006, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by TAFKAS

I just think it's best for all parties if they part ways (Ramsey and the Redskins)

That's the same way I feel. I don't think Ramsey really got a fair shake here except for one year under Spurrier when he got knocked out after 10 games. Even then people wanted him replaced because Tim Hasselbeck came in and played (I say played cause I thought he sucked). I think the best thing for him is a fresh start in a spot where he can go and get some starts.

memphisskin · 01-19-2006, 02:21 PM

I like the Ramsey/Green comparison if only because when Green was in DC he couldn't get out of the way of the rush either. I think the most important aspect Saunders will bring is playcalling, something that Gibbs has struggled with since his return. This is a great move, I expect to see a lot more of

and less of

on offense now.

redsk1 · 01-19-2006, 02:13 PM

It's hard to say. Trent Green has the "it" factor. He just knows how to make plays. He's not very fast, doesn't have a big arm, and doesn't look very athletic. He is very accurate, patient, and elusive.
I would have to think he is going to have his input, but Gibbs is still going to be making the final decisions and that means Brunell. Campbell is still an unknown.

drew54 · 01-19-2006, 02:22 PM

I really hope we go Campbell all the way now.

Bring him up in the Rothelisberger way, only throw deep a few times a game, and keep it simple.

Plus his year on the bench will help him with the transition into the new scheme.

HAIL SKINS!!

chuckmcco · 01-19-2006, 02:24 PM

If Mark Brunell is our starting QB next season i will not watch the games. I refuse to watch an offense that has to call certain plays because our QB has a diminished skill. Until Jason Campbell is named our starter i am boycotting.

JoeRedskin · 01-19-2006, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by chuckmcco

If Mark Brunell is our starting QB next season i will not watch the games. I refuse to watch an offense that has to call certain plays because our QB has a diminished skill. Until Jason Campbell is named our starter i am boycotting.

Welcome aboard Chuck.

Let me be the first to introduce you to Offiss. Sounds like you two have some common ground. Although you may come to blows over the fact that Campbell not Ramsey is our next QB.

amorentz · 01-19-2006, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Welcome aboard Chuck.

Let me be the first to introduce you to Offiss. Sounds like you two have some common ground. Although you may come to blows over the fact that Campbell not Ramsey is our next QB.

LOL...yeah the two of them are gonna be best of friends!

SanFranSkinsFan · 01-19-2006, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by chuckmcco

If Mark Brunell is our starting QB next season i will not watch the games. I refuse to watch an offense that has to call certain plays because our QB has a diminished skill. Until Jason Campbell is named our starter i am boycotting.

Dude, you are way harsh. Campbell has 0 victories and 0 TDs. Brunell did falter at times, but he has a special chemistry with Moss and Cooley that can't be denied. We don't know how good Jason Campbell is going to be because the NFL is not the SEC and he also had Caddilac and Ronnie Brown (and Carlos) at Auburn. Gibbs might keep Ramsey if Saunders thinks that is the right thing to do. Also, he could open up the competition between Campbell and Brunell if Ramsey is traded....either way, Brunell just won 6 straight games for us before the Seattle loss and he was pretty poor then, but so was the whole offense. I'm sure you'll be watching no matter who is QB if you really love the skins.

12thMan · 01-19-2006, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by chuckmcco

If Mark Brunell is our starting QB next season i will not watch the games. I refuse to watch an offense that has to call certain plays because our QB has a diminished skill. Until Jason Campbell is named our starter i am boycotting.

First of all, welcome to the thread. Secondly, you can't be serious.

If you're not happy with 10-6 my friend, then you are certainly asking a lot of Jason Campbell at this point.

memphisskin · 01-19-2006, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by chuckmcco

If Mark Brunell is our starting QB next season i will not watch the games. I refuse to watch an offense that has to call certain plays because our QB has a diminished skill. Until Jason Campbell is named our starter i am boycotting.

I see your Brunell boycott and raise you with my own refusal to watch Skins games on Saturdays in October.

Fact is, Campbell has to play at some point and sitting him because we may hold SB aspirations is dumb. If he's our guy, and that's the company line thus far, then we've got to let him play. What are we waiting for? It's still football, last I checked.

hesscl34 · 01-20-2006, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by chuckmcco

If Mark Brunell is our starting QB next season i will not watch the games. I refuse to watch an offense that has to call certain plays because our QB has a diminished skill. Until Jason Campbell is named our starter i am boycotting.

Dude - CHILL OUT! We made it to the Divisoanl play off game WITH Brunell. No matter what you say Brunell was a leader. He has experience and he can run and scramble.

You are going to miss A LOT of good games in 06 with that attitude!

railcon56 · 01-25-2006, 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by chuckmcco

If Mark Brunell is our starting QB next season i will not watch the games. I refuse to watch an offense that has to call certain plays because our QB has a diminished skill. Until Jason Campbell is named our starter i am boycotting.

Welcome I was thinking the exact same thing i couldnt stomach watching that Brunell for another year.... But I want a Ramsey Campbell combo.......

Schneed10 · 01-19-2006, 02:36 PM

I think Gibbs' number one concern about Ramsey is his propensity to turn the ball over and take sacks. I don't think adding Saunders will change that. I think mainly, the addition of Saunders will hopefully improve the usage of the offensive line's talents. He was amazing at using those guys effectively, creating schemes to take advantage of what they did well. If he can do that here, I think it will help Campbell's development when he eventually does get playing time.

I don't think Saunders is any great QB guru, but I think he'll scheme very well. I can see both Campbell and Brunell having increased chances for success just because of the schemes. So I don't think it will change things very much regarding who will be the starting QB. But I think it will change how effective our entire offense is.

12thMan · 01-19-2006, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Schneed10

I think Gibbs' number one concern about Ramsey is his propensity to turn the ball over and take sacks. I don't think adding Saunders will change that. I think mainly, the addition of Saunders will hopefully improve the usage of the offensive line's talents. He was amazing at using those guys effectively, creating schemes to take advantage of what they did well. If he can do that here, I think it will help Campbell's development when he eventually does get playing time.

I don't think Saunders is any great QB guru, but I think he'll scheme very well. I can see both Campbell and Brunell having increased chances for success just because of the schemes. So I don't think it will change things very much regarding who will be the starting QB. But I think it will change how effective our entire offense is.

You hit it! Saunders will not overhaul this offense, but rather further expand Gibbs' philosophy. That's why they chose him.

He'll add some new wrinkles here and there and assist with the play calling. But no one player is going to be transformed by this move alone.

01-19-2006, 02:13 PM	#4
redsk1 The Starter Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,351	Re: Will Saunders Effect Our Qb Situation? It's hard to say. Trent Green has the "it" factor. He just knows how to make plays. He's not very fast, doesn't have a big arm, and doesn't look very athletic. He is very accurate, patient, and elusive. I would have to think he is going to have his input, but Gibbs is still going to be making the final decisions and that means Brunell. Campbell is still an unknown.

01-19-2006, 02:22 PM	#5
drew54 The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: IOWA Age: 42 Posts: 1,324	Re: Will Saunders Effect Our Qb Situation? I really hope we go Campbell all the way now. Bring him up in the Rothelisberger way, only throw deep a few times a game, and keep it simple. Plus his year on the bench will help him with the transition into the new scheme. HAIL SKINS!! __________________ No pressure, no diamonds.

01-19-2006, 02:24 PM	#6
chuckmcco Camp Scrub Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 5	Re: Will Saunders Effect Our Qb Situation? If Mark Brunell is our starting QB next season i will not watch the games. I refuse to watch an offense that has to call certain plays because our QB has a diminished skill. Until Jason Campbell is named our starter i am boycotting.

01-19-2006, 02:36 PM	#14
Schneed10 A Dude Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Newtown Square, PA Age: 46 Posts: 12,458	Re: Will Saunders Effect Our Qb Situation? I think Gibbs' number one concern about Ramsey is his propensity to turn the ball over and take sacks. I don't think adding Saunders will change that. I think mainly, the addition of Saunders will hopefully improve the usage of the offensive line's talents. He was amazing at using those guys effectively, creating schemes to take advantage of what they did well. If he can do that here, I think it will help Campbell's development when he eventually does get playing time. I don't think Saunders is any great QB guru, but I think he'll scheme very well. I can see both Campbell and Brunell having increased chances for success just because of the schemes. So I don't think it will change things very much regarding who will be the starting QB. But I think it will change how effective our entire offense is.

01-19-2006, 02:21 PM	#3
memphisskin Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Nashville, TN Age: 53 Posts: 960	Re: Will Saunders Effect Our Qb Situation? I like the Ramsey/Green comparison if only because when Green was in DC he couldn't get out of the way of the rush either. I think the most important aspect Saunders will bring is playcalling, something that Gibbs has struggled with since his return. This is a great move, I expect to see a lot more of and less of on offense now.

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