What Is Wrong With The Offense?

CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR · 10-09-2006, 10:59 AM

two words Mark Brunell i watch every team throw the ball down field but the skins it laughable

GhettoDogAllStars · 10-09-2006, 11:19 AM

I think the biggest problem with our offense, and team in general, is that we are a bunch of pussies.

wtf is going on when you can dominate a good team one week, and then totally take a shit the next week (against a lesser team)? I know our guys can do well -- they are just too pussy to do it every week. be professionals, you f'ing bastards and execute EVERY week.

RedskinRat · 10-09-2006, 11:36 AM

Brunell doesn't scare any secondary, not even an inept Giants secondary that was close to league worst.

What does that tell anyone with more than two brain cells to rub together?

mike340 · 10-10-2006, 10:36 AM

It's so refreshing to see someone admit that they need to go to outside sources when they're looking for someone with more than two brain cells. ;-)

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Originally Posted by RedskinRat

Brunell doesn't scare any secondary, not even an inept Giants secondary that was close to league worst.

What does that tell anyone with more than two brain cells to rub together?

RiggoRules · 10-09-2006, 12:13 PM

The Skins only threw deep once the entire game. That is against a highly suspect secondary.

So to me, the question is why not?

Do the coaches know #8 can't be counted on to make those plays any more or does #8 simply not count on himself to make the deep throws?

In an offense that puts on the field at the same time:

Portis
Moss
Cooley
REL
Lloyd

I can't for the life of me understand how no one is getting a mismatch and getting open to make a play.

Our pass protection (which is more than just the OLine) may not be the class of the NFC, but it is good enough to give enough time to make a throw.

So yeah, I think the problems with the O during games 1,2,& 5 have something to do with the play at QB. Even during the record setting performance in HOU, we saw the same lack of push downfield.

dmek25 · 10-09-2006, 12:35 PM

am i the only one that thought that portis ran the ball ok? if we dont trust brunell, why didnt we just load up on portis and run the f**king ball?

illdefined · 10-09-2006, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by dmek25

am i the only one that thought that portis ran the ball ok? if we dont trust brunell, why didnt we just load up on portis and run the f**king ball?

sucks to say, but Pierce. he'd always find a way through our offensive line and get at Portis before he could break any.

JankySpanky80 · 10-09-2006, 12:44 PM

Give the Giants credit they had 2 weeks to prepare for us and they got the job done. Its the curse of the meadowlands. They wanted it more. we really need Springs back so we can be more agressive on D. Maybe by some miracle he'll be back this week. The season isn't doomed yet but don't sleep on the Titans. They are a desperate team that hasn't won a game yet. It would be embarassing if we don't pull that one out. I truly believe if we play like we are capable we can go into indy and beat them and head into the bye week at 4-3 and have 2 weeks to prepare for Dallas. Schedule isn't easy so the skins gotta bring there A game every week.

Twilbert07 · 10-09-2006, 04:39 PM

Did y'all see the news on John Hall? ESPN. com says his job in in jeopardy.

ESPN.com - NFL - Sources: Kicker Hall on thin ice with Redskins

Twilbert07 · 10-09-2006, 05:08 PM

Better yet, Brunell has three times as many losses this season as P. Manning and Brady combined.

mike340 · 10-10-2006, 11:09 AM

Let's see..
The Patriots have allowed 74 points, the Redskins 110.
And who's been on the Colts schedule?
@Giants (OK, not easy as we know)
Texans
Jaguars (21-14)
@Jets (31-28)
Titans (14-13)

Also interesting: the Pats have scored 108, we've scored 96, CP was (mostly) out for 2+ games (including some disappearance this week), and we're learning a new system.

As far as QB rating for the year,
P Manning: 95.6
Brunell: 90.1 (10th in the league)
Brady: 82.6

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Originally Posted by Twilbert07

Better yet, Brunell has three times as many losses this season as P. Manning and Brady combined.

Southpaw · 10-10-2006, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by mike340

Let's see..
The Patriots have allowed 74 points, the Redskins 110.
And who's been on the Colts schedule?
@Giants (OK, not easy as we know)
Texans
Jaguars (21-14)
@Jets (31-28)
Titans (14-13)

Also interesting: the Pats have scored 108, we've scored 96, CP was (mostly) out for 2+ games (including some disappearance this week), and we're learning a new system.

As far as QB rating for the year,
P Manning: 95.6
Brunell: 90.1 (10th in the league)
Brady: 82.6

I guess you're missing my point. Here's some numbers.

Come from behind victories(after being down in the 4th quarter)

Peyton Manning - 26
Tom Brady - 21
Mark Brunell - 18

Mark Brunell has been in the league for five seasons more than Manning, and seven more than Brady. And to top it off, Brunell is statistically the worst quarterback in the league at fourth quarter comebacks since 1996.

FOOTBALL OUTSIDERS: Football analysis and NFL stats for the Moneyball era - Authors of Pro Football Prospectus 2005

Basically, if Washington is down in the fourth quarter, they'll lose 75% of the time with Brunell running the show. And his rating is a bit skewed from the Texans and Jags games. His rating for the three losses were 76.9, 59.8, and 68.2. So keep defending his horribly inconsistent performance. It must be because the hundred million dollar trio of receivers isn't getting open. Or maybe when Portis isn't having an all pro day, Brunell forgets how to stand in the pocket and complete a pass. Either way, Washington is staring 6-10 in the face if the quarterback play doesn't become more consistent.

illdefined · 10-10-2006, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Southpaw

Either way, Washington is staring 6-10 in the face if the quarterback play doesn't become more consistent.

i think Brunell is excruciatingly consistent. consistently conservative.

REMEMBER DALLAS LAST SEASON MARK. there's a time to open it up, and YES, it can be between the hashes especially in the 4th and you're behind.

GTripp0012 · 10-12-2006, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Twilbert07

Better yet, Brunell has three times as many losses this season as P. Manning and Brady combined.

Teams lose games, not players.

Southpaw · 10-12-2006, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Teams lose games, not players.

I disagree. Let's say a team is up, and the quarterback throws a pick that gets returned for a game winning touchdown. All of the blame for the loss will be placed on the quarterback that threw the interception.

And lots of people seemed to use the argument that LaVar Arrington sucked, and "he lost us several games by being out of position". I even heard dumbass Brian Mitchell make comment. Not that I agree with that particular remark, but most people seem to think one person can be blamed for losses.

10-09-2006, 10:59 AM	#1
CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR Impact Rookie Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: va Age: 58 Posts: 890	Re: What Is Wrong With The Offense? two words Mark Brunell i watch every team throw the ball down field but the skins it laughable

10-09-2006, 11:19 AM	#2
GhettoDogAllStars Playmaker Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Denver Age: 43 Posts: 2,762	Re: What Is Wrong With The Offense? I think the biggest problem with our offense, and team in general, is that we are a bunch of pussies. wtf is going on when you can dominate a good team one week, and then totally take a shit the next week (against a lesser team)? I know our guys can do well -- they are just too pussy to do it every week. be professionals, you f'ing bastards and execute EVERY week.

10-09-2006, 11:36 AM	#3
RedskinRat Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: I'm in LA, trick! Posts: 8,700	Re: What Is Wrong With The Offense? Brunell doesn't scare any secondary, not even an inept Giants secondary that was close to league worst. What does that tell anyone with more than two brain cells to rub together?

10-09-2006, 12:13 PM	#5
RiggoRules Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 380	Re: What Is Wrong With The Offense? The Skins only threw deep once the entire game. That is against a highly suspect secondary. So to me, the question is why not? Do the coaches know #8 can't be counted on to make those plays any more or does #8 simply not count on himself to make the deep throws? In an offense that puts on the field at the same time: Portis Moss Cooley REL Lloyd I can't for the life of me understand how no one is getting a mismatch and getting open to make a play. Our pass protection (which is more than just the OLine) may not be the class of the NFC, but it is good enough to give enough time to make a throw. So yeah, I think the problems with the O during games 1,2,& 5 have something to do with the play at QB. Even during the record setting performance in HOU, we saw the same lack of push downfield. __________________ *"Lighten up, Sandy Baby."*

10-09-2006, 12:35 PM	#6
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 63 Posts: 10,672	Re: What Is Wrong With The Offense? am i the only one that thought that portis ran the ball ok? if we dont trust brunell, why didnt we just load up on portis and run the f**king ball? __________________ "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." courtesy of 53fan

10-09-2006, 12:44 PM	#8
JankySpanky80 Special Teams Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 267	Re: What Is Wrong With The Offense? Give the Giants credit they had 2 weeks to prepare for us and they got the job done. Its the curse of the meadowlands. They wanted it more. we really need Springs back so we can be more agressive on D. Maybe by some miracle he'll be back this week. The season isn't doomed yet but don't sleep on the Titans. They are a desperate team that hasn't won a game yet. It would be embarassing if we don't pull that one out. I truly believe if we play like we are capable we can go into indy and beat them and head into the bye week at 4-3 and have 2 weeks to prepare for Dallas. Schedule isn't easy so the skins gotta bring there A game every week. __________________ JANK-e SPANK-e

10-09-2006, 04:39 PM	#9
Twilbert07 Impact Rookie Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Atlanta, GA Age: 60 Posts: 594	Re: What Is Wrong With The Offense? Did y'all see the news on John Hall? ESPN. com says his job in in jeopardy. ESPN.com - NFL - Sources: Kicker Hall on thin ice with Redskins __________________ a Skins fan every day, every way.

10-09-2006, 05:08 PM	#10
Twilbert07 Impact Rookie Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Atlanta, GA Age: 60 Posts: 594	Re: What Is Wrong With The Offense? Better yet, Brunell has three times as many losses this season as P. Manning and Brady combined. __________________ a Skins fan every day, every way.

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