Red-Skins Nation?

[celts32]

[QUOTE=12thMan]I hate to start a thread talking about another sports team. But when it comes to fan bases, I think it's possible that Red Sox Nation is arguably the most fervent group of fans in existence. After all they waited, what, 86 years before they had some hardware to show for anything.
If that's not longsuffering then I don't know what is!QUOTE]

The Sox have great fans no doubt, but I hate all that 86 year nonsense like they were the only suffering fans in the world! Unless you are a 90+ year old Redsox fan then you are no different then the rest of the suffering fans. And how many Redsox fans have been alive to suffer through even half those 86 years...not that many...certanily not a "nation" worth of them. Some teams have never won. I am a 35 year old skins fan so I have no complaints there, but my second favorite sports team is the Philly Flyers who have not won since 1975 when I was 4 years old. So I have never seen them win the Stanley Cup in my life...so why would a 35 year old Red Sox fan be any more miserable then a 35 year old Flyers fan or any other fan who has never seen their team win? That just agravates me how Redsox And Cubs fans think they have the market cornered on misery. It's nonsense...

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by celts32

The Sox have great fans no doubt, but I hate all that 86 year nonsense like they were the only suffering fans in the world! Unless you are a 90+ year old Redsox fan then you are no different then the rest of the suffering fans. And how many Redsox fans have been alive to suffer through even half those 86 years...not that many...certanily not a "nation" worth of them. Some teams have never won. I am a 35 year old skins fan so I have no complaints there, but my second favorite sports team is the Philly Flyers who have not won since 1975 when I was 4 years old. So I have never seen them win the Stanley Cup in my life...so why would a 35 year old Red Sox fan be any more miserable then a 35 year old Flyers fan or any other fan who has never seen their team win? That just agravates me how Redsox And Cubs fans think they have the market cornered on misery. It's nonsense...

Exactly what I'm saying. I just don't get all the "oh we've suffered for 86 years" crap. Plus I hate how they feel they're owed something. I had two roommates in college who were die hard Sox and it's like they never "lost" they were always "robbed"

Sorry to all Sox fans who might be here, it's nothing personal. I just hate your team

[PSUSkinsFan21]

The Sox have great fans no doubt, but I hate all that 86 year nonsense like they were the only suffering fans in the world! Unless you are a 90+ year old Redsox fan then you are no different then the rest of the suffering fans. And how many Redsox fans have been alive to suffer through even half those 86 years...not that many...certanily not a "nation" worth of them. Some teams have never won. I am a 35 year old skins fan so I have no complaints there, but my second favorite sports team is the Philly Flyers who have not won since 1975 when I was 4 years old. So I have never seen them win the Stanley Cup in my life...so why would a 35 year old Red Sox fan be any more miserable then a 35 year old Flyers fan or any other fan who has never seen their team win? That just agravates me how Redsox And Cubs fans think they have the market cornered on misery. It's nonsense...

Excellent point. And as a Flyers fan, it's not like you haven't lived through an unbelievable number of teams that all looked poised to do it. They may be the most consistently good/great franchise to have not won a Championship (in any major sport) in over 30 years.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Well, I'm talking about people like us who spend day in and day out discussing the team. Sure baseball has those, but if I was naming TOP FANS of any sport, I'd say Skins and Cowboys fans.

[PSUSkinsFan21]

I wonder what Red Sox and Yankees fans who don't care about football would say?

[TheMalcolmConnection]

There's the select group of crazy fans, but the majority just blindly pledge their allegiance. Or at least it seems like that where I live. I try to talk baseball with both sets of fans and they really don't know what's going on. They're like, "Well, I was born here so I'm a huge fan!"

[PSUSkinsFan21]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

There's the select group of crazy fans, but the majority just blindly pledge their allegiance. Or at least it seems like that where I live. I try to talk baseball with both sets of fans and they really don't know what's going on. They're like, "Well, I was born here so I'm a huge fan!"

Yah, I think most baseball fans are like that, but then again, most football fans are too. Outside of forums like these, most football "fans" don't know as much about their team as I do. At the lunch table the other day I had to educate about 4 Eagles fans as to who their top 5 receivers are. This past weekend, cousins of ours were visiting who grew up in and live in the D.C. area and are "big" skins fans. In talking with them, however, it became very obvious that they were fans, but didn't know half as much about the Skins as I would have assumed every Skins fan knows. And they go to almost every game.

On the flip side, my buddy is a huge Red Sox fan. He not only knows more about the Red Sox than anyone else I know, but he also knows more about baseball and baseball history than anyone else I've ever met.

Overall though, I do believe football fans in general are more passionate. Just look at those freaks at the Raiders games. When's the last time anybody ever got geeked up like that for a baseball game?

[ArtMonkDrillz]

Originally Posted by PSUSkinsFan21

Overall though, I do believe football fans in general are more passionate. Just look at those freaks at the Raiders games. When's the last time anybody ever got geeked up like that for a baseball game?

That could have to do with the fact that there are 160 baseball games a year adn only 16 football games. It's much easier to get all dressed up and whatnot a few weeks out of the year than it is to do it 80 times a summer.

You ever see one of those guys at a baseball game furiously keeping score/stats in their own notebook? That's pretty hardcore if you think about it.

[724Skinsfan]

Originally Posted by ArtMonkDrillz

That could have to do with the fact that there are 160 baseball games a year adn only 16 football games. It's much easier to get all dressed up and whatnot a few weeks out of the year than it is to do it 80 times a summer.

You ever see one of those guys at a baseball game furiously keeping score/stats in their own notebook? That's pretty hardcore if you think about it.

Gal dangit, AMD! you're fast!

[PSUSkinsFan21]

Originally Posted by ArtMonkDrillz

That could have to do with the fact that there are 160 baseball games a year adn only 16 football games. It's much easier to get all dressed up and whatnot a few weeks out of the year than it is to do it 80 times a summer.

You ever see one of those guys at a baseball game furiously keeping score/stats in their own notebook? That's pretty hardcore if you think about it.

That's a really good point. Although even during playoff baseball, you just don't see that absolutely rabidness in the fans eyes that you see on any given week in the NFL. I guess it's just hard to compare. You can't really behave at a baseball game the way you behave at a football game. If I went to a Mets game and started yelling as loud and jumping up and down as much as I do at PSU games, people would 1. Think I was retarded, or 2. Call security to have me escorted out of the stadium (or maybe both).

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by PSUSkinsFan21

That's a really good point. Although even during playoff baseball, you just don't see that absolutely rabidness in the fans eyes that you see on any given week in the NFL. I guess it's just hard to compare. You can't really behave at a baseball game the way you behave at a football game. If I went to a Mets game and started yelling as loud and jumping up and down as much as I do at PSU games, people would 1. Think I was retarded, or 2. Call security to have me escorted out of the stadium (or maybe both).

I think, in part, some of the intensity is because the game itself is a contact sport - played in the trenches. For the most part I think the fans, unconciously, are matching the intensity level and pace of the game.

[724Skinsfan]

Originally Posted by PSUSkinsFan21

That's a really good point. Although even during playoff baseball, you just don't see that absolutely rabidness in the fans eyes that you see on any given week in the NFL. I guess it's just hard to compare. You can't really behave at a baseball game the way you behave at a football game. If I went to a Mets game and started yelling as loud and jumping up and down as much as I do at PSU games, people would 1. Think I was retarded, or 2. Call security to have me escorted out of the stadium (or maybe both).

The only exception to lack of rabid, obnoxious fans at a baseball game would be the Cubs bleacher section.

[724Skinsfan]

Right, but it's hard to get pumped up 81 times a year versus only 8 times.

[Hail2theskins]

you know whats the best thing about bein a skins fan right now though, after years of defending my team through 6-10 seasons and gibbs naysers after the first season i can finally tell those cowboys fans i know to stick it

[12thMan]

This actually brings up something interesting that Condi Rice said not too long ago, she felt that football not baseball is America's greatest pastime.