Name controversy

Skin Patrol · 08-21-2006, 01:26 AM

Sigh, having trouble posting (I've had 2 posts disappear). Anyways:

"I met native americans who found the term "redskins" comparable to the "N" word. They felt it demonized and dehumanized there race. I don't feel the redskins as an organization at all perpetuate this belief but I sympathize with these folks."

First off, I don't believe you.

Second, over 90% of Native Americans are unoffended by the name of our team (Source: 'Redskins' mascot acceptable, poll says - NFC East - MSNBC.com)

This new lawsuit is the result of some overeager attorneys tricking a bunch of young Native Americans into a losing lawsuit. It failed in the past because the statute of limitations had passed years ago on this issue. If it was so offensive there should've been more than two lawsuits between 197x and 2006.

This is a non-issue.

STPainmaker · 08-21-2006, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Skin Patrol

Sigh, having trouble posting (I've had 2 posts disappear). Anyways:

"I met native americans who found the term "redskins" comparable to the "N" word. They felt it demonized and dehumanized there race. I don't feel the redskins as an organization at all perpetuate this belief but I sympathize with these folks."

First off, I don't believe you.

Second, over 90% of Native Americans are unoffended by the name of our team (Source: 'Redskins' mascot acceptable, poll says - NFC East - MSNBC.com)

This new lawsuit is the result of some overeager attorneys tricking a bunch of young Native Americans into a losing lawsuit. It failed in the past because the statute of limitations had passed years ago on this issue. If it was so offensive there should've been more than two lawsuits between 197x and 2006.

This is a non-issue.

The fact that you don't believe me doesn't change the fact I worked with multiple native americans who found the term redskin offensive or at least somewhat discomforting. I don't know whats wrong or right but to say you don't believe what I'm saying is ill conceived and meritless. I didn't say the entire native american population voted 100% this was offensive I said in my personal experience there was at least several native americans who did not like the term redskin.

I recommend you think your post through because to impart disbelief so as to not face the issue is just skirting the issue. No group in the history of our nation has been screwed as bad as these people so to call this a non-issue and say this isn't offensive to at least some people doesn't work.

RedskinPete · 08-21-2006, 01:35 AM

This so old...the PC group can kis my a@%!!!! We will always be the REDSKINS!!!! But if we have to change the whiteskins would not make me made!!!!!

jrocx69 · 08-21-2006, 03:39 AM

if change happened, i still wouldnt let them win, it will be redskins for life.. and i would start making my own shit and keep the rest of my old stuff. "Warriors"??? how gay. Braves would be better, thats what they used to be in the 30's anyway. but i would still call them the redskins no matter the outcome period.

dmek25 · 08-21-2006, 06:57 AM

do we have to have this discussion every season? the name will remain the same

backrow · 08-21-2006, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by dmek25

do we have to have this discussion every season? the name will remain the same

The reason we have it every year is Politics. You see the signs. Literally along the highway. Vote for your favorite sheriff, school board, Representative, Senator, etc.

So, in getting with the Political time of the year, we already know LDS (LilDannySnyder for the Uninitiated!) bought and owns the rights to "Warriors". So, he has a back up plan.

I don't think it happens, but you never know.

FRPLG · 08-21-2006, 08:39 AM

To me, if the name wasn't offensive when it became illegal then it can't just become offensive when a very small minority decide so. It is called common sense and it is the only reason I am sure that someday we will lose this name. Our system has none of it.

Monkeydad · 08-21-2006, 08:50 AM

First of all, it won't happen.

If it comes close, we can tell the whiny little liberals who don't even WATCH football, "ok, we'll compromise...we'll give up the name 'Redskins' in favor of the 'Pigskinheads'."

I'm sure they'll let us keep the name then.

I'm still mad that the Bullets gave in and picked a horrible name like the "Wizards". I still support the team, but to me they'll always be the Bullets. It's NOT the team's fault that so many people were firing shots outside the White House (and trying to fly small plane and helicoptors into it) when Clinton was working it there, I mean working in there.

DrFaust · 08-21-2006, 10:04 AM

As another poster mentioned, I think "skins" would work just fine.

cpayne5 · 08-21-2006, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by DrFaust

As another poster mentioned, I think "skins" would work just fine.

I'm sorry, but I have skin, so it offends me.

Sammy Baugh Fan · 08-21-2006, 10:21 AM

The Hogs could be the SPUDS!

firstdown · 08-21-2006, 11:30 AM

Most of the names suggested would have the same problem> Warriors and Braves are indian terms and would offend the small % that complains. I saw a show where this lady tried to set up a ralley on a Sunday to protest the Skins name. She put alot of hard work into it and she was the only person who showed up.

Skinsfanatic · 08-21-2006, 12:02 PM

TTFKA Redskins

Skinsfanatic · 08-21-2006, 12:13 PM

What about all of the animal names? Football is a violent sport, and do we really want to promote violence against animals?

HTTR · 08-21-2006, 12:33 PM

On a recent trip through native american lands in the southwest, I counted nfl logos worn by native americans. Here's the tally:

Redskins 5
Cowboys 1
Other 0

'Nuff said.

08-21-2006, 01:26 AM	#1
Skin Patrol Camp Scrub Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 13	Re: Name controversy Sigh, having trouble posting (I've had 2 posts disappear). Anyways: "I met native americans who found the term "redskins" comparable to the "N" word. They felt it demonized and dehumanized there race. I don't feel the redskins as an organization at all perpetuate this belief but I sympathize with these folks." First off, I don't believe you. Second, over 90% of Native Americans are unoffended by the name of our team (Source: 'Redskins' mascot acceptable, poll says - NFC East - MSNBC.com) This new lawsuit is the result of some overeager attorneys tricking a bunch of young Native Americans into a losing lawsuit. It failed in the past because the statute of limitations had passed years ago on this issue. If it was so offensive there should've been more than two lawsuits between 197x and 2006. This is a non-issue.

08-21-2006, 01:35 AM	#3
RedskinPete The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Camino,Ca Posts: 1,174	Re: Name controversy This so old...the PC group can kis my a@%!!!! We will always be the REDSKINS!!!! But if we have to change the whiteskins would not make me made!!!!!

08-21-2006, 03:39 AM	#4
jrocx69 Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Dallas Age: 44 Posts: 461	Re: Name controversy if change happened, i still wouldnt let them win, it will be redskins for life.. and i would start making my own shit and keep the rest of my old stuff. "Warriors"??? how gay. Braves would be better, thats what they used to be in the 30's anyway. but i would still call them the redskins no matter the outcome period.

08-21-2006, 06:57 AM	#5
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 63 Posts: 10,672	Re: Name controversy do we have to have this discussion every season? the name will remain the same __________________ "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." courtesy of 53fan

08-21-2006, 08:39 AM	#7
FRPLG MVP Join Date: May 2004 Age: 46 Posts: 10,164	Re: Name controversy To me, if the name wasn't offensive when it became illegal then it can't just become offensive when a very small minority decide so. It is called common sense and it is the only reason I am sure that someday we will lose this name. Our system has none of it.

08-21-2006, 08:50 AM	#8
Monkeydad Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: PA Age: 46 Posts: 17,460	Re: Name controversy First of all, it won't happen. If it comes close, we can tell the whiny little liberals who don't even WATCH football, "ok, we'll compromise...we'll give up the name 'Redskins' in favor of the 'Pigskinheads'." I'm sure they'll let us keep the name then. I'm still mad that the Bullets gave in and picked a horrible name like the "Wizards". I still support the team, but to me they'll always be the Bullets. It's NOT the team's fault that so many people were firing shots outside the White House (and trying to fly small plane and helicoptors into it) when Clinton was working it there, I mean working in there.

08-21-2006, 10:04 AM	#9
DrFaust Camp Scrub Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Your basement Posts: 22	Re: Name controversy As another poster mentioned, I think "skins" would work just fine.

08-21-2006, 10:21 AM	#11
Sammy Baugh Fan Playmaker Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Northern Virginia, Woodbridge Age: 63 Posts: 2,507	Re: Name controversy The Hogs could be the SPUDS! __________________ Check out Mike Hedrick - The Next Food Network Star. Please Click and give me a Thumbs Up and Positive Comment. Thanks

08-21-2006, 11:30 AM	#12
firstdown Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: chesapeake, va Age: 61 Posts: 15,817	Re: Name controversy Most of the names suggested would have the same problem> Warriors and Braves are indian terms and would offend the small % that complains. I saw a show where this lady tried to set up a ralley on a Sunday to protest the Skins name. She put alot of hard work into it and she was the only person who showed up.

08-21-2006, 12:02 PM	#13
Skinsfanatic The Starter Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 2,386	Re: Name controversy TTFKA Redskins

08-21-2006, 12:13 PM	#14
Skinsfanatic The Starter Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 2,386	Re: Name controversy What about all of the animal names? Football is a violent sport, and do we really want to promote violence against animals?

08-21-2006, 12:33 PM	#15
HTTR Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 649	Re: Name controversy On a recent trip through native american lands in the southwest, I counted nfl logos worn by native americans. Here's the tally: Redskins 5 Cowboys 1 Other 0 'Nuff said.

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