skins skin jags: Thoughts?

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by RobH4413

Besides that one catch Brandon Lloyd had a terrible game. I can really see what the 49er fans were talking about when they said he is afraid of contact, and good for only a highlight reel or two. He had two costly plays (penalty and fumble) that could have very well ended the game for us (if we lost, everyone would want his head). He needs to step it up big time.

"Besides that one catch"... Do you mean the huge one that helped them win the game?

"Step it up". Like make a huge 3rd down catch on a critical drive?

Unf-ingbelievable. I wish people would read their posts before hitting the button.

[itvnetop]

I was actually pretty impressed with the special teams lately as well. Rock on KO's and Randle-El on punts have been outstanding- there's been some superior blocking up field for these guys during runbacks and it's led to superb field position for the offense. Return coverage has been nothing short of solid, as well.

I'm also extremely interested in seeing the progress of our rookie DTs from here on out. Golston and Montgomery are quietly stepping up while Big Joe is out with injuries. They may have been some of the best mid round grabs of the entire draft.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by itvnetop

I was actually pretty impressed with the special teams lately as well. Rock on KO's and Randle-El on punts have been outstanding- there's been some superior blocking up field for these guys during runbacks and it's led to superb field position for the offense. Return coverage has been nothing short of solid, as well.

I'm also extremely interested in seeing the progress of our rookie DTs from here on out. Golston and Montgomery are quietly stepping up while Big Joe is out with injuries. They may have been some of the best mid round grabs of the entire draft.

Mid round? Try 6th and 7th. Great picks.

[EternalEnigma21]

Other observations are:

Our O-line looks like a stable of Measts! (I like that name better than dirtbags..)

Portis is a badass!

Moss is a badass!

I really like the fact that we are starting to become an exciting possesion team. Not only trick offensive plays, but who else got a little tingle when ARE flipped the ball over to ST on that punt return? I know nothing happened, but still, teams aren't going to know what the hell we're capable of all year, and thats exciting!

Our D-line looks better, and if we can secure a couple of guys in coverage, I think the D will be back on track.

We could take the Division next week if the Eagles lose tomorrow, and the Eagle's secondary is looking suspect, and Favre has a new rookie reciever that they don't have much film on... (keeping fingers crossed)

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by 70Chip

11. Opposing Defensive Coordinators are going to have a lot to chew on with this tape. Who can they concentrate on? The snowball grows....

This is perhaps the most important thing you mentioned. It is great that we have now shown people we can small ball and medium ball it. We need to find someone who will let us throw bombs all day and someone to let us rack up 300 yards rushing. Then no one will know what the hell to stop.

[railcon56]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

You say that because the play didn't work. I don't mind at all throwing a flea-flicker on the first play of the game, especially against a defense known to be aggressive.

Are you telling me somebody is complaining when we finally opened the game up? I was very excited to see that play it was great!!!!!! I wanna see more...!!!! I agree with Beem..

[saden1]

Originally Posted by MightyJoeGibbs

8. Lloyd----

Lloyd has the strength and build of a crack head but he will come around.

Good thing NY has a lotta crack to be purchased, look for Lloyd to emerge next Sunday.

OMG, that was the most hilarious thing I've heard/read in months. Bravo, bravo!

[RobH4413]

Originally Posted by Grim21Reaper

"Besides that one catch"... Do you mean the huge one that helped them win the game?

"Step it up". Like make a huge 3rd down catch on a critical drive?

Unf-ingbelievable. I wish people would read their posts before hitting the button.

You make me laugh.

If you think Lloyd doesn't need to step it up your crazy. His celebration penalty set up a the Jaguar drive leading to a field goal... and his fumble could have very well ended the game. Defending someone contributing -6 points on the day just doesn't make sense... it's "Unf-ingbelievable".

[EternalEnigma21]

Originally Posted by RobH4413

You make me laugh.

If you think Lloyd doesn't need to step it up your crazy. His celebration penalty set up a the Jaguar drive leading to a field goal... and his fumble could have very well ended the game. Defending someone contributing -6 points on the day just doesn't make sense... it's "Unf-ingbelievable".

Well if Brunell hadn't thrown the pick on the flea-flicker... and if someone would've made a tackle in our secondary all day... and blah blah blah blah blah....

Seriously, I really don't get the calling for Lloyd's head right now. He went to tuck a ball and got it stripped... that shit happens...

That penalty was bogus, as the Jags Leftwitch picked up his reciever in the endzone and put him on his shoulder and DID NOT GET CALLED... (don't know if anyone else noticed that) and the fact that we could not beat ANY AFC team we played last year and we just beat one of the BEST AFC teams and you're bitching about the couple of things that went wrong immediately after the game tells me its time to up the meds...

I just think that there are far worse things that happened in that game than to be calling out Lloyd... Id worry about our D missing fucking tackles... we did give up 30 points!

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by RobH4413

You make me laugh.

If you think Lloyd doesn't need to step it up your crazy. His celebration penalty set up a the Jaguar drive leading to a field goal... and his fumble could have very well ended the game. Defending someone contributing -6 points on the day just doesn't make sense... it's "Unf-ingbelievable".

-6 Haven't seen that stat but when you have a moronic "point", you might as well make up a fictional stat.

Do me a favor. Watch the fourth quarter and watch #85 help them win the game. It doesn't get more simple than that.

[RobH4413]

Originally Posted by Grim21Reaper

-6 Haven't seen that stat but when you have a moronic "point", you might as well make up a fictional stat.

Do me a favor. Watch the fourth quarter and watch #85 help them win the game. It doesn't get more simple than that.

My point was that Brandon Lloyd needs to improve, based on his performance today. A celebration call (while I disagree with the league rule itself, I feel Lloyd knew the rule, and it was a rather "bone-headed" and arguably game changing decision) and a costly fumble is not a good game. If we would have lost, this wouldn't be a debate. I think it's rather brash to discredit my "point" as moronic, but don't really care.

[elamin24]

We should take it easy on Lloyd for a little while. I watched the game again on Tivo and he was playing hard. He was open alot, Brunell didnt get him the ball. I was impressed with the D and O lines. Yeah we gave up thirty points but it would have been worse if it wasnt for the pressure. The D has been better without "big" joe in there. I have never been all that high on him anyway. Give it two weeks you'll be looking for #64 jerseys in the stores.
When you create pressure from the middle it opens up the outside.

[ArtMonkDrillz]

Originally Posted by canthetuna

That penalty was bogus, as the Jags Leftwitch picked up his reciever in the endzone and put him on his shoulder and DID NOT GET CALLED...

I noticed that too.

I seriously think that was one of the worst ref'ed games I've ever seen. The jags had a 4 play TD towards the ened of the game that either tied it or cut our lead to 3, but it shouldn't have been that easy for them because there seriously should have been a delay of game call on the 3rd play. I was sitting there in the stands looking up at the clock ticking, "3, 2, 1, 0..." and I looked down to see the ball still in the center's hands. No flags, big gain, TD on the next pass (it was that one where williams almost got his head knocked off by Taylor but still held on).

The very next possession the same thing almost happened. I was watching the clok a bit more closely, saying out loud, "3, 2, 1, 0, 0!, 0!, 0!," and then the flags finally came out. I honestly think 2 or 3 seconds had passed before the ref whistled the play dead.

I couldn't really see the Lloyd penalty from where I was sitting so I really don't know what to say about that one.

[Hog1]

Can there be any bigger, more productive player deals than the aquisitions of Moss, and Portis. Dudes are totally clutch. Where would be without them? I heard Moss after the game make a statement like "I want to make the catch, I don't understand fallin' down after the catch. I want to run with it"
I also heard the first of the bandwagon jumpers on a postgame show. I think it was Shannon Sharpe saying "they have someting special down there. This team is just beginning to roll" I AGREE

[ArtMonkDrillz]

Originally Posted by Hog1

Can there be any bigger, more productive player deals than the aquisitions of Moss, and Portis. Dudes are totally clutch. Where would be without them? I heard Moss after the game make a statement like "I want to make the catch, I don't understand fallin' down after the catch. I want to run with it"
I also heard the first of the bandwagon jumpers on a postgame show. I think it was Shannon Sharpe saying "they have someting special down there. This team is just beginning to roll" I AGREE

Did you hear Portis's post game comments? He said that early in the game one of the jags defenders said to him that there was no way he'd ge 100 yards and that basically they were going to kick our teeth in.
Portis told Santana what that guy said and the 2 of them decided right there that they were going to demand some respect. i think they did just that.
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