Why I feel there is reason for concern:

That Guy · 08-22-2006, 08:11 PM

we looked awful last preaseason too.

our defensive depth is new andd the guys before they came sucked. brunell may not be great, but he's what we've got. campbell is accurate, but a bit too willing to test double coverage still.

I'd be much more concerned with our injuries (springs, portis, daniels, griffin, etc etc) then the games right now.

wolfeskins · 08-22-2006, 08:32 PM

it's too hard to judge a team in the pre season, it's like people playing paintball without the paintballs.:confused:

That Guy · 08-22-2006, 08:23 PM

you are right though in that the competition does look good, but beating up on the saints and chiefs doesn't really impress me. philly has always had the best depth in the league.

4mrusmc · 08-22-2006, 08:39 PM

My thing is you don't come out in your first home preseason game playing like a bunch of turds. With all of this off season hype and everything, you would just expect more in the way of polished execution from our strarters. Also, I'm very disapointed in the play of our reserves and back-ups.

PSUSkinsFan21 · 08-22-2006, 09:22 PM

Wow! Daseal with a glass is half empty post??? This must be a first.

Seriously though, I have to agree with most of what Daseal has to say. Color me a little concerned. I hear what some of you all are saying about gameplanning and not showing your hand and all that.....but I gotta say, the Eagles, Giants and Cowboys haven't looked good because they're trying all kinds of trick plays and showing us their whole gameplan. They are going out there and simply executing, and they are executing well. Simple, straightfoward football. That's all they're doing, and they're doing it very effectively.

Maybe we can just flip a swith on Sept. 11th and out of nowhere our offense will be explosive. I hope that's the case, but I just don't see any reason to not play better than we have. I don't see any reason for not running, passing and catching the football well. I'm not talking about showing everything we've got, but how about we just show that we can string a few first downs together? How about turning it on for a drive, just one, with the first team and then put in the second stingers.....but let's prove it to ourself that this team is going to be able to move the ball come regular season.

I don't think the sky is falling, but the team certainly hasn't given us much reason to talk about the glass being half full so far.

SmootSmack · 08-22-2006, 09:40 PM

Some valid concerns. But at the same time we shouldn't be overly confident if we were 2-0 at this point. But let's look at some of the positives

--The Offensive Line--As you've said Daseal the pass protection has been very impressive. The starters are giving the QB plenty of time in the pocket. I understand that our depth isn't anything to write home about. But realistically, look around the league and how many teams have great depth on the O-Line? It's just not that realistic these days. Sure, if all five starters on the O-line go down we're screwed but that's not so realistic either.

--Mike Sellers--I had wondered if he was just a flash in the pan sensation last year. But he actually might be better now than he was when last season ended. He's been a pleasant surprise

--The Defense--I have no basis for this, but I think Shawn Springs will be back for the Texans game on Sept. 24 (at the latest). When he returns the defensive will be absolutely dominant, until then they'll just have to settle for spectacular. I have zero concerns about our defense. Sure they'll give up an occasional big play, but what defense won't? More often than not though, they'll be the ones making the big stop

--The Quarterbacks--I can't change how you feel about Brunell, Daseal. But you had concerns about him last year too and we did get to the playoffs with him at QB. I understand that his production went down toward the end, but a lot of that (beyond injury) was by choice (to go with Portis) and by need (WRs hurt). But what's really encouraging is that people are saying the Redskins would probably not miss a beat with Campbell in there. He has been very impressive and it's good to know that our season wouldn't end with him in at QB. At least I don't think it would.

I still say 12-4, 13-3 this year.

That Guy · 08-23-2006, 01:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TAFKAS

--Mike Sellers--I had wondered if he was just a flash in the pan sensation last year. But he actually might be better now than he was when last season ended. He's been a pleasant surprise

He's been NFL-ready since he was about 19. personal circumstances then and again with the browns sent him to the CFL for two stints, but neither was for lack of talent. the guy has always been quality on the field.

MTK · 08-22-2006, 09:49 PM

Found this on another board,

Quote:

Per Chris Cooley on the Riggins show

said laughingly (paraphrase)

Panic? over PRESEASON?... no the team is not panicing about anything so far about preseason. We haven't been gameplanning, or showing anything...

talked about the offense is really moving along in Saunders offense, in practice, they are doing things dirfferent (Vanilla) in preseason games

just want to see how players can do, without showing anything we can do

because they "DON'T COUNT!!!!!!!"

GoSkins! · 08-22-2006, 10:12 PM

I guess it is also important to remember that Gibbs has a way of getting the best out of everyone around him. He does it year after year after year. He did it here, in Nascar, and here again. He will do it with the players AND the coaches.

We all know that once the game planning is implemented that things should look better. I, for one, don't believe we have the very best talent in the NFL on our team. Very good, but not every guy is elite. Without game planning there are going to be one-on-one matchups that we are bound to lose just like there are some we are bound to win. The coaches need to establish who can win thier matchups. They need to know which rookies and free agents are going to step up. That is what this preseason is about.

It appears that the coaches are putting the team in very tough situations and forcing them to bump up thier level of play. Instead of typical game planning, it is like they are game planning to deflate a few egos.

davy · 08-22-2006, 09:59 PM

I'm firmly in the "It's only preseason" camp.

Didn't the Colts just lose their 8th straight preseason game?

No big deal.

superskins · 08-22-2006, 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davy

I'm firmly in the "It's only preseason" camp.

Didn't the Colts just lose their 8th straight preseason game?

No big deal.

yea but are they struggling to run there offense? i think not

MTK · 08-22-2006, 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by superskins

yea but are they struggling to run there offense? i think not

The Colts march up and down the field for a reason.

They've been in that system for how long now?

Plus they don't go basic, they come out guns blazing for a few series then shut it down.

superskins · 08-22-2006, 11:59 PM

[quote=Mattyk72;206895]The Colts march up and down the field for a reason.

They've been in that system for how long now?
quote]

my point exactly! we have a new offense which has me concerned

MTK · 08-23-2006, 12:06 AM

[quote=superskins;206915]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

The Colts march up and down the field for a reason.

They've been in that system for how long now?
quote]

my point exactly! we have a new offense which has me concerned

A new offense we haven't even seen yet.

Relax, we're going to explode against the Vikings, trust me.

dmek25 · 08-22-2006, 10:02 PM

as usual, matty being the voice of reason. or was that cooley?

08-22-2006, 08:11 PM	#1
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,620	Re: Why I feel there is reason for concern: we looked awful last preaseason too. our defensive depth is new andd the guys before they came sucked. brunell may not be great, but he's what we've got. campbell is accurate, but a bit too willing to test double coverage still. I'd be much more concerned with our injuries (springs, portis, daniels, griffin, etc etc) then the games right now.

08-22-2006, 08:32 PM	#2
wolfeskins The Starter Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: chesapeake,va. Posts: 2,160	Re: Why I feel there is reason for concern: it's too hard to judge a team in the pre season, it's like people playing paintball without the paintballs.:confused: __________________ Hail to Allen/Shanahan .... bring in some baby hogs and load up on diesel fuel !!! (budw38)

08-22-2006, 08:23 PM	#3
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,620	Re: Why I feel there is reason for concern: you are right though in that the competition does look good, but beating up on the saints and chiefs doesn't really impress me. philly has always had the best depth in the league.

08-22-2006, 08:39 PM	#4
4mrusmc Impact Rookie Join Date: Apr 2005 Age: 55 Posts: 559	Re: Why I feel there is reason for concern: My thing is you don't come out in your first home preseason game playing like a bunch of turds. With all of this off season hype and everything, you would just expect more in the way of polished execution from our strarters. Also, I'm very disapointed in the play of our reserves and back-ups.

08-22-2006, 09:22 PM	#5
PSUSkinsFan21 The Starter Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Philadelphia, PA Age: 48 Posts: 1,340	Re: Why I feel there is reason for concern: Wow! Daseal with a glass is half empty post??? This must be a first. Seriously though, I have to agree with most of what Daseal has to say. Color me a little concerned. I hear what some of you all are saying about gameplanning and not showing your hand and all that.....but I gotta say, the Eagles, Giants and Cowboys haven't looked good because they're trying all kinds of trick plays and showing us their whole gameplan. They are going out there and simply executing, and they are executing well. Simple, straightfoward football. That's all they're doing, and they're doing it very effectively. Maybe we can just flip a swith on Sept. 11th and out of nowhere our offense will be explosive. I hope that's the case, but I just don't see any reason to not play better than we have. I don't see any reason for not running, passing and catching the football well. I'm not talking about showing everything we've got, but how about we just show that we can string a few first downs together? How about turning it on for a drive, just one, with the first team and then put in the second stingers.....but let's prove it to ourself that this team is going to be able to move the ball come regular season. I don't think the sky is falling, but the team certainly hasn't given us much reason to talk about the glass being half full so far. __________________ "Hail to the Redskins!" and "Fight on State!"

08-22-2006, 09:40 PM	#6
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: Why I feel there is reason for concern: Some valid concerns. But at the same time we shouldn't be overly confident if we were 2-0 at this point. But let's look at some of the positives --The Offensive Line--As you've said Daseal the pass protection has been very impressive. The starters are giving the QB plenty of time in the pocket. I understand that our depth isn't anything to write home about. But realistically, look around the league and how many teams have great depth on the O-Line? It's just not that realistic these days. Sure, if all five starters on the O-line go down we're screwed but that's not so realistic either. --Mike Sellers--I had wondered if he was just a flash in the pan sensation last year. But he actually might be better now than he was when last season ended. He's been a pleasant surprise --The Defense--I have no basis for this, but I think Shawn Springs will be back for the Texans game on Sept. 24 (at the latest). When he returns the defensive will be absolutely dominant, until then they'll just have to settle for spectacular. I have zero concerns about our defense. Sure they'll give up an occasional big play, but what defense won't? More often than not though, they'll be the ones making the big stop --The Quarterbacks--I can't change how you feel about Brunell, Daseal. But you had concerns about him last year too and we did get to the playoffs with him at QB. I understand that his production went down toward the end, but a lot of that (beyond injury) was by choice (to go with Portis) and by need (WRs hurt). But what's really encouraging is that people are saying the Redskins would probably not miss a beat with Campbell in there. He has been very impressive and it's good to know that our season wouldn't end with him in at QB. At least I don't think it would. I still say 12-4, 13-3 this year. __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

08-22-2006, 10:12 PM	#9
GoSkins! The Starter Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Yorktown, Va Age: 56 Posts: 1,587	Re: Why I feel there is reason for concern: I guess it is also important to remember that Gibbs has a way of getting the best out of everyone around him. He does it year after year after year. He did it here, in Nascar, and here again. He will do it with the players AND the coaches. We all know that once the game planning is implemented that things should look better. I, for one, don't believe we have the very best talent in the NFL on our team. Very good, but not every guy is elite. Without game planning there are going to be one-on-one matchups that we are bound to lose just like there are some we are bound to win. The coaches need to establish who can win thier matchups. They need to know which rookies and free agents are going to step up. That is what this preseason is about. It appears that the coaches are putting the team in very tough situations and forcing them to bump up thier level of play. Instead of typical game planning, it is like they are game planning to deflate a few egos. __________________ Not everything that counts can be counted, and not everything that can be counted counts. A. Einstien

08-22-2006, 09:59 PM	#10
davy Impact Rookie Join Date: May 2004 Location: England Posts: 957	Re: Why I feel there is reason for concern: I'm firmly in the "It's only preseason" camp. Didn't the Colts just lose their 8th straight preseason game? No big deal. __________________ “Don't ask me what I think of you, I might not give the answer that you want me to.”

08-22-2006, 11:59 PM	#13
superskins Special Teams Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 218	Re: Why I feel there is reason for concern: [quote=Mattyk72;206895]The Colts march up and down the field for a reason. They've been in that system for how long now? quote] my point exactly! we have a new offense which has me concerned

08-22-2006, 10:02 PM	#15
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 63 Posts: 10,672	Re: Why I feel there is reason for concern: as usual, matty being the voice of reason. or was that cooley? __________________ "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." courtesy of 53fan

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